Morton or Toumpas

[dazzledavey36 49,394]

Drafting is a raffle?? Give me a break!! If so Hawthorn have won the raffle every bloody time ! Have never bottomed out and won a truckload of flags!!

Nup apart from few exceptions we have been absolutely Shizenhuisen in our draft strategy and Choices made! Period!

Mitch Thorp, Beau Dowler, Beau Muston, Xavier Ellis just to name a few

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

yup, we really nailed it with this batch:

[Henrietta Lumbago 331]

yup, we really nailed it with this batch:

Who's down the end?

[Go the Biff 3,211]

Who's down the end?

Tom MacNamara

[Mono 454]

Can't be bothered reading all the posts.....

IMO Toumpas has never looked like he belongs at AFL....despite some nice touches.

He was very highly rated...drafting isn't easy, see the Hawthorn shanks above.

Luke Parker was mentioned by someone who was easy to identify.....he went #40 in 2010 draft.

As I said, it aint easy.

[nutbean 8,837]

Mitch Thorp, Beau Dowler, Beau Muston, Xavier Ellis just to name a few

thanks DD and I also a believer that if you put a footballer into a poor environment it is not going to help their cause.

I also keep referring back to the Gunston initiation - 2 years behind Roughie and Franklin as the third tall - taking the 3rd best defender from the opposition.

Which forward from our team takes the oppositions best defender ? A 6 gamer in Jesse Hogan.

[nutbean 8,837]

Mitch Thorp, Beau Dowler, Beau Muston, Xavier Ellis just to name a few

2010 - hallahan, litherland ( they did pick up a late gem in Puopolo)

2009 - Grimley, Williams, Hooper ( again two late pick ups in Duryea and Stratton)

2008 - Schoenmakers !, Lisle, Lowden, Savage

2007 - they nailed 2007

2006 - thorp, morton ( yeah - they took one of those as well !), Moss

Plenty of misses.....

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,583]

yup, we really nailed it with this batch:

Every time I look at that picture I want to find Schwab and Prendergast and shoot them.

[KingDingAling 3,623]

Can't be bothered reading all the posts.....

IMO Toumpas has never looked like he belongs at AFL....despite some nice touches.

He was very highly rated...drafting isn't easy, see the Hawthorn shanks above.

Luke Parker was mentioned by someone who was easy to identify.....he went #40 in 2010 draft.

As I said, it aint easy.

Luke Parker..

DOMINANT junior at every level.

Smashed the TAC cup.

Captioned Metro.

Displayed a great work rate, physicality, ability to win contested football, good skills.

Ran 15 plus beep tests and displayed superior endurance.

In the case of Parker, IMO sometimes we overlook players who do things consistently well.

There is nothing flashy about Parker, he gets the job done, that is what he does.

This was just a case of recruiters outsmarting themselves, I think the majority would look back and shake their head.

The herd mentality amongst recruiters is also strong, they are only human after all.

Edited May 19, 2015 by KingDingAling

[daisycutter 28,700]

2010 - hallahan, litherland ( they did pick up a late gem in Puopolo)

2009 - Grimley, Williams, Hooper ( again two late pick ups in Duryea and Stratton)

2008 - Schoenmakers !, Lisle, Lowden, Savage

2007 - they nailed 2007

2006 - thorp, morton ( yeah - they took one of those as well !), Moss

Plenty of misses.....

more interesting to look at their success in trading in top players from other clubs

[Coq au vin 754]

more interesting to look at their success in trading in top players from other clubs

Yes that's the key. Draft is hit and miss. They're too young and unproven at the highest level.

[nutbean 8,837]

more interesting to look at their success in trading in top players from other clubs

Where would you rather spend your time - Port Douglas or Mt Druitt - Hawthorn have the luxury of being a destination of choice when it comes to trading in players from other clubs.

[nutbean 8,837]

Luke Parker..

DOMINANT junior at every level.

Smashed the TAC cup.

Captioned Metro.

Displayed a great work rate, physicality, ability to win contested football, good skills.

Ran 15 plus beep tests and displayed superior endurance.

In the case of Parker, IMO sometimes we overlook players who do things consistently well.

There is nothing flashy about Parker, he gets the job done, that is what he does.

This was just a case of recruiters outsmarting themselves, I think the majority would look back and shake their head.

The herd mentality amongst recruiters is also strong, they are only human after all.

I agree with this but would add that you are dealing with very limited data on immature 18 year olds.

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,187]

yup, we really nailed it with this batch:

If it makes you feel any better Jarrad Grant went one pick after Morton and Robbie Tarrant one pick after Grimes.

Some big busts in that first round.

[daisycutter 28,700]

Where would you rather spend your time - Port Douglas or Mt Druitt - Hawthorn have the luxury of being a destination of choice when it comes to trading in players from other clubs.

maybe, but it is still probably the key to their ongoing success and they have probably exploited it better than other "port douglas" clubs

[nutbean 8,837]

maybe, but it is still probably the key to their ongoing success and they have probably exploited it better than other "port douglas" clubs

Sydney - Franklin and Tippet, Kennedy, McGlynn ( and good value out of Mumford)

Port have taken in ordinary footballers in White and Schulz and have turned them around. Ebert has been good as has Monfries and you can now add Polec and Ryder to the list...

But Freo hasn't had the same success

[daisycutter 28,700]

Sydney - Franklin and Tippet, Kennedy, McGlynn ( and good value out of Mumford)

Port have taken in ordinary footballers in White and Schulz and have turned them around. Ebert has been good as has Monfries and you can now add Polec and Ryder to the list...

But Freo hasn't had the same success

well i never said other port douglas clubs didn't try to use the same tactics, just that hawthorn probably did it better, successfully and more frequently over a period of time

they have an impressive list of high imports over the same time we have languished

if the afl is looking at equalisation factors this could be one to consider

strangely this doesn't seem to be the same problem in nrl where mt druitt clubs seems to attract top liners easier

just saying

Edited May 20, 2015 by daisycutter

[praha 10,369]

yup, we really nailed it with this batch:

[Machsy 2,858]

Every time I look at that picture I want to find Schwab and Prendergast and shoot them.

Surprised no one has corrected you yet...

That draft class belongs to CAC, not BP.

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,583]

Surprised no one has corrected you yet...

That draft class belongs to CAC, not BP.

Oh really. Well him too. But still the thoughht of Prendergast makes me mad also.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

TOUMPAS!!!!!

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

I was so happy for Toumpas today and hope he can take some confidence from his game, he didn't drop his head today after his mistake and kicked a couple.

[praha 10,369]

Morton had a few good games.

we need consistency.

[Sir Why You Little 34,965]

Do it again Jimmy

and Do it even better...

[Biffen 12,436]

Do it again Jimmy

and Do it even better...

I thought you wanted him out?