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I dont see a statement anywhere?

Watch ABC report, a statement from the club is cited at the end of the report.

Posted

Reading the texts and the story, it's clear there's no evidence of anything other than Dank and Bates talking to each other....

I still say this could be all Bates doing and the club were in the dark about the details.

Let's just wait for actual facts before lynching more MFC people.

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How must our players feel. They all knew they were sitting on a ticking time bomb. What lies could the power brokers at Melbourne told them? Oh don't worry about the AFL they wont find out? Or we cleared it when them don't worry. I can certainly understand some reason for their insipid performances. They've been lied to continuously.

So it seems, have we.

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Reading the texts and the story, it's clear there's no evidence of anything other than Dank and Bates talking to each other....

I still say this could be all Bates doing and the club were in the dark about the details.

Let's just wait for actual facts before lynching more MFC people.

Even if that is the case, its gross negligence on the behalf of Mark Neeld, Neil Craig and co.

Posted

What, are you for real?

If you are asked a question and you answer it truthfully, then according to you, unless you volunteer other matters, you have lied.

I'm not sure if you're seriously trying to defend that position. I sure hope not.

First of all, it wasn't in answer to a narrowly framed question. It was an MFC statement. Something you'd hope would be conclusive and offer full and frank disclosure, not hide behind semantics and clever wording.

Secondly, if you don't want to call it a lie, then what should we call it? A half-truth? A misrepresentation? A misleading statement? The exact term doesn't matter - the effect and perception of it is the same.

Anyway, as I have said, I think the more likely explanation is that the author of those statements did not know of the true extent of Dank's involvement with the football club, due to lies told by the people he associated with within the club to the MFC administration when it came calling.

Posted

Even if that is the case, its gross negligence on the behalf of Mark Neeld, Neil Craig and co.

Agree with that. We're all guessing for now until the facts come out, I'm just trying to think of some other scenarios.

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AFL. Will. Unleash. Hell Cover up so often worse than the crime

That was a Tweet from Jon Ralph

I suspect tomorrow someone from the club will speak. Well I hope so. I suspect Andrew will have word with Don and Neeldy will again have to tell the players there is another investigation hang in there.

Apparently essendon didnt know of our connection with Dank until tonight. They are probably cheering that someone else is caught up in this.

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And I thought this club could not get any more disappointing, but as usual they excel at finding new ways to suck that little bit more of your soul.

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Posted (edited)

Are we the the other club who's program isn't going as well that is referred to in Essedons text messages?

Edit - the timing doesn't seem to align in that our involvement seems to have been more recent.

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I smell a shake down from Dank. His underworld cronies have told him to go into the business of blackmail and have suggested that MFC are a particularly soft target.

Dank would have said he has incriminating evidence and would have been told by MFC 'that's nice, we don't have any money'.

The next step in this conspiracy theory is the idea that Dank has incriminating evidence on other clubs and is using MFC (and EFC) as an example of what he will do if he isn't paid for silence.

Posted (edited)

http://www.lakesidesmc.com.au/staff/dr-dan-bates/

Compared to:

http://www.sportsmed.epworth.com.au/About/Dr-Andrew-Daff.aspx

Who's the experienced guy who works with the Essendon and Western Bulldogs doctors and the number 1 media doctor, and who's the guy interested in stem cell treatment and other fancy things. Hmmm

Interesting that Dr. Bruce Reid works with Andrew Gaff

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Posted

Thats the reason we let Daff and the other guy walk? WTF is wrong with this club?

That's what I heard.

Posted

1. Dank has released texts and now MFC looks like liars and cheats

2. MFC lied in statement from 5-Feb. He had links and we denied any involvement. Poor choice. God thing Schwab has gone. Others must follow.

3. Dan Bates must be sacked. Poor choice and should have come clean post the Bombers conference. He should have said "Yes. MFC had used bt belived all approved".

I run a business. Have a family. Make many many decisions. MFC are a shocking basketcase.

I love footy. I love MFc. But they (the people at the club) are very disappointing.

Dankers & Tankers. Bruise Free footy. Worse AFL Team ever. (I cannot argue right now). :(((((

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one has to wonder where these text messages came from, it is unlikely Danks would have spread them as this would only show to the world that he cannot be trusted to keep confidential matters to himself, hence ruining what ever chance he had at a career in sports medicine. I wonder if the AFL or someone else has leaked these messages as they should not be that easy for someone to get. it does take the pressure of essendon now. if it goes the same way as tanking essendon will be forgiven because they confessed, melbourne will be fined $500,000 for some stupid trumped up charge, ala tanking but not tanking findings.


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one has to wonder where these text messages came from, it is unlikely Danks would have spread them as this would only show to the world that he cannot be trusted to keep confidential matters to himself, hence ruining what ever chance he had at a career in sports medicine. I wonder if the AFL or someone else has leaked these messages as they should not be that easy for someone to get. it does take the pressure of essendon now. if it goes the same way as tanking essendon will be forgiven because they confessed, melbourne will be fined $500,000 for some stupid trumped up charge, ala tanking but not tanking findings.

big differences b/n us and the bombers.

1.The drugs taken by us and them

2.Approval sought from the governing bodies

3.Club Doctor used by us-weapon used by them

4.Waiver forms

5.The club directed Essenscum to take their sh!t/ it seems individuals from mfc requested their stuff through the doc.

Having said that-nothing stops a good ol' media circus .

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Posted

That's no longer the point; we denied it, it's amatuer hour again.

[censored] em all off.

Yep 'Robbie' I said something along the lines of hoping we were being truthful at the time it first came up about Dank and Melbourne. Past history concerned me then and it more than does now.

No matter if everything was above board there is no excuse for the deceit here and another reason why change had to happen at the club. Th sooner Jackson gets to the club the better but he has much more than 6 months work ahead of him.

Posted

Reading the texts and the story, it's clear there's no evidence of anything other than Dank and Bates talking to each other....

I still say this could be all Bates doing and the club were in the dark about the details.

Let's just wait for actual facts before lynching more MFC people.

Can't, on the face of it, see how Misson is not involved/in the know.....high performance manager.....hmmmmm

Posted

Bit of a long bow to draw but could this be affecting the players performance? Knowing this Sword of Damocles is hanging over their heads ready to drop after seeing whats happened at Essendon could have a bearing on their mindset. I dunno probably just hoping more than anything...

Hasn't had much detriment to Essendung's performances, in fact may have drawn them closer.

I agree with demondame that this would go a long way towards explaining their lacklustre performances. If true we as supported really need to get behind the players - paints a different picture that's for sure.

Let them have a quick look at the Bummes' response and get on with it!!!!!!!

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Can't, on the face of it, see how Misson is not involved/in the know.....high performance manager.....hmmmmm

I'm only saying "could", just trying to think of different scenarios til we know the full story.

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