We miss you too Beamer!

[stuie 7,374]

This is a man who was shopping himself around halfway through last year. Good riddance.

Here comes the lynch mob, fresh from staking out pitch fork shops near McLardy's house...

He's not with us anymore, a move that in the circumstances was best for both player and club. Some respect for a Bluey winner is a bit too much to ask around here though I suppose, after all this is the den of delighted negativity, conspiracy theories, and buzz words.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

Here comes the lynch mob, fresh from staking out pitch fork shops near McLardy's house...

He's not with us anymore, a move that in the circumstances was best for both player and club. Some respect for a Bluey winner is a bit too much to ask around here though I suppose, after all this is the den of delighted negativity, conspiracy theories, and buzz words.

and wankers. You forgot wankers.

[stuie 7,374]

Judging by the above post, you're acknowledging that last year, up to 40 of our players didn't 'buy in'. By the way, Grimes and Tom McDonald had reasonable years. So we're up to 4.

So in summary, it was Moloney and about another 40 odd players who possibly didn't 'buy in'. 15 of those 40 were traded out, were delisted or left of their own volition.

Fair enough.

I now make all applicable references to the 'Coaching staff', stuie. Much safer ground

But Macca... "culture", and "elite compliance", and "reality buses".... Clearly Neeld is not the problem, I mean despite the 19% winning record and average losing margin of 107 points, he says really mean stuff that makes me think less of the players, so he MUST be good even though all evidence says otherwise...

Ironically, it's the ones who moan about "accepting mediocrity" that are supporting Neeld.

[Adam The God 29,354]

Glad he's gone. Simple as that.

[Macca 16,611]

But Macca... "culture", and "elite compliance", and "reality buses".... Clearly Neeld is not the problem, I mean despite the 19% winning record and average losing margin of 107 points, he says really mean stuff that makes me think less of the players, so he MUST be good even though all evidence says otherwise...

Ironically, it's the ones who moan about "accepting mediocrity" that are supporting Neeld.

By the way, I hope Moloney has a shocker tomorrow and is subbed off

[Chook 14,997]

Here comes the lynch mob, fresh from staking out pitch fork shops near McLardy's house...

He's not with us anymore, a move that in the circumstances was best for both player and club. Some respect for a Bluey winner is a bit too much to ask around here though I suppose, after all this is the den of delighted negativity, conspiracy theories, and buzz words.

Says the man who has a vendetta out against our coach. If it's a choice between lynching an ex-player and lynching our current coach, I know which one is more destructive.

[Gorgoroth 12,702]

Do we know how much Brisbane offered him?

What if it was 450k a year? Or 500k?

I'd rather us not try and match that, and we didn't.

[Dr. Gonzo 23,701]

Here comes the lynch mob, fresh from staking out pitch fork shops near McLardy's house...

He's not with us anymore, a move that in the circumstances was best for both player and club. Some respect for a Bluey winner is a bit too much to ask around here though I suppose, after all this is the den of delighted negativity, conspiracy theories, and buzz words.

Haha yeah but constantly trying to snipe and white-ant the coach isn't negative at all... Get a grip mate, you turn every thread into an anti-Neeld diatribe, this has nothing to do with Neeld it's a thread about Moloney yet you manage to find a way to snipe the coach again. We can respect a former player at the same time as acknowledging his deficiencies but you seem to think every player who left us since Neeld came on was the second coming of Barassi. There's no logic to your arguments at all other than you hate Neeld so any decision he makes is by default incorrect. There's a reason the club didn't care if Moloney left, doesn't mean he didn't have some redeeming qualities.

[Whispering_Jack 29,189]

Do we know how much Brisbane offered him?

What if it was 450k a year? Or 500k?

I'd rather us not try and match that, and we didn't.

Brisbane didn't offer him anything near that. The paltry compensation we got from the AFL for both Rivers and Moloney was partly based on the contracts they were getting at their new clubs. Brisbane wasn't prepared to pay big money for Moloney because they know his shortcomings. Hence, we got SFA for him. Same with Rivers.

Beamer was always capable of performing against weaker clubs and not so good against the stronger clubs. Last year, he had the wrong attitude, wanted out and had ... ahem ... some issues. I don't miss him at all. The club has to move forward.

Changing clubs doesn't necessarily make you a better player as Ricky Petterd proved last night. I like the bloke but he still has troubles hitting the proverbial barn door.

[rjay 24,592]

Jones is a better player than Moloney. Brent had his deficiencies but he was easily better than our 3rd best clearance player. Instead of having 2 reasonable clearance players we've now only got one (right now)

Magner started the season quite well last year and won plenty of his own ball. Next thing, the coaching department tried to turn him into a tagger. Now he's back to being a rookie and his career is at the crossroads. Remember the threads we had about him last year?

'rjay', I'm a great believer in 'Do what you do, do well'. Some blokes are only good at one thing in footy and it's highly unlikely that you can change them. You can end up spending a lot of energy on a totally fruitless exercise. You can't turn the 'proverbial' into strawberry jam !!

We've got plenty on our list who could do a lot better in the midfield but for whatever reason they don't. There's a bit of talent there but they don't produce.

I agree with you on this 'Macca', so then it opens up the question of 'do you build you game plan around the team' or 'do you build the team to fit your plan'.

Being a first year coach I suspect, well more than expect Neeld took the later approach and totally deconstructed what had gone before. A senior coach wouldn't have been so gung ho.

[Tim 3,346]

Went from our best midfielder in 2011 (20 Charlie votes) to playing for Casey by mid 2012.

A massive cross to Neeld on this subject.

No responsibility here to be shouldered by Mr Moloney?

[farmerwiz 60]

was too inconsistent for mine, bit of a downhill skier and never ran defensive. plus was always spotted at more nightclubs than he had tackles

good luck, no concerns from me he is gone

[mjt 640]

Good clubman, but he just refused to spread.

[mauriesy 7,155]

No responsibility here to be shouldered by Mr Moloney?

No, you should blame everybody except for the player.

[Sir Why You Little 36,628]

I don't miss Beamer at all. He should refund last years wage.

He purposely did nothing last year.

[Undeeterred 3,043]

Fair bit of revisionism going on here...

[P-man 13,366]

Because the coach moved his cheese.

Whether it was the right thing or not doesn't matter now. His attitude sucked balls when he should have manned up and lead by example.

For this reason I don't miss him a single iota.

Nail on head.

[Ted Lasso 18,780]

Great bloke, but he wasn't willing to buy in to our head coaches plans so he is out the door, it's really not that difficult to understand why he isn't here and i back the football departments choice to move him on.

[Deeoldfart 7,993]

"One trick pony" ......"Down-hill skier" ....... not a leaders "bootlace" ...... sullen and self-absorbed. If we are destined to ever have a future that we can be proud of, it sure as hell won't be built around players with those characteristics.

[stuie 7,374]

Says the man who has a vendetta out against our coach. If it's a choice between lynching an ex-player and lynching our current coach, I know which one is more destructive.

Fair call. I'll cop that.

[Bitter but optimistic 22,065]

Here comes the lynch mob, fresh from staking out pitch fork shops near McLardy's house...

He's not with us anymore, a move that in the circumstances was best for both player and club. Some respect for a Bluey winner is a bit too much to ask around here though I suppose, after all this is the den of delighted negativity, conspiracy theories, and buzz words.

Sounds normal enough to me!

[stuie 7,374]

Haha yeah but constantly trying to snipe and white-ant the coach isn't negative at all... Get a grip mate, you turn every thread into an anti-Neeld diatribe, this has nothing to do with Neeld it's a thread about Moloney yet you manage to find a way to snipe the coach again. We can respect a former player at the same time as acknowledging his deficiencies but you seem to think every player who left us since Neeld came on was the second coming of Barassi. There's no logic to your arguments at all other than you hate Neeld so any decision he makes is by default incorrect. There's a reason the club didn't care if Moloney left, doesn't mean he didn't have some redeeming qualities.

Ok, I see your pattern now. You deliberately misinterpret other people's posts to suit your own points you want to make.

To clarify:

-I never said Moloney was a great player, let alone compared him to Barassi.

-When talking about list changes surely it's fair enough to bring up the guy making the decisions.

-I've not said every one of Neeld's decisions are wrong, if you actually bothered to read my posts you would see I stated earlier that Moloney moving was the best thing for him and MFC.

[stuie 7,374]

"One trick pony" ......"Down-hill skier" ....... not a leaders "bootlace" ...... sullen and self-absorbed. If we are destined to ever have a future that we can be proud of, it sure as hell won't be built around players with those characteristics.

Or supporters that spew stuff like that about a best and fairest winner....

[Dr. Gonzo 23,701]

Ok, I see your pattern now. You deliberately misinterpret other people's posts to suit your own points you want to make.

To clarify:

-I never said Moloney was a great player, let alone compared him to Barassi.

-When talking about list changes surely it's fair enough to bring up the guy making the decisions.

-I've not said every one of Neeld's decisions are wrong, if you actually bothered to read my posts you would see I stated earlier that Moloney moving was the best thing for him and MFC.

No what you intimated was that I was incapable of forming my own opinion based on my own observations but rather was just bagging out an ex-player because of some statements made by the coach. I treated your posts with the contempt they deserved because you were incapable of discussing the matter on its merits.

[stuie 7,374]

I treated your posts with the contempt they deserved because you were incapable of discussing the matter on its merits.

Get a grip mate, you turn every thread into an anti-Neeld diatribe

It's clear you've got an anti-Neeld agenda (like your mates Hardnut and Tonatopia) so there's no point trying to point out the obvious to you.

Fact is, you've got no idea about this or any other topic I've seen you post on.

Go ahead and post some stupid pic though that seems to be the only way you have to compensate for your utter lack of basic football knowledge.

you can take your smart-arse [censored] and cram it.

This is how you discuss things "on their merits" is it?