THE ESSENDON 34: ON TRIAL

[beelzebub 23,196]

[Cards13 9,117]

lol - i think essendrug must use IS based psychology methods to attract all the nutters - working well too

My brain melted after the 2nd paragraph and I had to stop reading it. Wtf?!

[biggestred 4,779]

http://mobile.news.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-players-consider-class-action-against-afl-and-bombers-if-found-guilty-of-doping/story-fndv8gad-1227277033708

Class action v the afl?

Good luck

[daisycutter 29,301]

My brain melted after the 2nd paragraph and I had to stop reading it. Wtf?!

what didn't you understand?

[Cards13 9,117]

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/depleted-dons--could-skew-year-for-other-teams-20150324-1m6rfp.html

The language makes me laugh.. "Horrendous issues" ffs this is a sport not life and death. In saying that just get the right outcome. 1 season truly affected will make 0 difference in the long run, it will be a subplot in history like the Blacksox and Warnie/M Waugh.

[daisycutter 29,301]

yeah, just like geelong being the only vic club to enjoy a true home ground advantage. that wouldn't skew the competition would it?.

[Cards13 9,117]

what didn't you understand?

F I loved the "no positive tests" line from Sheedy. F the whole thing, it's bat chit as usual:

There has never been a positive drug test, can you tell me whats going on in this country? That means if you are near a bank got robbed you could be up for robbing a bank, said Sheedy.

You know as well as I do that when you go and get a (flu) injection, how do you know what is in the thing. That is the problem with the whole case.

How about a waiver form?!

[beelzebub 23,196]

http://mobile.news.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-players-consider-class-action-against-afl-and-bombers-if-found-guilty-of-doping/story-fndv8gad-1227277033708

Class action v the afl?

Good luck

got to be someone elses fault.... certainly not the players

Kum bay yah seems to have died its death !!

[qarocks 107]

I took some time to look back at all the articles and news about this, and it was pretty interesting.

I wonder if some people forget that essendon self reported to kick this whole thing off.

The people in charge at the time come across as repentant and sorry.The club reported that they weren't sure what was happening with the injections.

Jobe Watson said he signed a consent form saying he was going to take one particular injection, but was told it was ok to take.

These people who wanted the best for the club stood down.

Then after that happened, essendon and hird seemed to take on a more militant and attacking tact ending up in the courts etc... and here we are now with hird and co saying they didnt take anything illegal and didn't do anything wrong.

The people who stood down seemed to think what happened was wrong.

I can't see how the players will not get banned .. best case they dealt in a massive grey area - worst case took illegal substances. It's not like the substances involved are vitamin b either.

Do you guys think any of the early articles and news still stands up? If it does, I think they they are in big trouble. It's been so long since it began, I worry people may have forgotten how dodgy it was at the start.

[daisycutter 29,301]

F I loved the "no positive tests" line from Sheedy. F the whole thing, it's bat chit as usual:

There has never been a positive drug test, can you tell me whats going on in this country? That means if you are near a bank got robbed you could be up for robbing a bank, said Sheedy.

You know as well as I do that when you go and get a (flu) injection, how do you know what is in the thing. That is the problem with the whole case.

How about a waiver form?!

oh, you were talking about sheedy's nut case comments.......not my allegorical retort about how nutters are so prevalent at the hangar

[Willmoy1947 3,957]

Sheedy might rue the day he went back there....

[beelzebub 23,196]

Essendon 'self reported' once dumbo-metriou gave them the heads up.

They were already into damage control. .. aka SPIN !!

[Cards13 9,117]

oh, you were talking about sheedy's nut case comments.......not my allegorical retort about how nutters are so prevalent at the hangar

well deeeer

[binman 41,939]

I loved this line from Warner the Wally in the article linked above:

'AFL boss Gillon McLachlan has publicly stated the league must accept some level of responsibility for the saga.'

He has stopped bothering with any pretense that he is not a mouthpiece for EFC. Now he is giving evidence for the prosecution (ie in the fantasy case where the players sue the AFL)

By the way the Gil v Alan Jones interview in that article is hilarious. Jones is unbelievable. Attack from the get go and accusing ASADA of corruption. Wow

[Cards13 9,117]

Sheedy might rue the day he went back there....

Haha as the saviour! Never. He loves it and the attention.

[Soidee 1,496]

Oh Dear!!!!! Now good old Kevvy is now the latest in the propaganda conga line at essendrug. Pleeeeeeese pleeeeeeese Kevin.....give those of us with a bit of intelligence a fair go.

Quite frankly, Essendon, some sections of the media and the AFL boys club believe when it comes to drugs in sport....they are different to the rest of the sports world and they also believe in being treated in a parallel universe on this subject.

Sheedy mouthing off suggesting it's everyone else fault is just the latest example.

Nothing BUT nothing will change my now held view that Hird and his comrades have forever stained the game through his win at all costs thinking. As for Essendon ...their biggest mistake was keeping him on.

[bing181 8,903]

As for Essendon ...their biggest mistake was keeping him on.

Followed closely by hiring a throwback to the seventies in Sheedy.

And they talk about being credible.

[sue 9,003]

This talk of not counting the 4 points from Essendon matches this year is very discouraging. They seem to be one of the few teams we usually beat.

[What 18,810]

This talk of not counting the 4 points from Essendon matches this year is very discouraging. They seem to be one of the few teams we usually beat.

Wont happen.

If points were counted for games vs GWS and Gold Coast in their first couple of years they will count vs a depleted Essendon too

[John Crow Batty 8,764]

Quite frankly its a ridiculously slanted view.

There's always going to be weak teams. In this instance Essendon becomes one. Thats all.

I am curious Geelong keep popping up suggesting we're worse off without Essendon.

I think they do protest too much.

[jnrmac 19,890]

http://mobile.news.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-players-consider-class-action-against-afl-and-bombers-if-found-guilty-of-doping/story-fndv8gad-1227277033708

Class action v the afl?

Good luck

This is the ultimate red herring and based on the fact that the AFL are the ultimate employer (or at least a co-signatory to each playing contract. Therefore they are responsible for what happened at Essendon. Ridiculous. They are clinging to the fact that the AFL clubs are ultinmately owned by the AFL.

Sugggest they haven't read the Collective Bargaining Agreement that the players sign up to....

29. SAFE WORKING ENVIRONMENT 29.1 Each AFL Club, as the employer of Players, has obligations under the Occupational Health and Safety legislation in the respective States to take all reasonable steps to protect the health and safety of Players at work. Each AFL Club shall set up appropriate workplace consultative procedures involving Players and other employees consistent with relevant Occupational Health and Safety legislation to progress health and safety issues.

And

“Player” means a player of Australian Football who is or becomes contracted with an AFL Club and is or becomes listed with the AFL as a Player with an AFL Club.

“Standard Playing Contract” means the form of contract, as agreed between AFL and AFLPA, for the employment of a Player by an AFL Club to play Australian Football.

And in any case if the players have taken something illegal they are in breach of their contract regardless of the circumstances.

Muppets.

Edited March 24, 2015 by jnrmac

[hardtack 10,400]

This talk of not counting the 4 points from Essendon matches this year is very discouraging. They seem to be one of the few teams we usually beat.

Maybe they should still count the 4 points, but the percentage resulting from the scores should either be devalued or not counted at all.

[daisycutter 29,301]

the fixture is already hopelessly compromised in so many ways, we can live with another inequality

[old dee 23,486]

the fixture is already hopelessly compromised in so many ways, we can live with another inequality

Yes dc it is hardly going to stop us making the eight.

[Gorgoroth 12,701]

Two wins to the saints may mean we finish last tho...