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10 years at Geelong.

I think Footscray failed McCartney.

What about Neeld? Premiership coach at Collingwood, we must of failed Neeld.

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Nah he's a gun coach with a winning % of 30 he will go down as one of the great coaches of the modern era.

The discontent at the Bulldogs all year was just a myth.

Undoubtedly the greatest coach we have had since Norm Smith.

Head coach. Development coach.

See ... not the same.

Of course, I realise that that's two ideas, which seems to be one more than you can get your head around at any one time, but perhaps if you repeat it enough times, comprehension will come.

If not, refer to posts above, and/or perhaps run through a list of players that he was in charge of at Geelong as development coach, and look at what's become of them. Might as well work through the list alphabetically, so first name out of the hat ... Ablett. I don't know, you tell me, put that down as a success or not?

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Although you do claim that Kurt never died

I think I can see what happened here. The opening post is written by a person fascinated with rock musicians who died...or perhaps did not. I assume he was looking at the Abbey Road album cover, and the idea that McCartney was, or perhaps was not dead...ergo, McCartney comes to the Demons. Obvious, really.

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We already know. Play Viney on him.

McCartney was a failure at the Bulldogs, hated by all. How is this a good get?

Just sounds like another reject at Melbourne, we would be just as well off going for Neeld as a development coach.

Seriously can't recall even one half-decent post from you...

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Head coach. Development coach.

See ... not the same.

Of course, I realise that that's two ideas, which seems to be one more than you can get your head around at any one time, but perhaps if you repeat it enough times, comprehension will come.

If not, refer to posts above, and/or perhaps run through a list of players that he was in charge of at Geelong as development coach, and look at what's become of them. Might as well work through the list alphabetically, so first name out of the hat ... Ablett. I don't know, you tell me, put that down as a success or not?

I put it down to Thompson a proven coach. McCartney was at the right place at the right time like Neeld was at Collingwood.

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Seriously can't recall even one half-decent post from you...

And your record is great is it?

Keep up the love affair with hacks it makes me laugh.

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I put it down to Thompson a proven coach. McCartney was at the right place at the right time like Neeld was at Collingwood.

Well then, case closed. Clearly rode the coat tails of Geelong's success. Hack.

In hindsight it's amazing that they let him get away with it for ten years.

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Anyone who thinks McCarthy will end up coaching the dees after what just down at the dogs, has rocks in their head. My mate who is a dogs supporter had little time for him, can't coach., preaches the same [censored] neeld did just had more mates from geelong to back him up.. Never player the game has sans credit in the bank!

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My mate who is a dogs supporter had little time for him, can't coach. ... just had more mates from geelong to back him up.

Bit of a contradiction there, could be tricky to resolve. Who to believe? On the one hand we have "your mate", on the other, we have professional footballers who worked with him for many years.

Hmm.

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McCartney inherited a bunch of individualistic sooks - think Griffen, Cooney, Minson, Higgins, Jones, Jarrod Grant.

Not a team oriented bone in their bodies.

He was right to purge the team of them but paid the price because he was not supported by a gutless administration.

Thank God we didn't get any of them.

To say that he could not be a good pick up as a development coach is ridiculous given his CV.

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What about Neeld? Premiership coach at Collingwood, we must of failed Neeld.

Clearly we didn't develop him properly.

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Not sure but I thought Brad Miller was our development coach? If so as he moved on or is he going to fill an assistant coach role?

One would hope we have a number of coaches developing the players at our club.

The amount of Geelong past and present players who came out and had pot shots at the Dogs over their handling of McCartney suggests to me that he had a huge influence at their club. Essendon were shattered to lose him when they did too. Running the show is a tough gig. Now he gets to do what he does best, teach kids how to play footy.

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Whether the Bulldogs were right or not in dispensing with McCartney's services as senior coach, doesn't necessarily impact on us employing him to develop junior players.

It's my understanding that McCartney was brutally honest in his assessment of a number of players at their end of year interviews, particularly some of the senior lot which caused sufficient discomfort for a few of them to make the decision to walk.

It's a dangerous business these days to be brutally honest with your senior players and the Bulldogs will doubtless find this out in years to come.

Melbourne and the Doggies fought out two close games this year and certainly in the second, their younger brigade stood out. But I believe the reason they won both was the steadiness and experience of their older players. It was a good mix but they won't have it next year and that's pretty ominous for them given that if you reverse the results of those two matches, we finish ahead of them on the ladder at the end of the season.

If he is in fact appointed, then McCartney's impeccable record in the development of juniors at Geelong and the Bulldogs is what would have attracted Melbourne. The fact that he was able to attract some of the players he worked with at Geelong over to the Dogs as assistants says a lot about his personal skills with the players who he spent a long time in developing.

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Not sure but I thought Brad Miller was our development coach? If so as he moved on or is he going to fill an assistant coach role?

Allison is head of development.

I guess we will find out what role he has.

Midfield coach?

2nd assistant to the travelling secretary?

Junior vice-president?

He certainly won't be head of senior player retention...

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Dog's senior players have been known to run things their own way for quite some time. Have heard that from a couple of people involved with WB, albeit not inner circle. Also, the Ackamanis interview on Open Mike spells this out pretty clearly. Sounds to me that McCarthy was pretty honest with the senior players and maybe put them back in their place. There's no doubt he is good at developing young players. It will be a win for the club if he takes over as midfield coach from Stone.

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Pretty sure daniel cross would have had a say in his appointment, they would have asked his opinion

Doubt it.

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McCartney inherited a bunch of individualistic sooks - think Griffen, Cooney, Minson, Higgins, Jones, Jarrod Grant.

Not a team oriented bone in their bodies.

He was right to purge the team of them but paid the price because he was not supported by a gutless administration.

Thank God we didn't get any of them.

To say that he could not be a good pick up as a development coach is ridiculous given his CV.

this is the most likely scenario, i before team.... the result of a clubs culture, which has spent 50 odd years at or near the bottom.

its a hard dusty road to try to break it up & renew it.

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Wow.

I thought to myself "McCartney sacked? Stupid bulldogs. If only we could bring in for a development role, but we'd never have the room or the money..."

Very pleased with this development.

Was exactly my thinking when he was chopped. Same as well regards...yeah, but, what are the chances. Suddenly Stone retires ( curious timing that :rolleyes:) and now maybe Macca to Melbourne.

We ARE such a different club now :)

All the ducks in a row now just need it all to rub off on the players. An interesting development :)

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