Liam Jurrah: charged, on bail and discussion closed for now

[gOLLy 401]

This dosent come close to Troy Broadbridge.

[Biffen 12,380]

The guy could have been defending himself for all we know .Keep a lid on your assumptions Dees .He's still one of us .

[nutbean 8,837]

I would absolutely tell him he has no place at the club even if he 'just got caught up in the brawl', even though Im not quite sure what 'just getting caught up' in a machete fight entails.

So what you are saying is you would make a judgement without knowing the facts.

[olisik 4,060]

I don't have the will to tear this post apart at the moment but I urge people to reject this view and await further news before communal damnation.

Its easy to always take the high and mighty approach and say support support support but at the end of the day, the hard decisions need to be made to be successful.

How would potential sponsors for FOJ feel about this for example if they found out the club were supporting a criminal (god forbid he is found guilty, this is just a hypothetical)

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Schwab on SEN now.

[timmy 29]

Listen to this for some context and understanding - Charlie King: http://chirb.it/O1z82v

[daisycutter 28,639]

Sadly, there are times when I feel ashamed to be a Demonlander

Time for a few posters to either shut-up or grow-up

[rpfc 27,591]

Its easy to always take the high and mighty approach and say support support support but at the end of the day, the hard decisions need to be made to be successful.

How would potential sponsors for FOJ feel about this for example if they found out the club were supporting a criminal (god forbid he is found guilty, this is just a hypothetical)

FOJ sponsor?!

We have a Demon in jail and you want to talk PR?!

Just stand by him until the time we have to let him go.

What does our club stand for?

I guess we are about to find out.

[rpfc 27,591]

Sadly, there are times when I feel ashamed to be a Demonlander

Time for a few posters to either shut-up or grow-up

I have no idea why olisik 'liked' this post, to me, DC has olisik in the crosshairs with this post.

[Arrow 1,257]

So, DL7 do you feel better now that you have hopped onto your little soapbox and pontificated

This is so tragic (and still only limited facts known) but you can't wait to jump into the limelight.....FMD

Completely unfair there I am hurting as much as every other supporter.

I can not advocate the actions of what happened on Wednesday night and I don't think anyone would; was simply stating that Liam should have done a better job to remove himself from these situations and if he does and I'm sure he will stay on with the MFC will need to do so in the future.

Never miss an opportunity to pot though do you.

[PaulRB 5,985]

Cam's done the club proud with his press conference.

[olisik 4,060]

FOJ sponsor?!

We have a Demon in jail and you want to talk PR?!

Just stand by him until the time we have to let him go.

What does our club stand for?

I guess we are about to find out.

obviously you didn't see the word 'hypothetical' in brackets there.

in some situations your saying don't jump to conclusions when your doing that exact thing right there.

Jumping to a conclusion that i want to talk about PR when it was simply used as a hypothetical. Seriously, grow up.

[Forest Demon 4,681]

Cameron Schwab spoke excellently and did the club proud.

The club obviously think a lot of Liam Jurrah the person, and are sticking by him.

[Sir Why You Little 34,700]

Well said from our CEO. This will be a long journey this one.

[Arrow 1,257]

Cam's done the club proud with his press conference.

Absolutely did. This was his best.

Spoke about how much credibility Liam has for all the work he has done, spoke about how we'll be trying to bring him back tonight and didnt shirk a question.

Absolutely brilliant.

[Jaded No More 58,674]

For those of us stuck at work and unable to listen to SEN, what did he say?

When do they expect Jurrah, or do they in fact expect Jurrah to return to Melbourne (the city not the club)?

[Nasher 33,133]

For those of us stuck at work and unable to listen to SEN, what did he say?

When do they expect Jurrah, or do they in fact expect Jurrah to return to Melbourne (the city not the club)?

+1. A transcript would be nice if anyone is feeling _reaaaaaalllly_ generous.

[BennytheJet 15]

So what you are saying is you would make a judgement without knowing the facts.

Im not passing any personal, social or moral judgment on what has occurred with Liam - which you would see if you could progress past the opaque and obvious inclination of many here to attempt to imply some sort of barbaric or ignorant theme into what I have written, and then conveniently get 'up in arms' with a whole host of sanctimonious expressions.

To summarise my views:

- MFC is a business, and very recently a struggling one at that (some would say its by no means out of the woods)

- We are struggling for sponsorship and membership

- a player (not an aboriginal - that is incidental) has requested personal leave whilst injured and before the start of a very important season for the club

- this player has been arrested, and charged, with possession, intent, and causing serious injury with a machete

- being charged with a criminal offence, NOT PROVEN, is cause for summary dismissal in nearly all employment relationships

- accordingly, MFC should and I have no doubt will, one way or another, bring an end to its employment relationship with this player at the appropriate time. I support this.

- the financial ramifications for the MFC as a result of this could be catastrophic.

- I wish this player the best and hope he comes through it as best as can be hoped.

It will be interesting to see how the club handles this given its recent spouting of 'no-nonsense' and 'elite preparation and expectations of players' which is purported to be some sort of panacea to our listlessness and inconsequential existence in the league which has been the hallmark of recent eras.

Edited March 8, 2012 by BennytheJet

[Arrow 1,257]

+1. A transcript would be nice if anyone is feeling _reaaaaaalllly_ generous.

I've got it recorded give me 10 minutes and I'll type it up.

[bing181 8,200]

+1. A transcript would be nice if anyone is feeling _reaaaaaalllly_ generous.

- we're sending a couple of guys up there at the moment, along with Bruce MacKinnon

- Liam is well supported at the club, Craig Lees was mentioned

- no problems with Liam at Melbourne, with his attitude or application

- Josh Mahoney and Craig talking to the other players

- Liam also supported by the other indigenous players

- don't really know anything specific of the events of the last 24 hours

- haven't spoken to Liam yet

Maybe others can chime in ...

[Face Your Demons 175]

The most important thing in all of this is Liams welfare. The club comes a poor second.

[olisik 4,060]

Im not passing any personal, social or moral judgment on what has occurred with Liam - which you would see if you could progress past the opaque and obvious inclination of many here to attempt to imply some sort of barbaric or ignorant theme into what I have written, and then conveniently get 'up in arms' with a whole host of sanctimonious expressions.

To summarise my views:

- MFC is a business, and very recently a struggling one at that (some would say its by no means out of the woods)

- We are struggling for sponsorship and membership

- a player (not and aboriginal - that is incidental) has requested personal leave whilst injured and before the start of a very important season for the club

- this player has been arrested, and charged, with possession, intent, and causing serious injury with a machete

- being charged with a criminal offence, NOT PROVEN, is cause for summary dismissal in nearly all employment relationships

- accordingly, MFC should and I have no doubt will, one way or another, bring an end to its employment relationship with this player at the appropriate time. I support this.

- the financial ramifications for the MFC as a result of this could be catastrophic.

- I wish this player the best and hope he comes through it as best as can be hoped.

It will be interesting to see how the club handles this given its recent spouting of 'no-nonsense' and 'elite preparation and expectations of players' which is purported to be some sort of panacea to our listlessness and inconsequential existence in the league which has been the hallmark of recent eras.

Couldn't have said it better

[olisik 4,060]

Who is saying that the club cant support him while he is not on the list?

I am quite sure that the club still keeps in contact with Wona and would support him if he needed anything.

[jayceebee31 671]

As WJ stated we need to watch what we say re this complex problem.All I want to say from C.S.'s comments were we,MFC were strongly sticking together ,supporting him in every way we can.I feel that we all should just support Liam as best we can even in our thoughts and leave it to others to work through these issues.Furthermore, I hope this will be a spur tomorrow night and the current season itself.

[nutbean 8,837]

When the club embraced Yuendumu when Liam first came to our club the outpouring of support from us was wonderful. The spirit of generosity was obvious to all. I did not read one negative opinion.

So my question is - did we embrace just the fluffy story of the aboriginal boy from outback Australia making good ?

Now the going is tough we need to ask ourselves - did we embrace just the good bits of Liam story or do we support Yuendumu community, its problems and its most famous son warts and all.

I have no idea what has gone down and will wait for facts. What I do know is that the lifestyle I lead sitting comfortably in Caulfield is light years away from what is happening in the Northern Territory.

What I do know is that what is going on in the Northern Territory is tragic and transcends sport and my beloved MFC.