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Morton had a few good games.

we need consistency.

No sh!t.

Seriously, just try being happy for once. Just once. You don't need to start talking about how we're so good we're going to make finals and Toumpas is odds-on for the Brownlow, but just try being positive every now and again. It feels good you know.

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if Toumpas played like that most games of his career, he would retire a loved and well respected MFC player, and a solid draft pick.

I think with a few more games like that the deer in the headlight moments may disappear.

Still seems a little reluctant to make physical contact.

Would like to see his use the run and speed which got him drafted

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I think with a few more games like that the deer in the headlight moments may disappear.

Still seems a little reluctant to make physical contact.

Would like to see his use the run and speed which got him drafted

had the run. I was at the game, so you can see how he runs lengths of the ground to link up. Similar to Watts. You can't see that on telly.

Certainly doesn't have the speed yet.

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Jury is still out. Today was his best game

He still concerns me with his pace

But at least he only shat himself once today..

So generous of you.

While he did have some very bad moments he kept at it, won a couple of contests in spectacular fashion and was a real contributor.

Why not go with that. Live in the moment, as Neale D used to say.

You can hang s*&$ on him later if that's appropriate but be decent enough to acknowledge he made a difference.

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So generous of you.

While he did have some very bad moments he kept at it, won a couple of contests in spectacular fashion and was a real contributor.

Why not go with that. Live in the moment, as Neale D used to say.

You can hang s*&$ on him later if that's appropriate but be decent enough to acknowledge he made a difference.

i said it was his best game for the club
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Today's performance while encouraging is totally irrelevant if he doesn't back It up next week, he showed far more courage both in his attack on the ball, and in his decisions with ball in hand and the level of his gut running was an example of why he went at number 4 in the draft, that is the standard I expect to see as a minimum from now though, the kid has ability Now he just needs to keep the momentum and build

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Not sure why people open a thread to say crap thread? Do these same people walk into stores they don't like to say 'crap store?' Or visit newspaper companies they don't like to say 'crap newspaper'?

Some people need to get a life

That said ToumpAs game yesterday was the first semi solid game he has played and he definitely showed a bit. I'm hopeful he can now string a couple more together and really cement himself in starting 22 and look dangerous to the opposition.

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Definitely not going to get carried away but very happy he played well. I think with another pre season he may start to get that speed back that he seemed to have lost due to the hip surgery. I still have a feeling he will turn out to be a solid AFL wing/half forward who can also have stints in the middle.

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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/the-emerging-team-behind-leon-camerons-emerging-team-20150522-gh7554.html

Resilience and toughness and competitiveness have been the 42-year-old's non-negotiables, just as they were for the GWS recruiters as they selected the game's best young talent. Cameron said the Giants' on-field emergence this season can be put down to those qualities. "If they come to your club competitive, then you can build that culture really quickly," he said. "If they come highly skilled and just a little bit competitive it can take longer. You need talent and you need good decision-making but the underlying factor has to be competitiveness.

The above quote is from Leon Cameron. Pretty much to me explains why they over looked Toumpas and is one of the reason we went so wrong with a lot of our draft choices.

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The above quote is from Leon Cameron. Pretty much to me explains why they over looked Toumpas and is one of the reason we went so wrong with a lot of our draft choices.

They went with O'Rourke over Toumpas so I don't think that is 100% correct as he seems a similar sort of player.

If they were simply drafting for competitiveness they would've taken Wines. I think Toumpas will have a strong second half to this season which he can build on to really come on next year, which is perfectly fine as he is still only 21.

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They went with O'Rourke over Toumpas so I don't think that is 100% correct as he seems a similar sort of player.

If they were simply drafting for competitiveness they would've taken Wines. I think Toumpas will have a strong second half to this season which he can build on to really come on next year, which is perfectly fine as he is still only 21.

... and he's still only played 22 games.

He showed a bit yesterday - positive signs.

Runs hard to position but I wouldn't call him a true gut runner ... yet

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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/the-emerging-team-behind-leon-camerons-emerging-team-20150522-gh7554.html

Resilience and toughness and competitiveness have been the 42-year-old's non-negotiables, just as they were for the GWS recruiters as they selected the game's best young talent. Cameron said the Giants' on-field emergence this season can be put down to those qualities. "If they come to your club competitive, then you can build that culture really quickly," he said. "If they come highly skilled and just a little bit competitive it can take longer. You need talent and you need good decision-making but the underlying factor has to be competitiveness.

The above quote is from Leon Cameron. Pretty much to me explains why they over looked Toumpas and is one of the reason we went so wrong with a lot of our draft choices.

Always been a huge Leon Cameron fan. Loved him as a player and he's as smart a coach as he was a player.

But let's face it, GWS had so many high draft picks that they couldn't lose. They were always going to be a fearsome team at some stage. It was a matter of when, not if.

It's like someone who's inherited a trillion dollars telling everyone the secret of how to make money.

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