The Jack Viney bump that never was!

[DemonOX 8,581]

It's not Viney's fault that lynch has a glass jaw.

Bloody hell life is so unfair!

Edited May 4, 2014 by DemonOX

[Bendigo Demon 115]

Mark Riccuito (sorry, spelling) said during the call, that he didn't think Viney had any problems. I thought this was interestingly unbiased from him, as his allegiance to the Crows shone through most of his other commentary.

I personally can't see how he can be cited. His bump made no head high contact. The concussion came from a head clash from another player. not Viney. Sad for both players who were injured, but just one of those things. It wasn't a bad bump.

[3Dee 1,153]

Lynch jaw broken on the left side (Viney), bummer, prob will have to cop the two weeks. scheisen

[What 18,810]

what time do the MRP release their findings for each round?

[Gorgoroth 12,447]

Usually tomorrow, not 100% sure what time! normally know by 4pm.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,054]

Mark Riccuito (sorry, spelling) said during the call, that he didn't think Viney had any problems. I thought this was interestingly unbiased from him, as his allegiance to the Crows shone through most of his other commentary.

I personally can't see how he can be cited. His bump made no head high contact. The concussion came from a head clash from another player. not Viney. Sad for both players who were injured, but just one of those things. It wasn't a bad bump.

I didn't think Viney made contact but after rewatching it many times I think you'll find his right shoulder makes contact. This can be seen watching the footage where we see Viney from behind. Having said that it was in play, he was after the ball realised the situation and braced himself. It should be thrown out but the whole system is a joke, so who knows.

[Earl Hood 5,893]

When I look at it again Vineys options were to pull out of the contest completely or to not turn side on for the bump and therefore take an open shirt front from Lynch, what would you do? This will.be a real test of the MRP, I reckon. Viney didn't go hunting a hit it just appeared as a genuine contested ball situation. Will be an interesting adjudication. I have zero faith in the AFL let me say.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,054]

When I look at it again Vineys options were to pull out of the contest completely or to not turn side on for the bump and therefore take an open shirt front from Lynch, what would you do? This will.be a real test of the MRP, I reckon. Viney didn't go hunting a hit it just appeared as a genuine contested ball situation. Will be an interesting adjudication. I have zero faith in the AFL let me say.

He's done nothing wrong but that fact someone got seriously injured they may want to hang someone for it. Hopefully common sense prevails.

[daisycutter 28,730]

Lynch jaw broken on the left side (Viney), bummer, prob will have to cop the two weeks. scheisen

where did you hear this (left side)?

[Earl Hood 5,893]

He's done nothing wrong but that fact someone got seriously injured they may want to hang someone for it. Hopefully common sense prevails.

Hmmm from what you say it looks like he is cactus! AFL and common sense do not always overlap that often. Ask Jack Trengove.

[Deemotivated 550]

He's gone... Plenty of precedent but they'll rub him out. Different jumper would yield a different result.

[daisycutter 28,730]

btw did you notice viney after the bump, picks up spilled ball, puts on afterburners and runs straight at crows #11 putting him flat on his arz

the guy is a human bulldozer

[Pates 9,568]

FWIW just about every commentator and reporter is saying it was nothing more than an accident. I don't have any faith in the MRP though.

[SaberFang 7,141]

Accidental doesn't matter with high contact, hence the outrage at the Fyfe ruling in round 1.

It's a broken system.

[Pennant St Dee 11,967]

I watched it again and the Nat Fyfe bump again numerous times and now I am actually a little bit more confident that JV may get off, Fyfe had a little bit more time to either execute a tackle or a smother.

You still never know with the MRP but leaning towards accident that was just a hard contest where fate played a part

[jnrmac 19,534]

I understand your frustration jnrmac, it frustrates me too but the rule is pretty black & white these days. If you choose to bump you suffer any consequences.

My point is that the Adelaide player didn't bump or brace himself which you would reasonably expect him to in the circumstances. What was Viney supposed to do with two players bearing down on him? Stop? Run away? As it was he 'braced himself' which I would argue is different to the 'if you choose to bump' rule.

If he gets pinged it will be because the Crow player didn't brace and I think it would be wrong..

Edited May 4, 2014 by jnrmac

[jnrmac 19,534]

He's done nothing wrong but that fact someone got seriously injured they may want to hang someone for it. Hopefully common sense prevails.

Like Col Sylvia's broken jaw in the pre season comp a few years back??

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,054]

Like Col Sylvia's broken jaw in the pre season comp a few years back??

What was handed out then I can't remember?

[Dr. Gonzo 22,862]

What was handed out then I can't remember?

Nothing but I think that pre-dated the current system?

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,534]

Mark Riccuito (sorry, spelling) said during the call, that he didn't think Viney had any problems. I thought this was interestingly unbiased from him, as his allegiance to the Crows shone through most of his other commentary.

I personally can't see how he can be cited. His bump made no head high contact. The concussion came from a head clash from another player. not Viney. Sad for both players who were injured, but just one of those things. It wasn't a bad bump.

Ricciuto's probably worried that the AFL will make the MRP act retrospectively. If so, he'll be suspended for about 2 years.

(Note: I have great admiration for Ricciuto. It's just the way the game was played not that long ago).

[gsmith12 491]

MRP and common sense = oxymoron.

[dee-luded 2,958]

Pull your head out of the sand. Caught any bump issues at the tribunal this year? The incident is going to have severe scrutiny. Hopefully they find it was shoulder to shoulder and legal. But I have little confidence. The MRP see injuries and look for suspensions.

it was shoulder to shoulder initially, until inertia forced contact between shoulder & head, then lynch & georgiou head clashed. this is what did the damage to both.

so should Georgiou be suspended for being irresponsible in that he was too close behind causing the headclash or was Lynch irresponsible in his attack on the contest ?

* I know Just suspend them all !

[nutbean 8,837]

I know its semantics but I have looked at Viney's attack on that contest and I don't think his sole intention was to bump. It happened so quickly it looks to me like he was going flat out to the contest ( does he know any other way ?) and saw bodies coming and braced himself for contact rather than making a bump his primary mission.

[Fat Tony 4,627]

There is a difference between choosing to bump and protecting your ribs. Viney did the later and there was no intent to hurt.

[TGR 1,367]

MRP and common sense = oxymoron.

Will be amazed if his misses games.