Jesse Hogan WOW!

[tonatopia 278]

yes, on 3aw, they were talking about the afl possibly making an exception to allow hogan to be allowed on our last primary list lodgement in march. Apparently, if the case was taken to court, the afl would lose. An exemption was made for bate back in the day because he was 28 days too young. The afl allowed him to make the grade due to his physical maturity.

Here's hoping hogan plays round1.

The MFC should at least lobby the afl for an exemption.

[DEE fence 5,029]

Australian cricket scores or English cricket scores?

Think 'Gilchrist conquers the world' tsunami benefit match

[Swampfox 190]

I actually think Hogan will develop better within the VFL system than throwing him in the AFL Deep end

Neeld IMO has made a common sense approach in regards to younger players as soon as he walked in the door

We all know we are not premiership contenders and waiting 22 games might be strategically the best decision for player, coach and club

[rpfc 28,544]

yes, on 3aw, they were talking about the afl possibly making an exception to allow hogan to be allowed on our last primary list lodgement in march. Apparently, if the case was taken to court, the afl would lose. An exemption was made for bate back in the day because he was 28 days too young. The afl allowed him to make the grade due to his physical maturity.

Here's hoping hogan plays round1.

The MFC should at least lobby the afl for an exemption.

No they shouldn't.

And Bate was exempted pre-being drafted.

Just let the kid follow the system that the three other boys followed and get him to start strong in 2014.

[Josh 1,420]

I actually think Hogan will develop better within the VFL system than throwing him in the AFL Deep end Neeld IMO has made a common sense approach in regards to younger players as soon as he walked in the door We all know we are not premiership contenders and waiting 22 games might be strategically the best decision for player, coach and club

Couldn't agree more. Let him have 2 full pre seasons and a year of VFL before his first AFL game. Couldn't think of better perpetration. Hold him back make him hungry make him chomp at the bit to get out on the big stage

[Nasher 33,616]

yes, on 3aw, they were talking about the afl possibly making an exception to allow hogan to be allowed on our last primary list lodgement in march. Apparently, if the case was taken to court, the afl would lose. An exemption was made for bate back in the day because he was 28 days too young. The afl allowed him to make the grade due to his physical maturity.

There's absolutely no way this would ever fly, and we'd piss people off in the process of trying. Imagine that: the AFL rules decree him ineligible for the draft, we take him through the trade/mini draft system, then he's allowed to play as a normal draftee would. The other clubs would crucify AFL house.

I'm all for using "innovative" ways to gain a competitive advantage, but trying to circumvent the rules isn't the way.

[Yossarian 1,820]

Liked what FootyRhino had to say about him:

"Settle down fantasy coaches, you can’t touch Jesse Hogan
for another 12 months. If I’m Mark Neeld, I’m shoving the 18 year old
in a dimly-lit room, with just a bench press, a mirror and a picture of
Jonathan Brown circa 2007. Every now and then, I’d slide a live cow
under the door with a hack saw and a blow torch. Hogan already weighs
100kg and was super impressive in Friday night’s games; it looks like
Melbourne might have a game-changer on their hands."

[Hannibal 5,814]

Should the MFC tackle this situation ? Of course not.

Would Hogan be better off playing VFL for a year or AFL ? AFL. But we happily live with what we've got.

[Roost It 1,434]

Finally we have the player we need

[McQueen 17,865]

We just have to forget the nickname "Hulk" It's just so Corn ball.

What about the "Beast"?

It gets us away from a cartoon character and more into the type of attitude we want in a player.

Hulk - smash.

Smash Hogan.

[tonatopia 278]

Remember brad green.

He won a final for us in his first year.

Keeping hogan in cotton wool is soft.

If the kid can play, let him play.

If the afl can let it happen without too much fuss, then bring it on.

Contrary to popular belief, we are aiming to make finals, hogan may be the difference, especially considering Mitch's issues.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

come on you lot, let's hose it down a bit - yes he looks good but we are talking about a total of 6 incidents in a praccy match. I have seen too many 'potential stars' come and go at this club. I don't think we are doing anybody any favours by talking him up so much so early. I'll be keeping an eye on his year at Casey though, there's a club that are probably pretty pleased with Tom Scully and GWS at the moment!

[old55 23,626]

Scott McMahon is a 26yo defender who has played 106 games. He is also 184cm/88kg giving away 12cm and a similar amount in kilos to Hogan.

North either thought McMahon may run off him, liked his chances when the ball hit the ground or didn't pay too much attention to the mismatch. Whatever way you read it he is not a top key defender

Will be interesting to see if Port pay him more respect next week

He'll get the 3rd tall defender initially - the Jack Darling effect. That would be Watts, Dunn or Garland against us and I rate our tall defence. I think North's tall defence is their biggest weakness but they're not the only side without 3 capable tall defenders. One thing I liked in the North game was 2 or 3 defenders flying against Chris Dawes, add Mitch and Jesse and there's all sorts of problems for them.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

There's absolutely no way this would ever fly, and we'd [censored] people off in the process of trying. Imagine that: the AFL rules decree him ineligible for the draft, we take him through the trade/mini draft system, then he's allowed to play as a normal draftee would. The other clubs would crucify AFL house.I'm all for using "innovative" ways to gain a competitive advantage, but trying to circumvent the rules isn't the way.

Spot on. We knew the rules when we got him.

[beelzebub 23,380]

2013 is a development year for the team as a whole. It will need to gel. it will ( hopefully ) get better as time progresses and we will go into 14 with a real sense of having a team.

13 will I sense have its share of pain, but tempered with progress.

if I could id just wake up this time next year.

Hogan will be fine in 14...he isnt ALLOWED to play this year.. just get over it . we have our fair share of idiots here dont we.

[rpfc 28,544]

Remember brad green.

He won a final for us in his first year.

Keeping hogan in cotton wool is soft.

If the kid can play, let him play.

If the afl can let it happen without too much fuss, then bring it on.

Contrary to popular belief, we are aiming to make finals, hogan may be the difference, especially considering Mitch's issues.

We are not equivalent to the Demons of 2000.

Hogan was always going to be 'in cotton wool' as stipulated by AFL rules.

How it is 'soft,' I have no idea...

The kid is not allowed to play, the AFL will keep all 4 underage players from playing (2 of them have already spent a year on the sidelines).

We may be 'aiming' for finals, but we certainly don't look capable of making finals, and an 18 year old will certainly not be the difference.

[Dockett 32 1,239]

Finally we have the player we need

And something exciting to talk about. Reckon Viney , Toumpas and a couple of others might start turning the lights back on.

[Ted Lasso 19,526]

I wonder how many people think we payed overs for hogan now? would have been happy to fork out pick 1 for him on what i've seen.

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

I wonder how many people think we payed overs for hogan now? would have been happy to fork out pick 1 for him on what i've seen.

You would think he would have gone top 3 pick in next years draft maybe pick 1. He would have dominated against kids this year. Thank god the MFC had the smarts to get him.

[rpfc 28,544]

I wonder how many people think we payed overs for hogan now? would have been happy to fork out pick 1 for him on what i've seen.

Yes, we were arguing over the difference between Pick 3 and Pick 4.

Because we are idiots.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

GC would want to hope that Jack Martin turns out to be a star because Hoges to me looks as sure a thing as you can get- where Martin has years of development to go before he can make an impact.

Cost us pick #3 which ended up being inconsequential as pick #4 netted us the Toumpas. Initially I was upset we didn't get Wines because I was sold on the Viney/Wines combo but I wasn't crying about that for too long. Toumpas is what we need; speed, skill and poise.

Viney at #26 was the icing.

The "Norm Smith curse" is a myth.

[rpfc 28,544]

The "Norm Smith curse" is a myth.

It's more of a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

It's an "escape goat" lol

[Dr. Gonzo 24,235]

GC would want to hope that Jack Martin turns out to be a star because Hoges to me looks as sure a thing as you can get- where Martin has years of development to go before he can make an impact.

Cost us pick #3 which ended up being inconsequential as pick #4 netted us the Toumpas. Initially I was upset we didn't get Wines because I was sold on the Viney/Wines combo but I wasn't crying about that for too long. Toumpas is what we need; speed, skill and poise.

Viney at #26 was the icing.

The "Norm Smith curse" is a myth.

Norm's home now, the curse is dead. B)

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

I hear and understand the calls for calm when it comes to hogan. But I'm sick to death of hearing tiger supporters bang on about their midfield and other supporters bang on about their team. I'm telling people hogan will [censored] all over them. I know I should stay calm but it's not like the MFC has thrown up much else to get pumped about. Tanking,186,scully and SFA wins has been the talking point of this club for too long.