Realistic Future Melbourne Coach

[PJ_12345 1,098]

Agree. Williams is some chance I would say.

What do people think about him?

Heard he is interesting to say the least. I know someone who works with him now at Richmond's VFL affiliate and says he is tough and has that 'left of centre' mind all great coaches have.

Also said that he might be past his time in regards to AFL footy.

I'm a little bit over tough guy coaches, doesn't seem to work with where we are right now - didnt work with DB and not working with MN.

If the players are struggling to to put in effort then maybe they need more of a coach they can relate and have more of a vested interest in.

High turnover, particularly at coach level, is never good for any organisation....

[Key Deefender 143]

I would also add Alistair Clarkson to the list. Out of contract with the Hawks at the end of this season and was seemingly approached before Neeld was appointed although he apparently denies this. He would be my first choice if available. He has the right mix of aggro and flair in his makeup and lifted Hawthorn from a basketcase to yearly contenders under his watch (including winning one). He has also had a working relationship with Todd Viney when Todd was an assistant coach at Hawthorn and they would likely be on the same page when it comes to all things football. He is also an ex Demon player although who knows where this sits within his mindset.

Edited May 28, 2013 by Key Deefender

[McQueen 17,864]

How anyone thinks Roos is a realistic future coach is beyond me. Don't get me wrong, I'd like him to coach (he's not my number 1 choice though), but I can't see him putting his ego on the line to take on the "hardest job in football".

For me, Eade is a realsitc target, followed by Mark Williams. Would be satisfied with either two, Eade probably has his nose in front, especially under a strong CEO and Head of Football Department (or whatever they are called). Eade coached best when his role was limited to just that, coaching, so it would be needed to be made quite clear about his role.

Notice how Eade never has a disrepectful thing to say about the club or anyone attached to it. I understand he shouldn't being in the job he's in but I get the feeling Rocket plays the game well and is leaving door wide ajar.

[MadAsHell 4,089]

For goodness sakes, Please forget Swooper. Should not even enter the equation.. 70 years of age .. Way out of touch with the modern AFLgame.. Shyte !! Where's Tom Hafey and Ron Barassi.. All great in their time but this club needs to get very serious... NOW !!

I agree the club does need to get serious and needs to appoint someone who's been there and done it all before.

But if the likes of Roos, Williams, Eade and Matthews say thanks but no thanks I'd certainly take Northey for a few years with a hand over rather then another rookie any day of the week.

I would also add Alistair Clarkson to the list. Out of contract with the Hawks at the end of this season and was seemingly approached before Neeld was appointed although he apparently denies this. He would be my first choice if available. He has the right mix of aggro and flair in his makeup and lifted Hawthorn from a basketcase to yearly contenders under his watch (including winning one). He has also had a working relationship with Todd Viney when Todd was an assistant coach at Hawthorn and they would likely be on the same page when it comes to all things football. He is also an ex Demon player although who knows where this sits within his mindset.

Was thinking of both Clarkson and Worsfold, but at this stage I can't see either of them leaving or being sacked by their chosen clubs so don't see them as realistic targets.

[The Chazz 4,077]

Heard he is interesting to say the least. I know someone who works with him now at Richmond's VFL affiliate and says he is tough and has that 'left of centre' mind all great coaches have.

Also said that he might be past his time in regards to AFL footy.

I'm a little bit over tough guy coaches, doesn't seem to work with where we are right now - didnt work with DB and not working with MN.

If the players are struggling to to put in effort then maybe they need more of a coach they can relate and have more of a vested interest in.

High turnover, particularly at coach level, is never good for any organisation....

Bailey? A tough guy coach?

[Key Deefender 143]

I agree the club does need to get serious and needs to appoint someone who's been there and done it all before.

But if the likes of Roos, Williams, Eade and Matthews say thanks but no thanks I'd certainly take Northey for a few years with a hand over rather then another rookie any day of the week.

Was thinking of both Clarkson and Worsfold, but at this stage I can't see either of them leaving or being sacked by their chosen clubs so don't see them as realistic targets.

Agree the "realistic" tag presents a roadblock for both Clarkson and Worsfold given where their clubs are at. However both are out of contract at season's end so depending on how their respective seasons finish given both have been at their clubs a long time, this may create some level of opportunity for a move to a fresh challenge. No one thought Ross Lyon would have been a realistic chance to coach Freo either at the time.

Edited May 28, 2013 by Key Deefender

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,534]

To be honest I just don't know much when it comes to coaches. I just want an experienced AFL coach who is not past it. I think the game evolves so quickly that if one is out of the game for to long they it may pass them and also some may be to old fashioned to adapt to the new game style. Ratten, Roos, Williams? - I don't know. Just get someone that is firm but loveable (Malthouse), Someone up to date with the modern game and a coach that wants to implement an exciting brand of footy (so opposite of Neeld then)

Loveable? Malthouse? I don't see it.

I'm always in favour of a coach who has had some relatively recent involvement as player, coach or assistant coach in an AFL premiership. Which would go against Matthew Knights (although in his favour is that he built the key building blocks of the Essendon list).

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

don't know .. but I do know that whoever it is will not be able to make Lemonade instantly and will therefore be crucified by all and sundry\

and around we go again

[Geddy Lee 582]

don't know .. but I do know that whoever it is will not be able to make Lemonade instantly and will therefore be crucified by all and sundry\

and around we go again

Yeah, it's really strange how angry we get at these guys with 20% winning percentages.

[cookies 4]

would it be too much of an issue to have both eade and williams? add in mathews in a part time role? in a world where money isn't an issue etc..

[PJ_12345 1,098]

would it be too much of an issue to have both eade and williams? add in mathews in a part time role? in a world where money isn't an issue etc..

Too many cooks spoil the broth.

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,078]

Paul roos benefitted from the ground work that Rodney ease put into Sydney. He revolutionized the game by nearly ruining it.

someone told me that the 'time is Plough' lol.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Agree the "realistic" tag presents a roadblock for both Clarkson and Worsfold given where their clubs are at. However both are out of contract at season's end so depending on how their respective seasons finish given both have been at their clubs a long time, this may create some level of opportunity for a move to a fresh challenge. No one thought Ross Lyon would have been a realistic chance to coach Freo either at the time.

Really we have to wait to then to see what all the options are I guess, question is what do we do in the meantime.

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,333]

For those who are talking about wanting Roos or dangling a too good to refuse offer at coach x. Maybe consider that we are about to post a $ 2 million loss and how you intend to pay them next year. All I want is for us to this time do our due dilligence and choose the coach who we think can best motivate and develop our list. In my mind there's just as much argument to say a great recently out of the game like Simon Goodwin or Scott Burns has as much hope as a figurehead like Roos, Eade or Williams.

[Kureemy 22]

I think Eade is the most realistic option but watching 'On the couch' the other week, it seemed Roos was lying. I reckon he has already been approached.

[3Dee 1,153]

We got the team, Yeah! the football machine to take us to the top, ooooooh to the top

John Northey for sure.

C'mon Demons

[reynolds46 823]

no candidate will show their hand while Neeld is still employed as it would be disrepectful to the Incumbent

[Bombay Airconditioning 5,987]

For those who are talking about wanting Roos or dangling a too good to refuse offer at coach x. Maybe consider that we are about to post a $ 2 million loss and how you intend to pay them next year. All I want is for us to this time do our due dilligence and choose the coach who we think can best motivate and develop our list. In my mind there's just as much argument to say a great recently out of the game like Simon Goodwin or Scott Burns has as much hope as a figurehead like Roos, Eade or Williams.

The AFL will have to come to the party.

[Mr Steve 3,820]

What a sad list.

[low down 21]

i think that of all the available coaches, Roos did the most with the least. his teams played pretty ugly footy though from memory. ross lyon sort of stuff.

Clarkson had has been lucky enough to coach a dreamteam for most of his tenure yet has managed one flag - its hard to be confident he'd achieve much with our list.

its a bit left field but i like Ratten. when his players weren't injured (they were smashed with injuries last year) he was a pretty reasonable coach who the players seemed to play for. like neeld he focused too much on every statistic but the win/loss column, but thats a bit the modern way and i tend to think a 'modern' yet 'experienced' coach might be the best way to go...

Edited May 28, 2013 by low down

[Satyriconhome 10,010]

The AFL will have to come to the party.

No they won't, imagine what a look that would be, any time a club finds itself in the same situation in the future, and it will happen, St KIlda say hi, they will expect the same

[Satyriconhome 10,010]

i think that of all the available coaches, Roos did the most with the least. his teams played pretty ugly footy though from memory. ross lyon sort of stuff.

Clarkson had has been lucky enough to coach a dreamteam for most of his tenure yet has managed one flag - its hard to be confident he'd achieve much with our list.

its a bit left field but i like Ratten. when his players weren't injured (they were smashed with injuries last year) he was a pretty reasonable coach who the players seemed to play for. like neeld he focused too much on every statistic but the win/loss column, but thats a bit the modern way and i tend to think a 'modern' yet 'experienced' coach might be the best way to go...

"i think that of all the available coaches, Roos did the most with the least. his teams played pretty ugly footy though from memory. ross lyon sort of stuff.".....I think that was because Lyon was Roos' midfield coach

[dee-luded 2,958]

2014.... Bomba Thompson for 2 years, with Ling as assistant, & midfield coach...

Black as skills coach.

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Edited May 28, 2013 by dee-luded

[Pirlo 527]

Realistically it's Eade for me.

Would like him Williams or Matthews.

[DemonOX 8,551]

No they won't, imagine what a look that would be, any time a club finds itself in the same situation in the future, and it will happen, St KIlda say hi, they will expect the same

Yes they will and it will be hush hush