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Why are people still bringing up Adams when he has CLEARLY said Melbourne is not in his destinations list. We were never going to get him and never will.

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Just like we were never going to get Roos

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It'd be a big call, GV.

I'd certainly give away pick 2 for Shiel. Actually, I'd add a sweetener if it got the deal done. Shiel is quality. Aish is also quality, but Shiel is mature and we know he can do it in the big time.

If Shiel is contracted, we might need to give a little bit extra to get the deal done.

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It'd be a big call, GV.

I'd certainly give away pick 2 for Shiel. Actually, I'd add a sweetener if it got the deal done. Shiel is quality. Aish is also quality, but Shiel is mature and we know he can do it in the big time.

If Shiel is contracted, we might need to give a little bit extra to get the deal done.

Put yourself in the shoes of GWS. Shiel has come to you expressing an interesting in heading back to Victoria. His manager informs you that Melbourne has put forward a very lucrative contract offer. You don't want to keep an unhappy player and see this as an opportunity to either get a mature player or spread the demographic of your young picks. What would you ask for? And what would you settle for?

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under no circumstances will tmac be traded. Far too important. Can think of about 20 blokes I would send first

Can we send them all at once?

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I think GWS would be looking for the flexibility of pick 2. They could use pick 2 to trade on to other clubs for players that they'd want.

I think that McDonald's value to us would be higher than GWS, purely from an off field/culture POV. I don't think that they'd be happy to do a swap of McDonald for Shiel.

From a Melbourne perspective, I would do the deal. I love McDonald, but I think that the ceiling of Shiel is far higher as a damaging, goal kicking midfielder is far higher. The problem is that I would find it very hard to release a really good person from our club when we are trying to build a strong culture.

If I was GWS I would be asking for Frawley.

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I think GWS would be looking for the flexibility of pick 2. They could use pick 2 to trade on to other clubs for players that they'd want.

I think that's probably right. If McDonald is the best we can/are willing to offer them, then they're probably more likely to want Pick 2, which will open doors to other clubs and other players which probably exceed McDonald's worth.

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Having McDonald made the transition easy when Rivers departed. He and Chip are both required to play on the big men, Garland again showed this year his flexibility to play on a number of differant types of players effectively. These three down back plus our forwards being fit are crucial to us being competitive. Now if Watts is in the midfield he's on a wing with Toumpas on the other so the Swans can stick their offer. I haven't seen a lot of Shiel but if he's good to go lets get him. We can become more competitive quicker than most think.

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You would assume "talks starting" really means we've been talking to Shiel's management for some time and we've offered him a pretty attractive contract and now it's a matter of whether GWS is prepared to let a contracted player leave.

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Fabulous...but... are they really that dumb lol

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Hope it's true and we can get something done.

Throw in Miles or Bugg...

I am greedy.

If we got greedy and GWS bit I'd love Bugg. Reckon he could really add something to our list.

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Just like we were never going to get Roos

Completely different scenario Mgdee. Roos didn't rule out coaching all year and actually chatted to us and showed intrest.. Adams Wants nothing to do with us at all. There are 5 clubs that are his preferred destination before Melbourne so highly doubt he will get through to 5 clubs before coming to us. Get this through your head if he doesn't want to even speak to us DONT bother with him then..

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