Colin Sylvia is yet to decide if he will remain at Melbourne

[Dees2014 2,377]

I think it is more than reasonable that Colin should want to play finals football successfully in his career. His problem is that he would be no more than a fringe player in the like of the Swans, Hawks or Cats. he is no Jarrad Rivers. We would certainly not get a first round pick for him, more like third i would have thought on current form and unfulfilled promise over a whole career. Clearly, Roos sees potential as he does on much of our list, but that is all it is. Colin has very little value out there at the moment, and he should realise that in sides in the top four, no matter what they may say to him in getting him across.

He would be far better staying with us on say a three year contract, learn under Roos how to be an A-grader (which i have no doubt he could be), and play in the finals series next year or the year after and be part of a Premiership in 2016.

He will not get that at any other club.

One further note, the two years we have had priority picks, if Col leaves we will have one left - Jack Trengove. Scully, Mclean left, Sylvia potentially out the door. What does that say for the system, or more particularly the unique incompetence of the Melbourne Football Club.

Can we name any other club where that has occurred. I think not.

Edited September 9, 2013 by Dees2014

[gsmith12 491]

Experienced hard body who is still capable of turning a game.

Must retain.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

I think it is more than reasonable that Colin should want to play finals football successfully in his career. His problem is that he would be no more than a fringe player in the like of the Swans, Hawks or Cats. he is no Jarrad Rivers. We would certainly not get a first round pick for him, more like third i would have thought on current form and unfulfilled promise over a whole career. Clearly, Roos sees potential as he does on much of our list, but that is all it is. Colin has very little value out there at the moment, and he should realise that in sides in the top four, no matter what they may say to him in getting him across.

He would be far better staying with us on say a three year contract, learn under Roos how to be an A-grader (which i have no doubt he could be), and play in the finals series next year or the year after and be part of a Premiership in 2016.

He will not get that at any other club.

One further note, the two years we have had priority picks, if Col leaves we will have one left - Jack Trengove. Scully, Mclean left, Sylvia potentially out the door. What does that say for the system, or more particularly the unique incompetence of the Melbourne Football Club.

Can we name any other club where that has occurred. I think not.

You actually think we are only 3 years off a premiership? Excuse me...but...

[Grimseyisgod 378]

i'd love him to stay, i think most of us would.

But no point in him being there if he isnt willing to bleed for the club (metaphorically of course)

[Jaded No More 58,664]

Really curious to see if Roos is the man to finally get the best out of Col.

But if he goes, I won't cry myself to sleep.

Would rather spend the extra cash to extend Frawley's contract!

[beelzebub 22,269]

You actually think we are only 3 years off a premiership? Excuse me...but...

I already have to pay up on a bet 2 y ago that dees would be in GF in 2014

[beelzebub 22,269]

Really curious to see if Roos is the man to finally get the best out of Col.

But if he goes, I won't cry myself to sleep.

Would rather spend the extra cash to extend Frawley's contract!

Im sure Paul has a very genuine handshake.. Col will get one on the way out

[Disco Demons 92]

Put Paul Roos and Peter Jackson in the room with Colin. Surely that would be enough

[beelzebub 22,269]

Put Paul Roos and Peter Jackson in the room with Colin. Surely that would be enough

Just put Col Sylvia in a room with Col Sylvia....Im sure there enough admiration to go around

[Bitter but optimistic 21,399]

I have such a different perspective on both Watts and Sylvia now that Roos is in control.

Want both to stay. Partly out of wanting us to develop talent, partly just out of pure curiosity.

One needs a brain and the other needs a heart. This aint Kansas and I doubt Roos is the Wizard.

[stuie 7,374]

One needs a brain and the other needs a heart. This aint Kansas and I doubt Roos is the Wizard.

You could say the same about Kirk, Goodes, and Bolton under Eade, how did they end up as players after Roos took over?

Neither of Watts or Sylvia were taken in a surprise draft order, so they both obviously have talent. I don't know if you've heard, but we haven't developed our players very well....

Cute analogy though.

Edited September 9, 2013 by stuie

[Scipio 5,868]

Sylvia would be a big loss - we can't afford to let another senior player (and an okay one at that) depart.

I'd back Roos to help Col lift to a level we haven't seen from him before.

[beelzebub 22,269]

why is Sylvia big loss ? seriously

He performs off on off on off etc. By all reports he offers no leadership.

people still buying into 'potential '

what does he really do on the field thats either that wonderful or irreplacable ? Im interested !!

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,636]

Season's over and yet to decide? Goneski. Can't blame him, just like I couldn't blame Rivers before him.

Please don't compare him to Rivers.

Every time Rivers entered the field, he gave his all.

Nobody can accuse Col of that.

Rivers deserves to play finals, Col hardly deserves to play AFL. A hugely talented yet lazy unaccountable player who has made a living coasting through his career

[Cards13 9,117]

I think it is more than reasonable that Colin should want to play finals football successfully in his career. His problem is that he would be no more than a fringe player in the like of the Swans, Hawks or Cats. he is no Jarrad Rivers. We would certainly not get a first round pick for him, more like third i would have thought on current form and unfulfilled promise over a whole career. Clearly, Roos sees potential as he does on much of our list, but that is all it is. Colin has very little value out there at the moment, and he should realise that in sides in the top four, no matter what they may say to him in getting him across.

He would be far better staying with us on say a three year contract, learn under Roos how to be an A-grader (which i have no doubt he could be), and play in the finals series next year or the year after and be part of a Premiership in 2016.

He will not get that at any other club.

One further note, the two years we have had priority picks, if Col leaves we will have one left - Jack Trengove. Scully, Mclean left, Sylvia potentially out the door. What does that say for the system, or more particularly the unique incompetence of the Melbourne Football Club.

Can we name any other club where that has occurred. I think not.

Hhhmmm not sold on the 3 years to a flag but I assume you are still drunk after the Roose celebrations so will forgive.

I'm not sold he will stay, if I was him I'd go he has made more money than he should have career to date so go for a flag like Rivers. We would miss his mature body but not the end of the world from

where we are cing from.

The comment about the priority picks is just such a disgrace and a legacy that so many in our club need to carry with them. An amazingly poor development of players, culture and ability to get us over the top. Far out the Saints almost won a flag with the early picks they had!!!

[stuie 7,374]

why is Sylvia big loss ? seriously

He performs off on off on off etc. By all reports he offers no leadership.

people still buying into 'potential '

what does he really do on the field thats either that wonderful or irreplacable ? Im interested !!

It's just the Roos factor now I think.

I honestly was not fussed about losing Sylvia or Watts, but now the curiosity and hope has been rekindled.

[CBDees 3,162]

I would love to know Roos assessment of the current MFC players list. Sadly though that will never happen for obvious reasons.

IMO if a player really wants out then let them go, the key is to try and make them want to stay and the appoint of Roos as Coach will greatly assist in that area. Next step will be to win a few more matches.

Baby steps at this stage.

I would like Sylvia to stay but its up to him and the MFC if that is to happen.

Roos has said that he wants Watts and Sylvia to stay yet has been silent on most of the rest of the list. I supect both will stay and may both have higher regard for the opinion of Roos than that of the majority of Demonlanders.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Experienced hard body who is still capable of turning a game.

Must retain.

I can only think of two occasions where that has actually happened and one of those was against GWS early in the year.

I think "turning a game" is in with "Col has great potential.

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Sylvia would be a big loss - we can't afford to let another senior player (and an okay one at that) depart.

I'd back Roos to help Col lift to a level we haven't seen from him before.

If Roos can't convince him to stay and he is not focused on MFC then we should try and maximise our outcome from his departure.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

Sylvia would be a big loss - we can't afford to let another senior player (and an okay one at that) depart.

I'd back Roos to help Col lift to a level we haven't seen from him before.

I totally agree.

And I want to see a senior player actually leave the club on really good terms - not to end his career at another club or with angst directed at the club a la Junior, Rivers, Moloney, Yze, Robbo, Green, White, Bruce etc.

The way we've handled our senior players over the past 6 or so years has been absolutely bloody hopeless and it really highlights how poor the culture has been.

Geez I hope Sylvia re-signs and ultimately ends his career with this club.

[beelzebub 22,269]

Sylvia would be a big loss - we can't afford to let another senior player (and an okay one at that) depart.

I'd back Roos to help Col lift to a level we haven't seen from him before.

A senior player...more like a pensioner in his attitude.

He gives what to the club ? He may be older but Trenners has a more mature head on his shoulders

he has abilty and hes right up there with Toumpas in a potential gun

the reality is Sylvia is terribly average and a non start re leadership

To me hed be no loss if goes and a reasonable player if stays. Hes nothing anymore to get excited about..hes a better than a plodder ..thats all

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

The only players we exited harshly and incorrectly IMO were Junior and senior players like Green Rivers and Beamer that were grossly mismanaged by Neeld.

White, Yze, Robbo had been great servants of the club but were finished at the AFL level in 2008/09 and were told their time was up even if they could not see it themselves. The problem was that our terrible recruiting and development from 2000 onwards robbed us of any capable developing leaders to come through to assume the gaps left.

And even when we had Yze, Robbo and White at their peak, there were few real leaders past Neitz, Junior and Whelan (when fit). The culture has been issue since Lyon, Viney and others retired and we have struggled to cover or replace that.

[Scipio 5,868]

A senior player...more like a pensioner in his attitude.

He gives what to the club ? He may be older but Trenners has a more mature head on his shoulders

he has abilty and hes right up there with Toumpas in a potential gun

the reality is Sylvia is terribly average and a non start re leadership

To me hed be no loss if goes and a reasonable player if stays. Hes nothing anymore to get excited about..hes a better than a plodder ..thats all

I've been a long time critic of Sylvia and I still don't like him but the facts are these:

He is basically our second best midfielder, no matter what he 'might' have become. He is a senior figure and God knows we are lacking in those, especially ones who can actually put a half decent game of footy together, which Col can. If you check out his stats for the year I think you might be surprised BB. He is not going to be the superstar we all thought he could be but the point is he is one of our best now and we can't discard our better players as we have few enough as it is who are of AFL standard.

To add to that, one of the most important steps we have to take as a footy club is retaining senior players and treating them with a bit more respect, as Ron points out. Unless we can find a suitable replacement and then some, we should do what we can to hold on to him.

[Demon Dynasty 15,766]

One needs a brain and the other needs a heart. This aint Kansas and I doubt Roos is the Wizard.

Well there has yet to be a successful brain transplant that i'm aware of other than Frankenstein's monster and well.

I'm pretty sure we've had a few successful heart transplants though.

Look you never know..... and the reaction by Demon fans if this does take place, well i'm not sure, it might be something between ecstasy and jaw dropping disbelief a little like...

Edited September 9, 2013 by Rusty Nails

[beelzebub 22,269]

I've been a long time critic of Sylvia and I still don't like him but the facts are these:

He is basically our second best midfielder, no matter what he 'might' have become. He is a senior figure and God knows we are lacking in those, especially ones who can actually put a half decent game of footy together, which Col can. If you check out his stats for the year I think you might be surprised BB. He is not going to be the superstar we all thought he could be but the point is he is one of our best now and we can't discard our better players as we have few enough as it is who are of AFL standard.

To add to that, one of the most important steps we have to take as a footy club is retaining senior players and treating them with a bit more respect, as Ron points out. Unless we can find a suitable replacement and then some, we should do what we can to hold on to him.

Im not surprised at all. Actually this year hes tried a 'little bit more" almost to about 3/4 of his ability. Hes PROVED himself a very ably average player...Whoop'd de doo !!

[McQueen 17,864]

Two first year mature age draftees finished ahead of him in the Bluey. That says it all for me.

Let him go and use the funds on other players hopefully in the FA market and dip back into the mature age draftee pool.

He's a pretender and I won't be concerned if he goes a single iota.