Viney vs Wines

[The Red Fox 216]

Simple question for discussion, who is actually the better prospect among the two?

My assumption has been that Viney was the man - but given he wasn't nominated until pick 7(?) and Wines is touted to go (to us) at pick 4, is there an argument to say otherwise?

Both are old fashioned, hit the pack hard, win the football types - but who has done it better?

[H_T 3,043]

It's a good question, and whilst I've seen more of Viney, I honestly don't know. They are both inside hard nuts and Jack appears to be quicker. My assumption, like yours has also been that Viney was the man, but I reckon there would be an argument to say otherwise. From what I've seen of Wines he maybe a more composed (with more time) type player.

[Alcho Dee 269]

Viney. Son of a gun

[dee-luded 2,959]

Simple question for discussion, who is actually the better prospect among the two?

My assumption has been that Viney was the man - but given he wasn't nominated until pick 7(?) and Wines is touted to go (to us) at pick 4, is there an argument to say otherwise?

Both are old fashioned, hit the pack hard, win the football types - but who has done it better?

Both similar hard at it inside type ball winners, both rated in the top 8 of the draft.

Hard to make a call sight unseen without 20/20 hindsight.

[Tony Tea 2,806]

Simple question for discussion, who is actually the better prospect among the two?

Which one has been in more trouble?

[beelzebub 23,313]

Both like a one ton ute with serious grunt.

We can use at least two utes. What does it really matter ?

[Mallee Bull 97]

I would have thought that Wines would have the potential to be the superior player due to his height. If they are both ferocious on-ballers, but one can drift forward and take marks......

Edit: Wines has 10 cm and 10 kilos on Viney...

Edited November 14, 2012 by Mallee Bull

[beelzebub 23,313]

lets just say theyre salt n pepper....go together like a horse and carraige..etc etc etc

each on own...very bloody handy.. but

well we all know what damage Park Lane and Mayfair do !! ( might take some a whiles to get that one lol )

essence.. sum is greater than the parts. and fmd...look at the parts !!

We really arent going to recognise this team !!

( there IS a god after all )

[Lord Travis 10,699]

I would have thought that Wines would have the potential to be the superior player due to his height. If they are both ferocious on-ballers, but one can drift forward and take marks......

Edit: Wines has 10 cm and 10 kilos on Viney...

But then to counter that, Viney has better skills and is quicker and more agile. I'd rate Viney higher because of that.

[Mallee Bull 97]

But then to counter that, Viney has better skills and is quicker and more agile. I'd rate Viney higher because of that.

Indeed. Time will tell I guess. I'll settle for them both being equally awesome.

[ILLDieADemon 804]

I would have to say Viney, he was been developing with MFC for a year now.

[McQueen 17,864]

I think one thing is certain provided Wines is drafted.

If there is a scrap and one of them is in it, the other will not be far behind carrying flying the flag. These two are already capable of holding their own in that regard.

I realise that some of the other threads speak about how O'Rourke might be a better option given his perceived superior skills but, the idea of hard as nails onballers, stoppage specialists, ferocious tacklers and fearless competitors just really floats my boat.

I would be a very happy Dee's supporter to see these two young men both wearing the Red and Blue next season and feeding off one-another.

Who is the better player? I'm not sure. But the two of them together will foster a culture of high performance that Neeld is striving for. Neeld knows that and it is why I'm convinced we will take Ollie Wines at #4.

Ed: for the purposes of a mixed metaphor/analogy of which I should have known better.

Edited November 14, 2012 by McQueen

[binman 42,702]

Who is the better player? I'm not sure. But the two of them together will foster a culture of high performance that Neeld is striving for. Neeld knows that and it is why I'm convinced we will take Ollie Wines at #4.

I totally agree Steve. I think there is an enormous upside to having two close mates who sound like they have been pushing the other for years. The fact they are both mids is also a plus as they will be playing side by side. Warrior types that Neeld loves and these two boys will fly the flag for each other should it become necessary. I am positive that if they can get him they will.

[tappysquads 618]

I would have to say Viney, he was been developing with MFC for a year now.

Exactly why I would say wines is currently better!

[Matt Demon 1,418]

Very hard to say at this stage but from what I've seen Viney seems to have that burst speed & looks to spread quickly from the contest. Wines is obviously a threat going forward as he is a decent grab and finishes well. I honestly can't separate them at this point.

[Grimseyisgod 378]

I actually think Wines is a tad better.

But who cares, if we get both..

Cannot wait for the "explosions" that are going to eventuate between these two guns out of the centre.

Gives me shivers down my spine

[dee-luded 2,959]

lets just say theyre salt n pepper....go together like a horse and carraige..etc etc etc

each on own...very bloody handy.. but

well we all know what damage Park Lane and Mayfair do !! ( might take some a whiles to get that one lol )

essence.. sum is greater than the parts. and fmd...look at the parts !!

We really arent going to recognise this team !!

( there IS a god after all )

let me see, I'll take a 'chance', do I get $200.00 ?

& just maybe, our developing midfield + coaches

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Edited November 16, 2012 by dee-luded

[DemonWA 3,932]

well we all know what damage Park Lane and Mayfair do !! ( might take some a whiles to get that one lol )

[DemonWA 3,932]

Cannot wait for the "explosions" that are going to eventuate between these two guns out of the centre.

Gives me shivers down my spine

[saka888 54]

Wines "vs" Viney??? how about Wines "&" Viney ?

[Biffen 12,940]

Lets just pray to the great injury fairy to bugger off from these blokes for their whole career .

[Hannibal 5,814]

I actually think Wines is a tad better.

But who cares, if we get both..

Why ?

Viney is quicker, a better kick, a better sidestep, harder at the contest...

As i said, why ?

[Grimseyisgod 378]

Why ?

Viney is quicker, a better kick, a better sidestep, harder at the contest...

As i said, why ?

Becuase i am not sure where i read it, but Wines has exceptional disposal and i read that it was his speciality.

But i think im just comparing apples with apples

[tappysquads 618]

Wines "vs" Viney??? how about Wines "&" Viney ?

2013, scully receives floating handball well outside the pack away from the scary contest, from the left at full tilt viney, from the right wines, bang! Trenners mops up to grimey, who hits Clark at chf, feeds off to Rodan who dances 3, then puts it down dawesys throat!

[Deeoldfart 8,005]

I don't want to split them. Circa 2015 and beyond ....... the best midfield duo in the AFL ........ that would do me nicely thanks very much (who wouldn't want J. Selwood & Mitchell heading up their mids?). Fingers crossed that Wines comes our way!