THE BOMBERS' SWISS ADVENTURE

[Cards13 9,117]

Wilson comes out swinging on Dank.

"Bring it on."

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-34-empty-threats-a-losing-game-for-stephen-dank-20160315-gnjmoq.html

[sue 9,106]

3 hours ago, jnrmac said:

And so what if he did? Aside from the fact it gave them time to shred evidence and remove data it wasn't the AFL that conducted an injecting regime bordering on 50,000 injections of dubious drugs not approved for human consumption.

I still cannot fathom why Hird would try to drop Demetriou in it for warning Essendrug and giving them a chance to start the shredder.

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

2 minutes ago, sue said:

I still cannot fathom why Hird would try to drop Demetriou in it for warning Essendrug and giving them a chance to start the shredder.

Logic has no place in the mind of James Hird.

[Lucifers Hero 39,805]

4 minutes ago, sue said:

I still cannot fathom why Hird would try to drop Demetriou in it for warning Essendrug and giving them a chance to start the shredder.

Hird dropped Andy in it only after he learnt that he was to be the fall guy.  If I recall correctly the 'deal' Andy and David Evans had concocted was along the lines of the players get let down gently and get a wrap over the knuckles but Hird goes down! 

As soon as Hird learnt that he went for the jugular and started throwing everyone under the bus.  Having dispensed with David Evans, a life long family friend, going for Andy seemed small fry. 

[sue 9,106]

4 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Hird dropped Andy in it only after he learnt that he was to be the fall guy.  If I recall correctly the 'deal' Andy and David Evans had concocted was along the lines of the players get let down gently and get a wrap over the knuckles but Hird goes down! 

As soon as Hird learnt that he went for the jugular and started throwing everyone under the bus.  Having dispensed with David Evans, a life long family friend, going for Andy seemed small fry. 

That makes sense.  I then wonder why Demetriou hasn't been charged with something since it seems pretty clear. I dimly recall his defence was that he didn't tell EFC it was specifically them that was in trouble. But since he doesn't seemed to have issued a general warning to other clubs, that effectively means he told EFC that it was them being investigated.

[Sir Why You Little 37,036]

21 minutes ago, sue said:

I still cannot fathom why Hird would try to drop Demetriou in it for warning Essendrug and giving them a chance to start the shredder.

Exactly. Essendon should be licking Vlad's boots. 

Just imagine the carnage if ASADA had walked in cold unannounced!

such a shame. 

Why i despise Demetriou so much...

[Lucifers Hero 39,805]

1 minute ago, sue said:

That makes sense.  I then wonder why Demetriou hasn't been charged with something since it seems pretty clear. I dimly recall his defence was that he didn't tell EFC it was specifically them that was in trouble. But since he doesn't seemed to have issued a general warning to other clubs, that effectively means he told EFC that it was them being investigated.

My recollection is that after the ACC briefed the AFL (in feb 2013) Andy rang clubs (not sure if it was all 18).  The media pack had already gathered (euphemistically) and were baying at EFC's door ready to publish about peptides.  So, I believe it was common knowledge in media circles.  After Hird accused Andy D, the ACC (or someone) investigated and found that Andy D had not broken the law ie had not leaked to EFC via David Evans.  But as I said everyone else seemed to know so hard to pin it on Andy D.

[Dees2014 2,377]

1 hour ago, sue said:

I still cannot fathom why Hird would try to drop Demetriou in it for warning Essendrug and giving them a chance to start the shredder.

"Four Corners" next week could be interesting. According to the ABC promotion, it is "a rare insiders view of the greatest scandal in Australian sport". Wonder if our Tracy is the source again? If she is, it will be the lowest ebb in the very distinguished history of Four Corners. Let's hope they are not so stupid.

Edited March 16, 2016 by Dees2014

[ManDee 7,148]

1 hour ago, sue said:

That makes sense.  I then wonder why Demetriou hasn't been charged with something since it seems pretty clear. I dimly recall his defence was that he didn't tell EFC it was specifically them that was in trouble. But since he doesn't seemed to have issued a general warning to other clubs, that effectively means he told EFC that it was them being investigated.

Sue, the reason AD was not charged was that he had not been told which club was under suspicion by the ACC?  I have no doubt that AD knew which club and he most likely did warn the EFC.

I would think the warning would have been along the lines of:- All [censored] is about to blow up, an AFL club is about to be busted very soon. I hope it is not you guys because they have plenty of damning evidence. Any how have I nice day David we'll talk soon. 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,755]

54 minutes ago, Dees2014 said:

"Four Corners" next week could be interesting. According to the ABC promotion, it is "a rare insiders view of the greatest scandal in Australian sport". Wonder if our Tracy is the source again? If she is, it will be the lowest ebb in the very distinguished history of Four Corners. Let's hope they are not so stupid.

Do we know it's definitely about the Essendon saga? Without being flippant, is there any other great scandal in Australian sport that it could be, such as cobalt and racing (Peter Moody won the major part of his appeal today, by the way), the dollars spent trying to secure the 2022 World Cup or (tenuous link alert) Tabcorp allegedly making corrupt payments to get a sports betting licence in Cambodia? 

[old dee 23,791]

29 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Do we know it's definitely about the Essendon saga? Without being flippant, is there any other great scandal in Australian sport that it could be, such as cobalt and racing (Peter Moody won the major part of his appeal today, by the way), the dollars spent trying to secure the 2022 World Cup or (tenuous link alert) Tabcorp allegedly making corrupt payments to get a sports betting licence in Cambodia? 

That is quite a list LDC.

Where there is big money there will be corruption and you put the house on that one.

[Dees2014 2,377]

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Do we know it's definitely about the Essendon saga? Without being flippant, is there any other great scandal in Australian sport that it could be, such as cobalt and racing (Peter Moody won the major part of his appeal today, by the way), the dollars spent trying to secure the 2022 World Cup or (tenuous link alert) Tabcorp allegedly making corrupt payments to get a sports betting licence in Cambodia? 

Yes, it was definitely stated (words to the effect): "tune in next week for the inside story of the greatest scandal in Australian spirt - Essendon Bombers" 

on the ABC, that can only be our Tracy, unless saner lights like Gerard Whateley over rule her power as executive sports producer on ABC news and current affairs. I fear the worst...

[M_9 2,082]

An interesting post by Muggs on BF relating some of Big Fries article in today's Oz about Danks' lawsuit:

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/steven-dank-case-cronulla-players-told-to-conceal-program.1126127/

[jnrmac 20,065]

8 hours ago, sue said:

That makes sense.  I then wonder why Demetriou hasn't been charged with something since it seems pretty clear. I dimly recall his defence was that he didn't tell EFC it was specifically them that was in trouble. But since he doesn't seemed to have issued a general warning to other clubs, that effectively means he told EFC that it was them being investigated.

Andy D claims he wasn't told it was the EFC. Anyone around the AFL knew because they had Dank. Gerard Healy had told the AFL Dank was giving them peptides so AD clearly went to Evans and said ' you had better fess up'. Hird was to be the fall guy and Tarnia wasn't happy.

[Lucifers Hero 39,805]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-2016-essendon-chairman-lindsay-tanner-urges-faithful-to-look-ahead-20160316-gnkqad.html

Lindsay Tanner says:  '...Worsfold was driving a new culture of professionalism and elite standards and was firmly behind the club's vision of becoming the "most respected, inclusive and successful club in Australian sport"...'  Delusional!  They should get out of the hangar and see what other Australian sports think of them.

Respected?  Never!

Will forever be a leper club.

[biggestred 5,088]

They may win stuff again. But they will ALWAYS be drug cheats. 

[beelzebub 23,376]

Of course Tanner's going to come out with crap like that... He made it his specialty whilst in Politics to utter the impossible as though it would happen.

Tanner is just preaching to his choir. Essendon is and will be for some time to come...an irrelevance on the playing ground

[M_9 2,082]

This week [next Mon] Four Corners takes you inside one former Essendon player's battle to find out just what was in the supplements he was directed to take.

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2016/03/17/4426753.htm

Edited March 17, 2016 by M_9

[daisycutter 29,616]

On 16/03/2016 at 5:03 PM, Dees2014 said:

Yes, it was definitely stated (words to the effect): "tune in next week for the inside story of the greatest scandal in Australian spirt - Essendon Bombers" 

on the ABC, that can only be our Tracy, unless saner lights like Gerard Whateley over rule her power as executive sports producer on ABC news and current affairs. I fear the worst...

so, thankfully it's not our tracy

Whatever it Takes, reported by Quentin McDermott and presented by Sarah Ferguson, goes to air on Monday 21st March at 8.30pm EDT. 

[biggestred 5,088]

Hahahaha its about Hal Hunter!!!

Yes!!! Go Hal!

[Willmoy1947 4,088]

On ‎15‎/‎03‎/‎2016 at 6:56 AM, Ted Fidge said:

Do you have a crystal ball, SWYL? Watch 4 Corners on Monday and you might see some more about this.

Not stupid. Calculated. This Hunter case is a practice run for EFC. They're showing the 34 what they'll be up against if/when they decide to come after them.

Clearly, they've put Hunter on the Chinese water torture to see if he can last the distance. The idea is that he will drop the case or settle (with a "no blabbing" clause). However it relies on operating in the shadows. Publicity is not good as it reflects so poorly on them.

The latest release of documents might be related to the 4 Corners thing.

Wonder if the AFL gets roped in as well, not as if they are not already

[Dees2014 2,377]

25 minutes ago, willmoy said:

Wonder if the AFL gets roped in as well, not as if they are not already

Can't see how they could be left out. Likewise ASADA, WADA and CAS. Should be interesting. Blow the whole scandal apart I suspect. It is such fertile ground as there are still so many unanswered questions which the guilty parties never want answered.

Edited March 17, 2016 by Dees2014

[hemingway 7,627]

On 13 February 2016 at 7:33 PM, daisycutter said:

On 15 February 2016 at 0:57 PM, beelzebub said:

 

 

11 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Of course Tanner's going to come out with crap like that... He made it his specialty whilst in Politics to utter the impossible as though it would happen.

Tanner is just preaching to his choir. Essendon is and will be for some time to come...an irrelevance on the playing ground

Lindsay Tanner's machiavellian behaviour as a politician will not be an asset to the EFC,  Coming from the union movement he was essentially a numbers man, part of the labour/ALP machine, who was an effective political operator but lacked creativity and vision. I always thought that he looked like and acted like an undertaker. Perhaps an appropriate role given the diseased state that this once great football club is in. Ernest Lindsay will not provide the inspiration, vision or leadership that the EFC needs at this time. He reminds me of the old trade union leader that has not understood the changes that have occurred in society and the workforce and is pedalling the same old message not realising that the message is out of date and falling on deaf ears. I would think that many must be horrified by his leadership. His statements suggest that he is yesterday's man and not the person to lead his club to the new beginning that the club needs to recover from its terminal condition.

[beelzebub 23,376]

Well might Tanner be a yesterday man for he represents a club that today still has not really apologised for its transgressions and so can move onto tomorrow. It's still stuck in yesterday's mess.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,755]

9 hours ago, Dees2014 said:

Can't see how they could be left out. Likewise ASADA, WADA and CAS. Should be interesting. Blow the whole scandal apart I suspect. It is such fertile ground as there are still so many unanswered questions which the guilty parties never want answered.

Maybe. But if it's primarily about Hal Hunter, the story could just be focused on his personal battle with the respective roles of ASADA, WADA and CAS peripheral to the story. And if they try to interview Dank, keep your eye out for him being on his phone. It seems to be his "go to" strategy whenever he leaves a courtroom, I assume to avoid having to make any comments. I seriously doubt there is anyone on the other end.