2015 AFL National Draft prospects: The next batch

[Whispering_Jack 29,333]

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AFL Draft Big Board 3.0: The winds of change

[jackaub 1,402]

This week's TAC Cup Future Stars top 20 -

1. Brisbane - Joshua Schache

2. Carlton - Jacob Weitering

3. Sydney* - Callum Mills

4. Gold Coast - Charlie Curnow

5. GWS* - Jacob Hopper

6. Essendon - Darcy Parish

7. Melbourne - Aaron Francis

8. St. Kilda - Darcy Tucker

9. Collingwood - Callum Ah Chee

10. Brisbane* - Ben Keays

11. GWS* - Matthew Kennedy

12. Geelong - Rhys Mathieson

13. Port Adelaide - Ryan Burton

14. Adelaide - Harley Balic

15. North Melbourne -Sam Weideman

16. Brisbane* - Eric Hipwood

17. Western Bulldogs - Harry McKay

18. Richmond - Kieran Collins

19. Hawthorn - Jade Gresham

20. Carlton - Bailey Rice **

* Academy bid

** Father/son

Jack can you please explain how the Sydney academy works and if it allows an early pick why don't all teams run an academy to take advantage?

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AFL Draft Big Board 3.0: The winds of change

The footage of Francis reminds me of Hurley.

[SaberFang 7,151]

Jack can you please explain how the Sydney academy works and if it allows an early pick why don't all teams run an academy to take advantage?

Because the AFL only want the northern clubs to have an unfair advantage.

[MikeAlphaTango 150]

So pick no 6 it is... Weitering and Schache lock for 1 & 2

GC, Dons and Saints up next and from what I have been reading looks like Parish, Balic and Curnow/Francis are next in line.

Which leaves us with the likes of

Curnow/Francis
Tucker

Mathieson

Ah Chee

No one really excites me this year and I'm hoping we trade down in the draft for some more experienced players.

[Hulkamania Brother 52]

Just watch out for Lovell. Wish we'd get him with a mid 1st round pick, despite his realtively low height he's just smashed the agility records for the draft, is incredibly fast/strong and has marvellous disposal. God help us if he goes to Hawthorn (which is projected)..

[Whispering_Jack 29,333]

Jack can you please explain how the Sydney academy works and if it allows an early pick why don't all teams run an academy to take advantage?

The four northern states run academies for players within designated regions and they have first call under the bidding system which works the same way as bidding for father/sons i.e other clubs can bid for an academy player and (in the case of a Sydney academy player) the Swans could match the bid and take the player. In the example you quoted above, Carlton would have bid for Callum Mills which forces Sydney to take him at 4. The AFL then attributes a price on a points scale and, as a result, their later choices would be diminished.

The AFL is applying the academy system only to the northern states because it can ...

This is Plough's TAC Cup Future Stars top 20 from last week -

1. Carlton - Jacob Weitering

2. Carlton - Joshua Schache

3. Sydney* - Callum Mills

4. Brisbane - Charlie Curnow

5. GWS* - Jacob Hopper

6. Gold Coast - Aaron Francis

7. Essendon - Darcy Parish

8. Melbourne - Callum Ah Chee

9. Brisbane* - Ben Keays

10. GWS* - Matthew Kennedy

11. St. Kilda - Darcy Tucker

12. Collingwood - Rhys Mathieson

13. Geelong - Harry McKay

14. Port Adelaide - Sam Weideman

15. North Melbourne - Kieran Collins

16. Adelaide - Wayne Milera

17. Western Bulldogs - Harley Balic

18. Richmond - Jade Gresham

19. Brisbane* - Eric Hipwood

20. Carlton - Bailey Rice **

* Academy bid

** Father/son

[Pennant St Dee 12,804]

Look I like AH Chee but not for us, more icing IMO, if as above are available I hate missing out on Curnow but if unavailable Balic, Mathieson or Weidaman

[Whispering_Jack 29,333]

Former Hawk star and recruiting guru Gary Buckena has come out with this Top 10*

1. Jacob Weitering

2. Joshua Schache

3. Kieran Collins

4. Aaron Francis

5. Darcy Parish

6. Jacob Hopper

7. Darcy Tucker

8. Sam Weideman

9. Charlie Curnow

10. Rhys Mathieson

* sorry, don't have the source.

[Grimes Times 1,278]

Former Hawk star and recruiting guru Gary Buckena has come out with this Top 10*

1. Jacob Weitering

2. Joshua Schache

3. Kieran Collins

4. Aaron Francis

5. Darcy Parish

6. Jacob Hopper

7. Darcy Tucker

8. Sam Weideman

9. Charlie Curnow

10. Rhys Mathieson

* sorry, don't have the source.

http://www.afl.com.au/draft/road-to-the-draft.workstation

[Whispering_Jack 29,333]

I don't know if Terry Wallace has any inside info or whether he just decided to dispense with the priority picks in his TAC Cup Future Stars top 20 draft picks but FWIW, he now has us getting Darcy Tucker:-

1. Carlton - Jacob Weitering

2. Brisbane - Joshua Schache

3. Sydney* - Callum Mills

4. Gold Coast - Charlie Curnow

5. GWS* - Jacob Hopper

6. Essendon - Darcy Parish

7. St. Kilda - Aaron Francis

8. Melbourne - Darcy Tucker

9. Brisbane* - Ben Keays

10. Collingwood - Kieran Collins

11. GWS* - Matthew Kennedy

12. Geelong - Rhys Mathieson

13. Port Adelaide - Harley Balic

14. North Melbourne - Callum Ah Chee

15. Western Bulldogs - Sam Weideman

16. Brisbane* - Eric Hipwood

17. Adelaide - Harry McKay

18. Richmond - Wayne Milera

19. Hawthorn - Jade Gresham

20. Carlton - Bailey Rice **

* Academy bid

** Father/son

[Deecisive 1,709]

Why are Brisbane and GWS getting two picks inside the first round?

[TheoX 1,220]

Why are Brisbane and GWS getting two picks inside the first round?

Academy players. They'll need to make up the 'points' with other draft picks.

[Return to Glory 8,398]

Why are Brisbane and GWS getting two picks inside the first round?

It's a never ending pay out for those GWS non entities isn't it. As for this academy horseshite, I declare the Melbourne Metro area ours.

[ChaserJ 4,811]

Wayne Milera with 17 touches and 3 goals (including the match winner) for Centrals in SANFL finals.

Reckon he'll move into the top 10 on the back of his last couple of senior performances.

[manny100 1,411]

Gary Buckenara on the AFL draft as talked has 6 'bigs' in his top 10. His reasoning is that they are hard to come by and this year they are good. He said Weideman has a bit of Pavlich about him but that clubs would want to make sure his injury is ok. Said Curnow could surprise. Rated Collins at 3 - said clubs would work on his agility.

I would like us to pick up either Weideman or Curnow.

[mikeydemon 126]

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't St Kilda pass on Petracca for McCartin because they didn't think this years draft crop had many good talls?

Seems half the top 10 are talls.

Oh well, worked out pretty well for us

[SaberFang 7,151]

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't St Kilda pass on Petracca for McCartin because they didn't think this years draft crop had many good talls?

Seems half the top 10 are talls.

Oh well, worked out pretty well for us

Always go best available. Reckon the Saints might regret last year. You don't need to go tall with pick #1 just because they appear to be the best available tall. Look at Bruce.

Edited September 13, 2015 by Lamashtu

[mikeydemon 126]

Always go best available. Reckon the Saints might regret last year. You don't need to go tall with pick #1 just because they appear to be the best available tall. Look at Bruce.

Lucas Cook definitely backs up that theory

[whatwhat say what 22,309]

if we have the pick (which i kinda hope we don't; i want it traded for a true mid who can come in and impose straight away), i reckon milera is looking a strong possibility.

we're unlikely to go for collins given the mcdonalds, frost, garland and dunn of our backline world, and i would expect mathieson to be favoured over tucker anyway.

but milera is getting hot at exactly the right time of the year. if his agility and arcane testing stuff is as good as his performances have been for centrals, he'll zoom up the charts.

[rjay 24,677]

if we have the pick (which i kinda hope we don't; i want itSo traded for a true mid who can come in and impose straight away), i reckon milera is looking a strong possibility.

we're unlikely to go for collins given the mcdonalds, frost, garland and dunn of our backline world, and i would expect mathieson to be favoured over tucker anyway.

but milera is getting hot at exactly the right time of the year. if his agility and arcane testing stuff is as good as his performances have been for centrals, he'll zoom up the charts.

Sorry 'Andrew', I don't really rate SANFL form anymore...

[Watts the matter 1,235]

Always go best available. Reckon the Saints might regret last year. You don't need to go tall with pick #1 just because they appear to be the best available tall. Look at Bruce.

We rated McCartin number one - as did St Kilda.

[rjay 24,677]

We rated McCartin number one - as did St Kilda.

I think we might have rated Heeney as number one but how would you know unless you're part of the inner circle.

[dazzledavey36 53,277]

We rated McCartin number one - as did St Kilda.

We would have picked Brayshaw first before Mccartin.

Fact.

[Watts the matter 1,235]

I think we might have rated Heeney as number one but how would you know unless you're part of the inner circle.

I am going by the book the The Draftees - which states if we had the number one pick it would have been hard to choose between McCartin and Heeney with Petracca, Brayshaw and Lever rated behind the pair.