The "Locker Room" board

[old55 22,996]

I suggested that we should have a separate board with a separate thread for each player so conversation can be conducted there in a continuous and "on-topic" manner. Mods apparently think it's unworkable but IMO what's really unworkable is that other threads (training thread) are getting closed because they veer off to discuss (usually the same) players in detail.

[Damo 3,282]

Interesting debate is good to watch and can be stimulating to be involved in, but some posters seem to bark at each other every 5 minutes without refreshing input.

Would it be worthwhile for the Mods to do this when we are only a month away from match reviews?

[Roger Mellie 3,900]

How would it work?

Would mods shunt their posts to relevant player thread?

I assume they would have to as posters usually ignore requests to get back on topic and continue to bang on about player x or themselves.

[Jordie_tackles 354]

I like,

If other posts get off topic, delete posts, and tell them to address the issue in the appropriate area.

May encourage further discussion, in the right area.

[Nasher 33,607]

I suggested that we should have a separate board with a separate thread for each player so conversation can be conducted there in a continuous and "on-topic" manner. Mods apparently think it's unworkable but IMO what's really unworkable is that other threads (training thread) are getting closed because they veer off to discuss (usually the same) players in detail.

I wouldn't say "mods" think it's unworkable, I'd say that was just my opinion. Happy for others to have the discussion, at the end of the day I'll just go with the flow.

[H_T 3,038]

I don't think it's unworkable. I'm in favour of giving things a go and if they work out all well and good. If not, they can always be moved to the main board.

old55, are you suggesting past players as well ? Or just locking in the current list ?

As it stands when the reviews come out, some get pinned for a short time and then they drop off when discussion is reduced to a treacle.

So I gather what you're wanting is a locker room (containing a thread for each Mfc player) to refer to historical discussion on them (on topic) for the whole season ? Is that right or beyond that timeframe ?

[Thrice 216]

Put me down for a +1 for the Locker Room.

ology develops threads on individual players (not and offical board, mind) and it results in fewer hijacks. There's a great one on Morton

[old55 22,996]

I don't think it's unworkable. I'm in favour of giving things a go and if they work out all well and good. If not, they can always be moved to the main board.

old55, are you suggesting past players as well ? Or just locking in the current list ?

As it stands when the reviews come out, some get pinned for a short time and then they drop off when discussion is reduced to a treacle.

So I gather what you're wanting is a locker room to refer to historical discussion for the whole season ? Is that right or beyond that timeframe ?

I'm suggesting it runs permanently. I think it would be organic - present players would become past players on the board and discussion could continue - the Scully thread anyone? There'd be no reason we couldn't start the Robbie Flower thread in there though. I think the Garland thread would provide amusing reading if it had been running since he was drafted.

If the threads get too long then we split them every thousand posts - we'd be up to "Cale Morton - Part 14" by now I suspect, but I unless there's some system problem with huge threads then I think it's better to keep eveything in one place even if they do get to 300 pages - you can just read the bits you want - and if you want to go back and find where I said "Tapscott is over-rated" it would be a lot easier.

If there's an official season review that could be dropped into the thread.

Mods would have some post moving to do to keep threads on track and there'd no doubt be vitriol in the threads that need cleaning up, so it does put extra load on them.

Edited January 31, 2012 by old55

[Slartibartfast 16,937]

I think I suggested this when the forum first started but it either didn't happen or it didn't work.

The lines become blurred when discussing a game and the players performance in that game. If it develops like the Morton bashing has it can derail the thread but if it's part of the general comment on the game it's appropriate.

Have you got any ideas on how this "locker room" works on other forums Old or how we deal with these sort of issues. I must say that as a Mod I can see a lot of work being generated with this idea.

Having said all that I'm for the idea and having read the forums in the last few days I'm attracted to the idea of limiting peoples input. Some just post the same thing far too much thinking that if they keep saying it they are either right or win the debate. Usually nothing is further from the truth.

[DemonWA 3,889]

its worth a try, but i dont think it will stop people from hijacking training or match reports with rants about specific players.

[DEE fence 4,963]

+ 1 for a locker room, for the mods I agree this a huge amount of work. What I would humbly suggest is that if a match review mentions a particular player that it is linked or indexed to the player profile so that when you click on the player you can see an index of match reviews he's mentioned in. This might be what is planned already but it could quickly become a valuable living history.

Perhaps if the writer of the match review could list the players with some sort of hash tag so that the forum automatically 'sweeps' them into the index, saving some work for the mods.

Also can the like/dislike button be set up so that a quick summary of posters who agree with sentiments can be listed with the initial post saying 'morton rubbish', it would save much scrolling through pages

[Yossarian 1,820]

With my wealth of experience on this board and imposing post count, I support this suggestion.

[Whispering_Jack 29,333]

I had a look at Talking Carlton which has a dedicated board for players and it seems to run reasonably well, albeit with the usual criticism of players and occasional bagging.

I'm happy to give the idea a try and will check with Andy (Demonland) to see if he can set it up on a trial basis. Melbourne past and present players only with the usual rules applying.

Of course, if things get out of hand, we'll have to press the Moron button on offenders and abandon the project.

[gsmith12 491]

I wouldn't say "mods" think it's unworkable, I'd say that was just my opinion. Happy for others to have the discussion, at the end of the day I'll just go with the flow.

Hey Nasher, would hate to be seen hijacking a thread but how is my avatar going ?

[s-t-i-n-g-a 439]

Could we get a room for just for WYL and Rhino?

[angrydee 842]

I, too, think it's a good idea

[Deestroy All 14,262]

And there needs to be a 'flick you on the arse with a wound up towel' button.

[Green Machine 63]

Yes

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,885]

Its already too hard to keep up with the number of threads and we're not even in season. I would prefer to scan a thread and jump over the comments I dont care for rather than have to enter threads for each player to see what is being said. I also think the lines will get blurred somewhat. Where do you draw the line regarding a player thread or something that requires its own seperate thread ie: if Mitch Clark limps off the track is that a story in itself or in his thread? At what point does the weekly 3 word player review divert to conversation on a player that goes in their thread.

Just like the game if it aint broke dont try and fix it.

[daisycutter 29,429]

I don't care if there are fixed threads for each player (though I doubt it will work)

but I'm definitely not in favour of an extra board (unless admin can provide an optional combined view with no loss of function)

[old55 22,996]

Just like the game if it aint broke dont try and fix it.

I call closing the training thread because it too became about Cale Morton is fairly broke.

The general idea is to make it easier to keep pace with topics because they're more centralised and there's not repeat contentt in 3 parallel threads - yes there are grey areas like game reviews and injury occurences - when does it warrant transferring to conversation to the player thread?

It needs to be on a separate board beacuse it will be impossible to find the James Strauss thread on the main board amongst all the other threads when you want to continue it.

Edited January 31, 2012 by old55

[Key Deefender 143]

Its already too hard to keep up with the number of threads and we're not even in season. I would prefer to scan a thread and jump over the comments I dont care for rather than have to enter threads for each player to see what is being said. I also think the lines will get blurred somewhat. Where do you draw the line regarding a player thread or something that requires its own seperate thread ie: if Mitch Clark limps off the track is that a story in itself or in his thread? At what point does the weekly 3 word player review divert to conversation on a player that goes in their thread.

Just like the game if it aint broke dont try and fix it.

I agree BRFE.

I can see logistical issues if say a poster is debating the merits of Jetta or Bennell or Strauss or Tapscott as the preferred running half back. Do we put this in the thread for each of the four with a copy and paste which would then possibly cause several threads to start on the same issue. If someone then wants to add Grimes or Bartram to the debate does this then get spread even further under their names? Or are we indeed better off just leaving this under the single thread titled for example "Who Is Your Preferred Running Half Back?"

[old55 22,996]

I agree BRFE.

I can see logistical issues if say a poster is debating the merits of Jetta or Bennell or Strauss or Tapscott as the preferred running half back. Do we put this in the thread for each of the four with a copy and paste which would then possibly cause several threads to start on the same issue. If someone then wants to add Grimes or Bartram to the debate does this then get spread even further under their names? Or are we indeed better off just leaving this under the single thread titled for example "Who Is Your Preferred Running Half Back?"

There's no rule against "Who Is Your Preferred Running Half Back?" threads - they're great and should continue. It's when there 5 training treads all debating Cale Morton's physique that a problem is occuring.

Edited January 31, 2012 by old55

[Slartibartfast 16,937]

The "Jack Viney" thread is a good example of how it might work.

Old seeing you're going to be single handedly responsible for doubling the work load of the mods I think you should become one!

[H_T 3,038]

With regard to the training thread closed and WJ rightly pushing the Morton button and locking it.

Whilst it's inconvenient, it shouldn't take too long to relocate (move) posts to a Morton thread or any other player thread in a 'Locker Room'. I can envisage some confusion for some posters looking for moved posts and Mods/Posters re-directing them.

If anything, it's an inconvenience for all concerned if one or two posters contribute to diverting a training thread for those reading and wanting specifically training updates. We can implore posters time and again to respect the thread topic, but frustratingly, it still happens.

Note: There is also the utilisation of the search engine to find (I'll use the Morton case) such player thread(s) that can be bumped for further discussion as an option.

I have discussed this forum idea before with Rogue. I'd be interested to read his current thoughts on this 'Locker Room' suggestion.