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Matty warnock flew the flag with plenty of push and shove against Tippett of the crows. he let him know he was there. We should see more of the intimidating ploys from our players. As long as they don't overstep it, I'm fine with it.

It sets the scene and let's the enemy know they are in for a match. Should see more of it !!!!!!

bit of anger doesn't hurt anyone. :mad: grrr.

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thats all fine and good but how do we fit all of Rivers, Garland, Frawley and Warnock in the one side?

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not sure we do. horses for courses or when injuries occur. such as jared's.

ie. macDonald for Grimes this week?

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thats all fine and good but how do we fit all of Rivers, Garland, Frawley and Warnock in the one side?

Great problem to have I think.

I agree with GTW what the MFC needs is tough agressive play.

Warnock is one of a very few at the Dees that provides that factor.

We will need it on Saturday as North have always scared us out of games.

Warnock will go toe to toe with the best of them.

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I know Rivers is a VC and all, but I prefer to have Warnock in the side. He may not be as skillful, but he is a better gorilla keeping defender and allows Frawley to run rampant. If we were to drop Warnock for Rivers that would tie Frawley down on the opposition's best forward while Rivers played the extra tall. Team-wise that is a less useful scenario.

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Warnock got better as the day wore on. I thought he did well and ran out the game strongly. He always cops a good opponent and never gets an easy day. Tippett is a large and quality unit. Matty looked fit and despite the size differential never took a backward step. I realise he can look a little clumsy at times, but there are way more positives than negatives with Matty Warnock. Good, hard bodied impact player to have up back. I thought he grasped his opportunity.

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I think for Warnock to be consistent member of the starting 21+1 he is going to have add some versatility to his game such as being able to be swung forward....

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I think for Warnock to be consistent member of the starting 21+1 he is going to have add some versatility to his game such as being able to be swung forward....

Hell - that was tried in the end of season game against Richmond in 2009, and it didn't work! B)


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Warnock got better as the day wore on. I thought he did well and ran out the game strongly. He always cops a good opponent and never gets an easy day. Tippett is a large and quality unit. Matty looked fit and despite the size differential never took a backward step. I realise he can look a little clumsy at times, but there are way more positives than negatives with Matty Warnock. Good, hard bodied impact player to have up back. I thought he grasped his opportunity.

would you play him on Petrie this week ?

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Frawley will probably go to Thomas so I suppose he's a 50/50 chance with Col Garland. Maybe Riv if available, but I'm not sure of his injury status. The bloke who tore us appart last year was Harvey as I recall, so I hope they have a different plan for him this year. However I have digressed.

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I would put Bail on Harvey.

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Matty warnock flew the flag with plenty of push and shove against Tippett of the crows. he let him know he was there. We should see more of the intimidating ploys from our players. As long as they don't overstep it, I'm fine with it.

It sets the scene and let's the enemy know they are in for a match. Should see more of it !!!!!!

bit of anger doesn't hurt anyone. :mad: grrr.

Important in a young team. More ways than one.

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Push and shove setting the scene? Just like Carroll used to do? Will never forget him roughing up Riewoldt... 80 odd points later...

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I haven't been less convinced by Matty than I am right now.

He seems to have lost a lot of confidence - far too worried about where his opponent is in marking contests, doesn't back himself (as he used to) to judge it better and get to the ball first.

And what is Melbourne fans fascination with jumper-punching? Dunn's tough cause he acts like this at the start of games? Warnock is a competitor for the same reason?

Trengove is tough because of the way he goes about it when the footy is near, not because of pointless aggro and jumper punching...

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I don't get the recent criticism of him. I actually think we've looked better defensively with Warnock down there. I know there's been a couple of really bad games, but they're games that have been lost because of the midfield battles and the getting-trapped-in-our-defensive-50-because-we-can't-break-the-press. Warnock has won his one-on-ones superbly - better than Rivers seems to. He doesn't offer as much going forward, no, but with Chip stepping into the attacking defender role nicely I don't think it matters that much anyway.

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I think we can and have done worse in terms of defensive depth.

He is adequate replacement when our first choice defenders are out for various reasons, and IMO there are worse defenders than him getting regular games elsewhere in the competition.

He's done well in his limited opportunities this year. I think defensively he's good, but he is not and should never been used to attack out of the backline.

Interesting that the article on the MFC website mentions him going up forward. Would be a worthy experimentation.

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Agree, not blessed with the physical attributes or skills of a top-liner but gets the best out of himself. It must be said though that for this reason he pushes the rules to thier absolute limit.

On the wrong day against the wrong umpire he can quickly become a liability.

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I haven't been less convinced by Matty than I am right now.

He seems to have lost a lot of confidence - far too worried about where his opponent is in marking contests, doesn't back himself (as he used to) to judge it better and get to the ball first.

And what is Melbourne fans fascination with jumper-punching? Dunn's tough cause he acts like this at the start of games? Warnock is a competitor for the same reason?

Trengove is tough because of the way he goes about it when the footy is near, not because of pointless aggro and jumper punching...

Lost confidence?...he was one of the few shining lights last week...he killed Petrie (who the week before looked like he was coming back into form), it was Edwards who got away from a combination of Garland/Dunn and whoever else

Warnock is a good full back, playing against gorillas, so he treats them like that, he has taken a couple of games to get back up to speed, hopefully he will stay in, although match ups again this weekend may have him out again

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Lost confidence?...he was one of the few shining lights last week...he killed Petrie (who the week before looked like he was coming back into form), it was Edwards who got away from a combination of Garland/Dunn and whoever else

Warnock is a good full back, playing against gorillas, so he treats them like that, he has taken a couple of games to get back up to speed, hopefully he will stay in, although match ups again this weekend may have him out again

Agreed. An in-form Warnock greatly stregthens our backline, and gives more flexibility to how Frawley is used. I reckon the combination of Warnock, Frawley, Rivers, Garland and MacDonald gives us tremendous versatility down back. They may not all play in the same game. But, it means we can mix and match, depending on the opposition any given week.

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Matty is a solid backman. Given the shortages we have he will no doubt play the season out in our back 6.

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far too worried about where his opponent is in marking contests, doesn't back himself

Indeed - takes his eye off the footy just before the ball is getting to his area and focusses on his opponent, even when Warnock has prime position.

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