Should Demonland embrace the Women's Game?

[picket fence 17,169]

I feel about tayla harris the same way as my missus felt about colin sylvia when he played for us ❤

Yep

[RalphiusMaximus 6,053]

I love watching the women's game. Had to miss this year because of work which sucked. Anything we can do to back and promote them is worth the effort.

Further to the above. Is there a poster available of that magnificent shot of Tayla Harris kicking? There should be. And, I'd pay for an autographed one.

Maybe we need to follow in the footsteps of the Matildas and do up a calendar for fundraising? Put that shot on the cover.

Edit: Probably should throw in that I'm not advocating they strip off for it like the Matildas did, just that a calendar would be pretty cool.

Edited August 20, 2015 by RalphiusMaximus

[monoccular 17,428]

At the risk of accusations of being misogynistic or sexist if you prefer, footy is a man's game and women's footy does nothing for me. Nor does women's wrestling or boxing (nor male boxing for that matter). Nor women as front line military. Just as men's netball doesn't.

Edited August 20, 2015 by monoccular

[bjDee 1,249]

At the risk of accusations of being misogynistic or sexist if you prefer, footy is a man's game and women's footy does nothing for me. Nor does women's wrestling or boxing (nor male boxing for that matter). Nor women as front line military. Just as men's netball doesn't.

No-one is saying you have to like it Mono, but these girls are showing that footy is well and truly not just a man's game.

And the appearance just now on the footy show reaffirms my first impressions of the character of these players from a couple of weeks ago, as per earlier post.

Edited August 20, 2015 by bjDee

[daisycutter 29,616]

No-one is saying you have to like it Mono, but these girls are showing that footy is well and truly not just a man's game.

And the appearance just now on the footy show reaffirms my first impressions of the character of these players from a couple of weeks ago, as per earlier post.

you watch the footy show?

[bjDee 1,249]

Knew that would bring a response from someone. Thanks DC.

And the answer is no, but it was lunch at the cricket and when channel surfing the Dees game was being reviewed at the time, followed by the women's game review. So kind of guilty as charged.

[daisycutter 29,616]

Knew that would bring a response from someone. Thanks DC.

And the answer is no, but it was lunch at the cricket and when channel surfing the Dees game was being reviewed at the time, followed by the women's game review. So kind of guilty as charged.

in that case, you are pardoned

p.s. between you and me, did the same myself

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

The womens side is the best thing MFC has going for us atm.

The way they played--attack, risk taking, bravery, etc. is everything we don't do. Good on the girls for showing the MFC boys how it's done.

[biggestred 5,088]

Sam newman was an absolute [censored] (far beyond normal) during the section with the two women on.

[bjDee 1,249]

Lets see if fekking toolwit gets past the censor.

[Nasher 33,616]

At the risk of accusations of being misogynistic or sexist if you prefer, footy is a man's game and women's footy does nothing for me. Nor does women's wrestling or boxing (nor male boxing for that matter). Nor women as front line military. Just as men's netball doesn't.

The only reason you'd be accused of being misogynistic or sexist base on that comment is because it is clearly both.

[Nasher 33,616]

I tore a hamstring just looking at that kicking action. Wow.

[FireOath 290]

you watch the footy show?

That head clash was pretty gnarly. Can't believe Daisy pulled up alright. The other girl didn't.

[Little Goffy 14,543]

At the risk of accusations of being misogynistic or sexist if you prefer, footy is a man's game and women's footy does nothing for me. Nor does women's wrestling or boxing (nor male boxing for that matter). Nor women as front line military. Just as men's netball doesn't.

It is always a bit odd to see this kind of thing in writing, presumably written sincerely.

"At the risk of being called misogynistic or sexist"... it is as if you don't understand yet that to say 'some things are for men only and some things are for women only', against all evidence to the contrary, is the very definition of sexist.

Benefit of the doubt, I'll assume you aren't misogynistic. That you don't hate women, it is just that you only like them when they are sitting neatly in the box you have allocated to them.

Personally, I'll take Daisy Pearce's opinion on women in football over yours.

[daisycutter 29,616]

It is always a bit odd to see this kind of thing in writing, presumably written sincerely.

"At the risk of being called misogynistic or sexist"... it is as if you don't understand yet that to say 'some things are for men only and some things are for women only', against all evidence to the contrary, is the very definition of sexist.

Benefit of the doubt, I'll assume you aren't misogynistic. That you don't hate women, it is just that you only like them when they are sitting neatly in the box you have allocated to them.

Personally, I'll take Daisy Pearce's opinion on women in football over yours.

bit tough there, goffy

i don't agree with mono, but i admire his honesty

it's also fair to acknowledge he is talking about his thoughts and not any actions

no need for the thought police or a lecture. tolerance works both ways

[ducking]

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,754]

Can anyone fill me in on the back story? In particular,

1. Why are Melbourne and the Bulldogs the clubs with women's teams? Why not the wealthier teams like Hawthorn or Collingwood?
2. Is having a women's competition something that the MFC and perhaps the Bulldogs thought of and pursued on their own?
3. Is the Melbourne women's teams formally part of the MFC?

Whoever is responsible for it needs to be commended. And Demonand should absolutely get on board.

[Little Goffy 14,543]

bit tough there, goffy

i don't agree with mono, but i admire his honesty

it's also fair to acknowledge he is talking about his thoughts and not any actions

no need for the thought police or a lecture. tolerance works both ways

[ducking]

Don't worry Daisycutter, I have plenty of tolerance for monoccular being sexist!

I mean, its not like I am saying "football forum posts are only for non-sexist people, and frontline military service is only for curly-haired people with small knees".

I likely would have just rolled my eyes and walked on except for the 'I'll probably be accused of being sexist' preamble. If someone is sexist, they need to accept that and not preemptively imply it is unreasonable (dare I say, 'overreacting', 'shrill' etc) for people to say they are sexist.

[daisycutter 29,616]

Don't worry Daisycutter, I have plenty of tolerance for monoccular being sexist!

I mean, its not like I am saying "football forum posts are only for non-sexist people, and frontline military service is only for curly-haired people with small knees".

I likely would have just rolled my eyes and walked on except for the 'I'll probably be accused of being sexist' preamble. If someone is sexist, they need to accept that and not preemptively imply it is unreasonable (dare I say, 'overreacting', 'shrill' etc) for people to say they are sexist.

yeah, it always helps when you label someone for their thoughts

the problem with such simplistic labels is they convey no depth or breadth to the descriptor

they are just intellectually lazy

[Little Goffy 14,543]

Can anyone fill me in on the back story? In particular,

1. Why are Melbourne and the Bulldogs the clubs with women's teams? Why not the wealthier teams like Hawthorn or Collingwood?
2. Is having a women's competition something that the MFC and perhaps the Bulldogs thought of and pursued on their own?
3. Is the Melbourne women's teams formally part of the MFC?

Whoever is responsible for it needs to be commended. And Demonand should absolutely get on board.

Both Melbourne and the Bulldogs have been blessed to have some seriously capable and driven women in their administration and boards, and they have played a key part in pointing out how it is actually a total no-brainer to invest in developing the playing side of women's participation in football.

Think of the simple return on investment maths. The women's exhibition game curtain-raiser, including all of the planning, training, and so on, cost less than one star player to run, and outrated one of the 'main' AFL games.

All that was needed was a voice prepared to say that confidently and firmly until it sank in, and we were lucky enough to be one of the first clubs with that voice.

[Fork 'em 6,983]

Skillful, tough and fast.
No beg pardons.
I loved it.

Edited August 21, 2015 by Fork 'em

[RalphiusMaximus 6,053]

Can anyone fill me in on the back story? In particular,

1. Why are Melbourne and the Bulldogs the clubs with women's teams? Why not the wealthier teams like Hawthorn or Collingwood?
2. Is having a women's competition something that the MFC and perhaps the Bulldogs thought of and pursued on their own?
3. Is the Melbourne women's teams formally part of the MFC?

Whoever is responsible for it needs to be commended. And Demonand should absolutely get on board.

Melbourne and the Doggies were both heavily involved in the women's amateur competitions. I don't know if the clubs approached the AFL with the idea or if they simply volunteered when the AFL floated it. I suspect the former. As Little Goffy said, both have a significant female presence in the club administration as well which helped.

I seem to recall also that the AFL has raised the idea of a professional women's league, with these games seen as laying groundwork and market testing. Having just thought to look again, I found THIS in the Age.

As for point 3, the players are all contracted as part of the MFC/Bulldogs. Obviously they don't earn that much, but they have full access to the training facilities, league medical coverage etc. The last three years we have had a draft to fill the squads. Each club is able to name a certain number of players to keep in their squad and the rest have to nominate again for the draft.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Rarely post...so apologies if this is covered elsewhere.

The Demons, with the Dogs, are leading the field in promoting the status of women in the game

The Women's match on Sunday was fantastic and out-rated the Essendon- Adelaide game, seriously !!!

Google Tayla Harris AFL images and you will see some of the most 'balletic' and beautiful and emblematic AFL images you've ever seen

AFL as ballet. AFL as art. And skill and courage.

We need to back the Women's game.

At least invite the Women's team onto Demonland somehow?

Onto the banner perhaps??

This is something the club is doing well... Lets support it

Thoughts??

PS

We will whip Carlton and Hogan will kick 6

embrace the womens game, sure! I'd like to play with them !!! :cool:

[RalphiusMaximus 6,053]

Just watching the replay. Antonio is the HBF we've been crying out for in the Men's side. Fast, decent kick, very good mark. Daisy Pearce is looking pretty damn impressive too.

[Lucifers Hero 39,796]

The AFL launches its Women's Academy: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-victoria-launches-female-academy-20151108-gktqhx.html

The 2016 game as a curtain raiser is likely to be our home game vs the Bulldogs but they seem to have a problem with that.

If it is vs the Bulldogs it will be on Sun May 15 and aired on Ch7. It should get a good crowd and a good TV audience! It could become a mini 'blockbuster' for us...good for revenue! Maybe the Bulldogs want to build it as their mini 'blockbuster' but in my biased opinion, mfc has a stronger case to have it as our 'home' game: MFC has long been a supporter of women's football and women's health (ie the 'pink' games which the Bulldogs played in but we were the drivers). It also gives the women a chance to play on the MCG. ...hmm, maybe we alternate venue/home game...

Wishing all the women well at the academy and look forward to more good games.

Our captain, Daisy Pearce is a terrific role model, on and off the field and in how she plays the game.

Looking forward to more success from the her Demon's team!

Edited November 8, 2015 by Lucifer's Hero

[Goodvibes 3,596]

The AFL launches its Women's Academy: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-victoria-launches-female-academy-20151108-gktqhx.html

The 2016 game as a curtain raiser is likely to be our home game vs the Bulldogs but they seem to have a problem with that.

If it is vs the Bulldogs it will be on Sun May 15 and aired on Ch7. It should get a good crowd and a good TV audience! It could become a mini 'blockbuster' for us. Maybe the Bulldogs want to build it as their mini 'blockbuster' but in my biased opinion, mfc has a stronger case to have it as our 'home' game: MFC has long been a supporter of women's football and women's health (ie the 'pink' games which the Bulldogs played in but we were the drivers). It also gives the women a chance to play on the MCG. ...hmm, maybe we alternate venue/home game...

Wishing all the women well at the academy and look forward to more good games. Our captain, Daisy Pearce is a terrific role model in how she plays the game and look forward to more success from the her Demon's team!

It will be the last exhibition game. National competition in 2017. The real question is whether Melbourne will be one of the Victorian teams to have a license. There's been no public word as yet but plenty of rumblings that Brisbane, West Coast and Adelaide will all have the first license opportunities in their respective states.