Training - Monday, 4th January, 2016

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,396]

1 hour ago, The Song Formerly Known As said:

 

Yes, but can he take a mark yet? Once he does that, then i'll agree that he, "looks amazing."

He's only on 500k what else do you want from him?

[Demi Dee 578]

1 minute ago, Matt Demon said:

Sure

Wideman - Looks to be a smooth mover with good hands. I'm still trying decide if he'll be physically ready for senior footy. He's got a big frame & looks strong already through his core but lacks upper body strength. He doesn't look out of place.

Hulett - I'm going out on limb here, this guy can play. I can see him playing the lead up forward working up and down the ground. He impressed me today with speed, size & attack on the ball.  I also work with a guy who was involved with his junior club and says he's a freak who's been incredibly unlucky with injury.

King - Not sure yet, obviously big ruckman take time.

I'm also finding it difficult to place Weiderman. I watched he and Hullet, toward the end of lasts years training sessions, take marks and line up for goal, behind a 'faux-men on the mark.' Thought Weiderman looked good, but, might be a little out of his depth. Who knows after a strong pre-season  

Hullet took me by surprise. He looked ready physically and was focused. His hands were solid and he was confident in front of goal. The inside word on his injuries and his ability has pricked my interest. Look forward to tracking his progress. 

Thanks for the reports. 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

1 hour ago, drdrake said:

Ive seen a couple of preseason pictures and on the Herald sun site today, are we going back to royal blue instead of navy

It wouldn't be deliberate, simply New Balance not getting the exact same blue. Don't read too much into it.

Fabric colours can be difficult even for big companies.

[bandicoot 1,395]

52 minutes ago, Matt Demon said:

Sure

Weideman - Looks to be a smooth mover with good hands. I'm still trying decide if he'll be physically ready for senior footy. He's got a big frame & looks strong already through his core but lacks upper body strength. He doesn't look out of place.

Hulett - I'm going out on limb here, this guy can play. I can see him playing the lead up forward working up and down the ground. He impressed me today with speed, size & attack on the ball.  I also work with a guy who was involved with his junior club and says he's a freak who's been incredibly unlucky with injury.

King - Not sure yet, obviously big ruckman take time.

I also think Hulett will be the surprise packet of the draft. He is solid enough to compete at AFL level. His fitness will need to be worked on however it can be done. Vanders is a good example of this.

[Guest]

Roos:  "Alright lads, break up into pairs for marking drills. Liam, you get Oscar. Kingy, you get Frosty. Mitchy, you get Joel. That leaves Weids and Jesse" 

Weideman: "Roosy pls"

Roos: 

 

 

Poor kid. 

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6 minutes ago, Scythe said:

Roos:  "Alright lads, break up into pairs for marking drills. Liam - you get Oscar; Kingy - you get Frosty; Mitchy - you get Joel. That leaves Weids and Jesse" 

Weideman: "Roosy pls"

Roos: 

 

 

Poor kid. 

Its like Kick to kick when dad comes down your end!

[Sheppresent 17]

What a great way to learn....! 

[dazzledavey36 54,955]

Poor Sam... lol but no one better to learn then Jesse who is one of the best contested marks in the AFL.

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,200]

I reckon he protects the ball drop zone better than any current player aside from maybe Jack Riewoldt. 

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Has Jesse signed a 30 year deal yet?

[Ted Lasso 19,520]

I watched young Sam destroy the Northern Blues last year, reminded me a bit of Jesse actually, if he can stay fit those two will be a very dangerous combo

[Coup Cooper 610]

3 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

He's only on 500k what else do you want from him?

I'd say 40 goals would be nice?

[DeeSpencer 25,719]

Wayne nailed most of what I saw live. 

Petracca and Trengove might have an extra week off due to doing more training before the break. Lumumba and Newton presumably training inside.

Frost, Dawes, Jetta, Spencer in one rehab group. 

Half our midfield - Vanders, Tyson, Brayshaw, Vince in another. I reckon Tyson must be close to getting back in full training, he's powering along.

The runs at the end of training are interesting. 4 different groups doing 200m's based on ability then after a few of them they go in to sprints. What I found interesting is that some of the better endurance runners aren't in the top couple of sprint groups and vice versa. For instance Jayden Hunt kills them in the sprints but is in the bottom endurace group, same with Garland who's low down in the endurance but in a higher group for the sprints.

Positives from today:

- Jesse looking fit and happier

- Jack Watts' running and voice

- Nath Jones heavily involved

- Weideman's hands

- Jack Viney effortlessly tackling people in clearance drills just by being near them

- Overall skill level by foot

Still think there's room for improvement with the voice and energy and I think getting out of trouble/working through traffic has a way to go as well. 

Edited January 4, 2016 by Georgiou R.R. Martin

[Tough Kent 2,137]

I watched training for 1.5 hours this arvo.

-Trenners and Petracca were inside on the bikes. No Heritier or Newton and Pedo came out mid-session and walked laps.

-Bernie, Tyson, Gus, AVB, Neville, Spencil, Dawes and Frost made up the re-hab group who did a shite load of running. They did mostly repeat 80 meter sprints on the opposite oval and then timed efforts around where the players trained. Dawes looked super fit and outran Neville and Spencer. Frost did a lot less than the rest but didn't look too resticted. AVB was the standout in this group.

-Most drills focused on how the coaches want the team to play. E.g. where to stand at stoppages, how to defend when the opposition have the ball inside our 50, ball movement. Drills were stopped if coaches were unhappy with how they went or players were unsure about how to set up. The kids like Liam H and Weideman seemed to be the main infringes here, which makes sense.

-Intensity was very good. Everything was done at 100%.

-Dean Kent was the stand out in the session with his hard running, tackling and his voice the features.

[Gorgoroth 12,963]

Thanks for the info guys.

i wasn't sold on Kent two years ago, but we really missed him last year after he got injured.

i truly hope he can put a full season together this year.

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

59 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Thanks for the info guys.

i wasn't sold on Kent two years ago, but we really missed him last year after he got injured.

i truly hope he can put a full season together this year.

Me too. I think he's got an x-factor that we desperately missed last season. His pace and hardness are both very good.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,811]

9 hours ago, Georgiou R.R. Martin said:

Wayne nailed most of what I saw live. 

Petracca and Trengove might have an extra week off due to doing more training before the break. Lumumba and Newton presumably training inside.

Frost, Dawes, Jetta, Spencer in one rehab group. 

Half our midfield - Vanders, Tyson, Brayshaw, Vince in another. I reckon Tyson must be close to getting back in full training, he's powering along.

The runs at the end of training are interesting. 4 different groups doing 200m's based on ability then after a few of them they go in to sprints. What I found interesting is that some of the better endurance runners aren't in the top couple of sprint groups and vice versa. For instance Jayden Hunt kills them in the sprints but is in the bottom endurace group, same with Garland who's low down in the endurance but in a higher group for the sprints.

Positives from today:

- Jesse looking fit and happier

- Jack Watts' running and voice

- Nath Jones heavily involved

- Weideman's hands

- Jack Viney effortlessly tackling people in clearance drills just by being near them

- Overall skill level by foot

Still think there's room for improvement with the voice and energy and I think getting out of trouble/working through traffic has a way to go as well. 

is there anything in the ASADA code which stops us from taking Weideman's hands and putting them on Chris Dawes' arms?

[DubDee 25,902]

17 hours ago, old dee said:

Not sure how injuries to his legs effects his hands when he goes for marks DD.

he is a support player who we may get a dozen games from in 2016.

if he is around in 2017 it should be at a very much reduced salary.

IMO he is not the future that will see us playing finals football.

he is never going to have great hands and he didnt at the pies when he won a premiership medal

his injuries stop him from getting to enough contests, from pressuring, making space from his man on a lead etc

[AzzKikA 2,371]

Nice info, thanks peoples.

 

[Tough Kent 2,137]

3km Time Trial results from Princess Park this morning:

1st - Tom McDonald 
2nd - Jack Grimes 
3rd - Nathan Jones

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

13 minutes ago, Tough Kent said:

3km Time Trial results from Princess Park this morning:

1st - Tom McDonald 
2nd - Jack Grimes 
3rd - Nathan Jones

how many pbs? that'll be the interesting part.

[monoccular 17,432]

Any signs of Jack Trengove?

[Guest]

52 minutes ago, Tough Kent said:

3km Time Trial results from Princess Park this morning:

1st - Tom McDonald 
2nd - Jack Grimes 
3rd - Nathan Jones

So he only returned to running four weeks ago post neck surgery and he finished top three? 

What a man.

Edited January 5, 2016 by Scythe

[Jaded No More 68,965]

2 minutes ago, Scythe said:

So he only returned to running four weeks ago post neck surgery and he finishes top three? 

What a man.

Not a man. A legend.

 

Tom McDonald taking out the trials is a shock. Not.
Wonder how Oscar did.

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,200]

Can someone remind me whether Grimes has performed this well in trials previous years? Like others its more about PBs for me and how many did not participate.