farmerwiz

very nervous, ahhh the life of a dees supporter

i dont think lucas's problems were talent related, he had talent and was due to go top 30 in draft i tend to think there were a few other issues that had him quickly delisted or otherwise they would have worked with him longer ie - juice newton

and dawesy - good news considering hogan aint too far away

heard jamar n kent back in full training

I think its a good idea. The club is in good hands atm and everyone needs to focus on football.

last year our midfield was the worst of probably any side in the last 20 years, still is very average but Roos defensive gameplan might help Be good if we had some speed who werent youngsters or players who have apparently been going to do well for the last few years

fair call on matt jones, was pretty good and he should add depth to any midfield if he is our second best mid this year then we are in alot of trouble!

we wont because my opinion is based on stats and watching the last 5 years, yours is based on hope Lets hope he has a big year nevertheless

So my criticism of him not running hard enough, not tackling enough, not going hard enough, not being as intense as we would like is herald sun criticism? I would think its intelligent criticism based on stats and his last 5 years and developing into a frustrating player. I wonder sometimes what you go on about

Ridiculous comment that we give him credit for running 14km a game. If that was the case Tim Clarke would still be playing for Hawthorn as captain coach. Running is one thing, running with desire and hurt is another. Watts does the former. Will be happy to eat my words but after following football for many a year, i just cant see Watts becoming a mid gun, too many defiencies that relate to winning inside ball, gut running, tackling etc.

Think he prefers to display his passion on a keyboard than display the same passion supporting the club and people who make an effort.....anyways im just not a person who sees watts through rose coloured glasses. He isnt intense enough, doesnt tackle enough, isnt hard enough, doesnt gut run or go to the contest - all things he must learn to become a decent mid......he hasnt shown a tendency to get there after 5 years so we have to be realistic that he will be a good average player who occassionally does something brilliant. To say he will be much above that wouldnt be basing it on "history". Ive been to other teams training sessions and we just have too many key players missing chunks of pre season - just my opinion that when your a mediocre side you need alot going for you but we do have Roos!

players are the first too say they need a full pre season (prefer a cpl in a row), even more so if they were injured the year before or have missed chunks of footy (Dawes, Jamar, Clark, Viney, Gawn, Tappy) etc. My point is we have too many missing a full pre season which is frustrating as it limits personal and team excellence

Im hoping he does, his last 5 years have said he struggles mentally to gut run and put in 100% effort at all times. Lets hope it changes but as I mention it takes alot to change a blokes mindset and not being in the higher end for midfielders for fitness has me concerned that he will be able to gut run defensively as well as pressure, tackle etc. Jones does this because he has done it since under 10's for anyone that knows him

would have thought to date that watts hasnt displayed a great attitude for hard work, the contest, gut running, tackling which are all traits of a good midfielder.......he has more natural talent than luke hodge but hodge is the better player. Perhaps look at some of the traits i just mentioned and you will find your answer - pretty simple Has been dropped several times for the above mentioned factors - thats the reality and as for the history, watch his last 5 years Take off the rose coloured glasses

at the end of the day, Jamar hasnt done much playin or training in the last year or two and is on the decline after one good year in ten we want to be a good side and need gawn to step up and need to get another ruckman. Spencer wont make it from my thoughts, however Fitzpatrick and Clark could be good fill ins if gawn got fit

Also popped down to training today and I'm a bit half glass empty, points to note include:- *Casey Fields looks good * Watts - hasn't bulked up in body, has in arms. Will never be a star in the midfield as won't win enough contested footy but will be damaging on the outside. Those comparing him to Mundy are off the mark, Mundy played mid for years and has a strong inside game. I think we need to get our head around he will be an average to good player, not a star. Also wouldn't be that fit compared to most mids so be interesting to see if he can gut run defensively the way Roos likes, history and his attitude say unlikely * Cross' wage is paid off by his training standards, was disturbing that he was last on the track - where is everyone else? * JKH was impressive * Blease is frustrating, don't think he will make it as a mid, small forward due to his tank and he isn't fit enough to run defensive in the Roos game plan * reality is we have some issues heading in to the season. Viney, Clark, Dawes, Jamar etc all in best 22 and haven't played or trained much in last 12 months - ages away from being a good fitness base for all of them. for mine we have too many on reduced programs and am worried about that * Spencer is huge now, shame he can't kick or mark that well. Will always provide a contest * Howe is a great athlete, looks in top nick as does Dunny and Garland (underrated and should be VC, will provide great support to the captain) * Trengove is slow but you just want him to make it as he is a leader and great trainer, fingers crossed * Nicolson and Cross were practicing kicking, no surprises there * No Roos as yet * Michie an impressive size, think he will play a flank /mid position *Tyson moves well, looks good. Hard to tell how fit he is but just moves so well * Salem looks like he is not fit enough and has minimal muscle tone; dont expect him to play in 2014. Young mids need a full pre season and he stood out with his lack of physique * Toump looks good, future leader if he can play well *Pedo is fit, whether he fits in the gameplan will be interesting * Hunt is impressive, will be good in a couple of years That's about all I can remember.

they must be crazy and with due respect i struggle to comprehend how we get sponsors and always thought we have done an amazing job in this regard

well played! keep up the top work

casey players are better than the dees players - sad

plan - fix pathetic performing club when - yday easy job to do you would think

have enjoyed garland of late

he must be injured

just cant see us gettin near brissie who r on the rebound love to be wrong but cant see it

highly optimistic, i think it will be 15 goals

brissie on the rebound, we will get pumped today