Players to target at the end of the year

[Bitter but optimistic 21,592]

How about Malceski and their first pick for Chip?

I'm sure they'd rush to snap that offer up Fire!

[Ethan Tremblay 28,848]

How about Malceski and their first pick for Chip?

Chip and Malceski are FA's so unfortunately it doesn't work like that.

[Ted Lasso 17,318]

Chip and Malceski are FA's so unfortunately it doesn't work like that.

As far as I am aware a free agent can be traded like any out of contract player as long as the player agrees, if Chip nominates the swans and a deal can be done that all parties are happy with I am pretty sure it can go ahead, obviously though Chip holds the power as he can choose his destination and walk regardless of what the club thinks

[Ethan Tremblay 28,848]

As far as I am aware a free agent can be traded like any out of contract player as long as the player agrees, if Chip nominates the swans and a deal can be done that all parties are happy with I am pretty sure it can go ahead, obviously though Chip holds the power as he can choose his destination and walk regardless of what the club thinks

Thanks for clarifying mate. If Goodes and O'Keefe are done at the end of the season I wouldn't be surprised if Chip went to the Swans.

[Ted Lasso 17,318]

Thanks for clarifying mate. If Goodes and O'Keefe are done at the end of the season I wouldn't be surprised if Chip went to the Swans.

Mate, if Chip ends up at the swans Eddie is going to go right off his tree! but I agree, it's certainly on the cards although all the whispers suggest the cats are the frontrunners at the minute, which could backfire on mr frawley bigtime

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

ill take anything/anyone really. It could do us no harm.

[Nasher 33,246]

I would love Malceski - a classy ball user running off half back, who can slot straight in? Who would honestly say "no thanks"? I reckon we need that more than we need compensatory draft picks - if nothing else, it buys time to a) find the next young gun to play the role, and b) develop said young gun properly rather than relying on him immediately. Malceski's age might be the only thing to throw that in doubt; if he was 2 years younger I'd take him without question, regardless of the Frawley outcome.

Surely this is all a pipedream anyway, and it's just his management getting the media machine to do their work. I expect him to sign with the Swans.

[rjay 24,202]

I would love Malceski - a classy ball user running off half back, who can slot straight in? Who would honestly say "no thanks"? I reckon we need that more than we need compensatory draft picks - if nothing else, it buys time to a) find the next young gun to play the role, and b) develop said young gun properly rather than relying on him immediately. Malceski's age might be the only thing to throw that in doubt; if he was 2 years younger I'd take him without question, regardless of the Frawley outcome.

Surely this is all a pipedream anyway, and it's just his management getting the media machine to do their work. I expect him to sign with the Swans.

The young gun we missed through not having the draft pick 'Nasher'. No we don't give away a top 5 pick for Nick, if there's another way then sure but that would be a disaster if the club went down this path.

[Nasher 33,246]

The young gun we missed through not having the draft pick 'Nasher'. No we don't give away a top 5 pick for Nick, if there's another way then sure but that would be a disaster if the club went down this path.

If you'd said this to me 4 years ago rjay I'd have been nodding my head vigorously in complete agreement, but these days I question the benefit of hoarding early draft picks when you've (still) got far too few capable senior players to support them. We'd still have other early picks anyway; you're giving up one pick, not all of them.

How would you feel about Frawley staying? If you drag out your logic all the way to its conclusion, that is essentially giving away a top 5 pick as well.

[Axis of Bob 10,516]

Nasher, it's not just the player drafted with that top 5 pick. It's also whatever we could possibly trade that top 5 pick for. Using last year as an example, we could trade that pick for Dom Tyson and a late first round pick.

So the choice that is being made is (hypothetically):

- Frawley for Malceski + pick 40(ish), or

- Frawley for Tyson and pick 12(ish).

There are, of course, other ways of getting Malceski that don't include free agency. A deal like that was made by Port Adelaide and Essendon in the Monfries trade, involving later picks. We could, for example, trade a 3rd round pick for Malceski to preserve our own free agency pick, plus Sydney gets something too. Then it becomes:

- Frawley + pick 40 for Tyson, pick 12 and Malceski.

Edited July 19, 2014 by Axis of Bob

[Axis of Bob 10,516]

Ah, serves me right for only reading the last couple of posts!

[rjay 24,202]

If you'd said this to me 4 years ago rjay I'd have been nodding my head vigorously in complete agreement, but these days I question the benefit of hoarding early draft picks when you've (still) got far too few capable senior players to support them. We'd still have other early picks anyway; you're giving up one pick, not all of them.

How would you feel about Frawley staying? If you drag out your logic all the way to its conclusion, that is essentially giving away a top 5 pick as well.

Not the same as for a 30 year old with knee problems.

[Ted Lasso 17,318]

Was told today by my uncle who works at a TAC cup team and has some connections with a few Victorian AFL teams that Dylan Shiel will be on his bike back to Victoria at the first opportunity whether that be this year or next year, he also said Melbourne are very interested from what he is hearing and have a very good offer on the table and the picks to get the deal done.

[olisik 4,060]

They said on channel 7 that Viney was at the GWS game tonight.

[Jaded No More 60,181]

They said on channel 7 that Viney was at the GWS game tonight.

Please. Just please.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Please. Just please.

It was Jack Viney, apparently he is in talks with GWS.

Well, olisik didn't specify after all...

[dee-luded 2,958]

Was told today by my uncle who works at a TAC cup team and has some connections with a few Victorian AFL teams that Dylan Shiel will be on his bike back to Victoria at the first opportunity whether that be this year or next year, he also said Melbourne are very interested from what he is hearing and have a very good offer on the table and the picks to get the deal done.

well lets strike (a deal) while the Iron is Hot...

We need some power players for our mids plus class as well. Shiel is an inside player who'll carry the footy & deliver. lets have him quick, ahead of other clubs. his mates will follow.

The so called 'class', can follow the Grunt. I want the hardness bred into our jumper, then when the skinny boys arrive, they will have to put in, or not get a game. We don't want to again become like we were 8 Yrs back, when the stars wouldn't chase, & wouldn't tackle.

[rjay 24,202]

Tomlinson playing a good game tonight, wants to come back to Melbourne.

[Ted Lasso 17,318]

Tomlinson playing a good game tonight, wants to come back to Melbourne.

what's his trade value? I personally really rate him as a player

[rjay 24,202]

what's his trade value? I personally really rate him as a player

Not sure 'Mike'...he has some really good physical attributes but I don't think they have settled him in a position yet. I'm in the undecided camp at the moment, his first half tonight was good but watching the 3rd Q he really hasn't worked hard enough.

[spirit of norm smith 13,643]

Adam Tomlinson would be a huge get. I would give up a Frawley compo pick if that eventuated.

[KingDingAling 3,683]

I don't know what he'd cost, but throw the sink at Joshua Kelly.

Kelly is just class, doesn't waste much, absolute ball magnet.

I don't know why Cameron keeps playing Kelly as sub, he is nearly their best player.

Kelly does more in one quarter than Scully does in 3 games.

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,663]

Dylan Shiel.

Lock the thread.

[Lord Travis 10,327]

GWS have a few real quality young mids who are already impacting games. If we could poach one of Shiel, Treloar, Hoskin-Elliott, Coniglio and get a later first round pick back like we did with the Dom Tyson trade last year we'll be laughing.

[hulkhogan666 142]

I don't know what he'd cost, but throw the sink at Joshua Kelly.

Kelly is just class, doesn't waste much, absolute ball magnet.

I don't know why Cameron keeps playing Kelly as sub, he is nearly their best player.

Kelly does more in one quarter than Scully does in 3 games.

I guess you can't remember the games where he's had next to no disposals then...