Patrick McCartin

[jabberwocky 2,301]

Agreed. Our defence is actually not too bad on paper. Our forward line and midfield is atrocious.

Lever at pick 3 makes no sense. Absolutley no sense.

Makes more sense than pigeon holing a kid as a defender because he played there as a bottom ager in the Tac cup.

Who's to say that it wasn't an apprenticeship to playing as a mid this year before injury ruined those plans, it seems likely that it was. Where did Bontempelli play as a 17 year old?

You just have to take the best player available, and yes that is all relative but we pay a full time recruiting expert to make these judgments.

If we end up with a star defender rather than a middle of the road mid I can't see anyone complaining.

[InVINCEable 358]

He has a gap in between his front teeth, that indicates luck.

He will probably be a multiple premiership full forward.......just look at Roughead.

With Hogan at Centre half forward , we will have a forward line most will fear, and heaps of confidence to our midfield who won't be afraid of kicking it inside fifty.

Does that mean Hogan will leave us for big money after 2 premierships?

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

Hogan stays FF. is there room for two deep FF in the same team? BTW a highlight of McCartin for me is the way he one grabs it! Strong hands!

[nutbean 8,838]

With Hogan at Centre half forward , we will have a forward line most will fear, and heaps of confidence to our midfield who won't be afraid of kicking it inside fifty.

good lord.. a feared forward line based on a footballer who hasn't played a senior game yet and a footballer we haven't drafted yet...

[InVINCEable 358]

Hogan stays FF. is there room for two deep FF in the same team? BTW a highlight of McCartin for me is the way he one grabs it! Strong hands!

McCartin is more mobile then most think, and also did you not watch the Nab Challenge match? Hogan played at CHF and was good.

[InVINCEable 358]

good lord.. a feared forward line based on a footballer who hasn't played a senior game yet and a footballer we haven't drafted yet...

A potentially feared forward line

[DeeZee 7,395]

Does that mean Hogan will leave us for big money after 2 premierships?

If we get two premierships I don't care who leaves.

[spirit of norm smith 16,459]

Melbourne 18.9.117 def Gold Coast 15.10.100

Goals: Hogan 4, Kent 3, Dawes 2, McCartin 2, Gartlett 2, Howe, Newton, Watts, Tyson, Toumpas.

Best: Tyson, N Jones, Viney, Lamumba, Hogan, Howe.

If only...

[nutbean 8,838]

A potentially feared forward line

I have seen enough potential unfulfilled at our club to last me 5 lifetimes...

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

McCartin is more mobile then most think, and also did you not watch the Nab Challenge match? Hogan played at CHF and was good.

I did watch it but it was so damn long ago lol. Ahhh what a shame the lad missed all of last year, still [censored] at that!

So there's room for both in the same set up? Would be kind of hard to pass up a tall forward duo!

[1 red eye 1 blue eye 771]

The way the Club is setting up is giving me a lot of confidence and with that I'm also feeling a lot more patient. With this rare opportunity at the top of the draft to pick up a class mid and forward, it's just too good to pass up imo, I get excited watching the highlights of 4 or 5 boys and won't be unhappy to see any of them in our colours, but I keep coming back to the foundations and the structure. Let's build evenly. So, I'm for Brayshaw and McCartin with 2&3 and a mid at 40, to me that's a good balance. We have a team assembled that can develop and I reckon we can start to get real excited for our future.

[InVINCEable 358]

Brayshaw and McCartin, then pick up Oscar McDonald at 40

[Pennant St Dee 13,173]

Melbourne 18.9.117 def Gold Coast 15.10.100

Goals: Hogan 4, Kent 3, Dawes 2, McCartin 2, Gartlett 2, Howe, Newton, Watts, Tyson, Toumpas.

Best: Tyson, N Jones, Viney, Lamumba, Hogan, Howe.

If only...

No SONS I don't want us conceeding that many and I don't think Roos will like it either.

Also Dawes is suspended

[Machsy 2,858]

Ok, call me stupid but can someone please explain the obsession with Lever over McCaitin. Everything I've read says he's a key back who could potentially play in the midfield although he never has. We just recruited Frost and our backline is the one area we don't have to worry about so why Lever. Why not Laverde for instance if you don't want a key forward

When present with a choice between using pick 3 on Matthew Scarlett or Levi Casboult, or even Nathan Eagleton, I'd choose Scarlett every time.

In no way am I saying that either Lever, McCartin or an available mid will become anything like these players, I'd just a comparison to illustrate why I personally would take Lever - I think he'll be the better player.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,829]

No SONS I don't want us conceeding that many and I don't think Roos will like it either.

Also Dawes is suspended

Yeah Roosy would regard that as a poor win if we leaked 16 goals.

If we beat GC in round 1 it would be more like a 12 goal to 9 affair.

[djr 1,451]

Just heard Brett Anderson on SEN say that Petracca is no longer a certainty to go at No.1. A few weeks ago he was, but now 50-50. I assume McCartin still looms large with St.Kilda.

If McCartin does go at 1, I would not automatically assume we would go for both Petracca and Brayshaw. Lever would still be in the picture.

Edited November 11, 2014 by djr

[Demon Disciple 12,126]

If we get two premierships I don't care who leaves.

I'd have drunk myself to death after the first one, so wouldn't bother me!!!

[Deemotivated 550]

When present with a choice between using pick 3 on Matthew Scarlett or Levi Casboult, or even Nathan Eagleton, I'd choose Scarlett every time.

In no way am I saying that either Lever, McCartin or an available mid will become anything like these players, I'd just a comparison to illustrate why I personally would take Lever - I think he'll be the better player.

Lever getting pigeon holed off his bottom age playing position is amusing. Watch Kade Kolodjashnij from the suns rip the midfield apart in coming years... A defender when drafted.

[rjay 24,928]

Lever getting pigeon holed off his bottom age playing position is amusing. Watch Kade Kolodjashnij from the suns rip the midfield apart in coming years... A defender when drafted.

Depends on how 'Rocket' sees things but I wouldn't be surprised to see Kade stay as a sweeper off HB where he can set up play. He does it well.

[Deemotivated 550]

Depends on how 'Rocket' sees things but I wouldn't be surprised to see Kade stay as a sweeper off HB where he can set up play. He does it well.

In the short term I think you're right.

Look at our very own prince Lumumba, a good sweeper and link man but could very well be a midfield weapon.

Edited November 11, 2014 by Deemotivated

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

Just heard Brett Anderson on SEN say that Petracca is no longer a certainty to go at No.1. A few weeks ago he was, but now 50-50. I assume McCartin still looms large with St.Kilda.

If McCartin does go at 1, I would not automatically assume we would go for both Petracca and Brayshaw. Lever would still be in the picture.

Hope it's not Brayshaw they have their sights on.

[Ted Lasso 19,518]

Still think mccartin will be too tempting for the saints to pass up

[Roger Mellie 4,025]

Melbourne 18.9.117 def Gold Coast 15.10.100

Goals: Hogan 4, Kent 3, Dawes 2, McCartin 2, Gartlett 2, Howe, Newton, Watts, Tyson, Toumpas.

Best: Tyson, N Jones, Viney, Lamumba, Hogan, Howe.

If only...

WTF?

How did Kent not get in the best?

All those goals came when he was playing in the midfield!

Did you not even watch the game?

[olisik 4,060]

Kent reminds me of Boomer Harvey

[Deemotivated 550]

Kent reminds me of Boomer Harvey

Gee that'd be handy if it panned out that way.