Post Match Masochism - Round 21

[olisik 4,060]

Was Broomhead the player Collingwood tookwith the Dawes pick? He kicked a lazy 3 this weekend.

[dazzledavey36 54,285]

Cant wait to see what weak excuse Saty will pull out this time.

[Guest]

Cant wait to see what weak excuse Saty will pull out this time.

WHY DON'T YOU LOVE THE CLUB DAZZLE?!!! CAN'T YOU HANDLE A LITTLE POSITIVITY?! YOU DON'T EVEN WATCH THE GAMES!!! BYAAAAAARGH!

Add a few more punctuation mistakes and a few unfunny jokes and I think you will have about got it.

[Deespicable 2,724]

How many times did I see a Melbourne player mark the ball today, stop then kick it over the mark? That style of play died at the start of the 60's/end of the 50's! It seems as if they want to take a breather whenever they get a mark.

It's a style that Roosy used successfully at Sydney. The issue is two-fold.

1) We have very few players with the speed or the licence from Roosy or the confidence to take the game on and counter-attack like other sides do. Watts has the speed but he's too scared to use it. Kent has the speed but he butchers it.

2) Roosy's game plan at Sydney was to wait and hold for a lead up the line and eventually the ball ended up in Goodes or Hall's or O'Keefe hands. With Dawes and Frawley unable to do any damage our attacking plan goes out the door and there's no plan B and Nathan Jones, Watts and Crossy are the only ones who consider going up the middle and Watts barely gets it because he doesn't work hard enough.

[CBDees 3,167]

Can we swap lists with GWS?

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,778]

We are the first team since fitzroy in 1995 to lose every home game in a season.

Exclusive company.

[titan_uranus 24,975]

It's a style that Roosy used successfully at Sydney. The issue is two-fold.

1) We have very few players with the speed or the licence from Roosy or the confidence to take the game on and counter-attack like other sides do. Watts has the speed but he's too scared to use it. Kent has the speed but he butchers it.

2) Roosy's game plan at Sydney was to wait and hold for a lead up the line and eventually the ball ended up in Goodes or Hall's or O'Keefe hands. With Dawes and Frawley unable to do any damage our attacking plan goes out the door and there's no plan B and Nathan Jones, Watts and Crossy are the only ones who consider going up the middle and Watts barely gets it because he doesn't work hard enough.

There are further issues than that.

We don't run hard enough, due to a lack of runners, a lack of fitness, and today, a lack of work ethic. That means there's no overlap run giving the players options by hand, or options to kick to out in space.

Another issue is that most of our players are timid and don't want to be the one to turn it over. That pressure makes them look sideways and backwards for someone who is unmanned so that they can pass the buck and let someone else try the harder kick forwards.

The lack of spread and the lack of confidence are just as bad as anything.

[DemonOX 8,787]

Yes anus and ... I think it was early in the third quarter that he went very soft at a contest.

anus, that's funny

[Ethan Tremblay 30,826]

Can we swap lists with GWS?

We saw the bold question the first time.

[chook fowler 19,446]

It's unbelievable how many run back into traffic after receiving the ball. Maybe they all need a GPS.

[jackaub 1,402]

Roos was outcoached big time today no moves worked until he ran out of moves he must share some of the blame surely

[chook fowler 19,446]

Roos was outcoached big time today no moves worked until he ran out of moves he must share some of the blame surely

You can't coach without players with decent skills. I defy anyone to get more out of that lot. Most are a lost cause.

[Wormburner 674]

We are the first team since fitzroy in 1995 to lose every home game in a season.

Exclusive company.

Wow

[Return to Glory 8,412]

We are the first team since fitzroy in 1995 to lose every home game in a season.

Exclusive company.

Perhaps we could go back to back.

[P-man 13,366]

There are further issues than that.

We don't run hard enough, due to a lack of runners, a lack of fitness, and today, a lack of work ethic. That means there's no overlap run giving the players options by hand, or options to kick to out in space.

Another issue is that most of our players are timid and don't want to be the one to turn it over. That pressure makes them look sideways and backwards for someone who is unmanned so that they can pass the buck and let someone else try the harder kick forwards.

The lack of spread and the lack of confidence are just as bad as anything.

This in particular was on full display today. You can sense the dread in the players when they stop and look for an option. They don't want to be the one that turns it over to the groans of the crowd so eventually take the sideways or backwards safe option.

When you're unwilling to take on any risks at all, you become paralysed.

[daisycutter 29,604]

You can't coach without players with decent skills. I defy anyone to get more out of that lot. Most are a lost cause.

but the skills are fine at training - roosy said and so did saty

[chook fowler 19,446]

interesting to listen to Tom McDonalds interview. Rarely seen a more disconsolate player. Said we had gone backwards since the beginning of the season - quite an admission. In a perverse way it was good to see the hurt.

[DemonOX 8,787]

Roos was outcoached big time today no moves worked until he ran out of moves he must share some of the blame surely

Its not about blame jack it about fixing the bloody problem.

IMO I have a hell of a lot of faith in Roos fixing the problem than any of the previous (so called) coaches we've had.

[jackaub 1,402]

Its not about blame jack it about fixing the bloody problem.

IMO I have a hell of a lot of faith in Roos fixing the problem than any of the previous (so called) coaches we've had.

The problem is worse now cant you see that?

[Bang Bang Bang 5,802]

Would love to know what has gone wrong since the Port game in Alice Springs. We looked like knocking off the best team in the competition at the time and had already knocked up 3 gutsy wins. It was at that point you got the feeling that the penny had finally dropped and this side was going to match it with anyone. Barely 2 months on and now this? All the good work done earlier in season has been undone with today's travesty putting a bit fat exclamation mark on it.

[viney4pm 22]

Tyson played well for the first had, especially in the first with 10 touches, but i find that he tires out too easily and just jogs to contests half the time. I saw this at least twice while i was watching in the 3rd quarter. Let's hope its due to his limited pre season and not because he thew in the towel.

[Steve13 457]

Today was awful, but not as awful as it was for Jonno Patton. Puts it all into perspective. Good luck to the young man, I hope he comes back bigger and better than ever.

[Deecisive 1,709]

Nothing wrong with Roos game plan it came down the players who did not have the football smarts, skill, or speed to cover the GWS players. The GWS had players running free all over the place as the demons continued to pay them no respect of stayed in stupid zone patterns. The GWS cut them to ribbons with their delivery as we were always second to the ball. Our forwards applied very little pressure to GWS players, in the first half our backs and mids disrupted this flow but in the second half the GWS players just danced around them. Kent absolutely butchered the ball far too often and let his man get far too many easy possessions, so many players were so busy watching their man that they let the man with the ball run free. An insipid performance and the axe must swing and swing hard, swap what you can and get what you can for any players that have any sort of currency, though on todays form not very few would have impressed any other coach. We have shot ourselves in the foot big time today, as we have shows GWS and other teams what they will be signing up for if they come to the MFC, not something many would want, so we are going to be a long way down their preference order unless we pay massive overs again. Depressing.

[Adzman 2,154]

It is time for the AFL to step in and help the dees out. A priority pick is now almost needed to stimulate some trading with the MFC. We are not attracting anyone with our current situation, and stand to fall further behind.

Our membership is going to cop a belting. The club needs urgent help. Another 2-3 years of this and the club will have missed an entire generation of supporters. The AFL must swallow their pride and do the unpopular thing and give the Dees a p/pick in the first round.

[DemonOX 8,787]

The problem is worse now cant you see that?

Based on todays performance our problems are massive but when looking at the season as a whole we have improved on last season.

Roos knows what it takes to get to the top and that's what gives me confidence in his ability to get us on the right track.