Cameron Schwab and Chris Connolly

[thedemonwithin 0]

Unsuccessful pair who have never done anything significant in the AFL.

Both were at Fremantle from 02 - 07 in which they took a developing young side, similar to ours, towards only two finals series and only ONE finals win in six years.

Then they were sacked, and guess who snapped these geniuses up? Us.

2008 - "Schwab joined the Demons..............contract worth almost $600,000 a year". WHAT?! Connolly was short listed for the coaching role along with Bailey, thank god he didn't get it, yet his mate Schwaby stuck by his mate and gave him a job. What does Connolly even do apart from waltz around like he owns the place and speak at functions? I rarely see him making an appearance down at Casey, and don't think Schwab has ever even travelled that far east - one of the more important places to be on a Saturday afternoon for a developing side such as ours. Honestly, apart from Cameron's 'Whiteboard Wednesday's (what a load of crap, surely he has something better to do), these two seem to be drifters.

Are these the right men to lead a developing football department?

Bailey is fine, we have the on-field talent, we are simply not being led properly.

[Guest Artie Bucco]

Where to start?

I think you are very very misguided.

It's one thing to ask the question when you are trying to find the answer to some tough questions.

But some of the statements you've made are horrendous.

Both have done a lot of good for this club since their return.

Not sure, but I think you have your facts wrong too - pretty sure Connolly was in place before Schwab.

[Mallee Bull 97]

Firstly,

Connolly was appointed as Melbourne's General Manager of Football Operations at the end of 2007 by the Gardner Board, http://www.melbournefc.com.au/coaches/tabid/17074/default.aspx

Schwab became the MFC's CEO in 2008, appointed by the Jim Stynes Board. So your claim of jobs for mates is wrong.

Secondly, Schwab was not fired from Fremantle, he left of his on volition so he could return to Melbourne and be with his family http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/schwab-to-return-to-melbourne/story-e6frg7mo-1111115997452

So, you are wrong again.

During his time at Fremantle, Schwab transformed the clubs financial position as a new fledgling club, into one of the most stable and steady clubs in the AFL, this in a state that was dominated by the already established West Coast Eagles.

Since joining Melbourne, the club has managed to eradicate its debt, rejoin with the MCC, reconnect the various factions of the club, and has begun to look at growing it's asset base.

Clearly, he is extremely competent at what he does.

Since his arrival, and Connolly's, the club has bottomed out and begun to steadily improve with a youth theme. Granted, the opening 5 rounds have been disheartening, and questions are now being asked of our coaching team, namely Bailey. The rest of the season will decide his fate. If the players respond and show improvement he will survive. If not, then he will be replaced.

How you can excuse Bailey for our current on field troubles and condemn Schwab and Connolly, who have both done great work at strengthening the financial position of our club/ bringing together the fractured MFC community, is absurd.

Edited May 3, 2011 by Mallee Bull

[Salems Lot 2,380]

What a bizarre thread, total fail

[Dockett 32 1,213]

You might like to consider for a second where we were before these blokes and JS arrived. It seems we have one unit of the concern underperforming, off the rails a bit if you like. I'm sure the club will give those in charge and involved in that unit a reasonable chance to correct the position. In the event that satisfactory improvement is not evident corrective action then has to come from the board. Its all part of the process, so no need for panic and certainly no need to hang anyone just yet.

[Red Sox 2]

I blame the fitness staff and the girl that answers the phone at the front desk.

Gee, everyone is getting a whack this week!!

[beelzebub 22,244]

Unsuccessful pair who have never done anything significant in the AFL.

Both were at Fremantle from 02 - 07 in which they took a developing young side, similar to ours, towards only two finals series and only ONE finals win in six years.

Then they were sacked, and guess who snapped these geniuses up? Us.

2008 - "Schwab joined the Demons..............contract worth almost $600,000 a year". WHAT?! Connolly was short listed for the coaching role along with Bailey, thank god he didn't get it, yet his mate Schwaby stuck by his mate and gave him a job. What does Connolly even do apart from waltz around like he owns the place and speak at functions? I rarely see him making an appearance down at Casey, and don't think Schwab has ever even travelled that far east - one of the more important places to be on a Saturday afternoon for a developing side such as ours. Honestly, apart from Cameron's 'Whiteboard Wednesday's (what a load of crap, surely he has something better to do), these two seem to be drifters.

Are these the right men to lead a developing football department?

Bailey is fine, we have the on-field talent, we are simply not being led properly.

you do actually understand the roles these two play? Probably not !!

perfectly understand youre wanting to blame someone but these two arent the problem.

[Chicken Deelicious 0]

Do you feel better now?

[Guest watts04]

woeful thread

both great positives for this club - u obviously dont know the club nor what it has achieved in the last 2 years

[Kento80 83]

Firstly, Connolly was appointed as Melbourne's General Manager of Football Operations at the end of 2007 by the Gardner Board, http://www.melbournefc.com.au/coaches/tabid/17074/default.aspxSchwab became the MFC's CEO in 2008, appointed by the Jim Stynes Board. So your claim of jobs for mates is wrong. Secondly, Schwab was not fired from Fremantle, he left of his on volition so he could return to Melbourne and be with his family http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/schwab-to-return-to-melbourne/story-e6frg7mo-1111115997452So, you are wrong again.During his time at Fremantle, Schwab transformed the clubs financial position as a new fledgling club, into one of the most stable and steady clubs in the AFL, this in a state that was dominated by the already established West Coast Eagles.Since joining Melbourne, the club has managed to eradicate its debt, rejoin with the MCC, reconnect the various factions of the club, and has begun to look at growing it's asset base. Clearly, he is extremely competent at what he does.Since his arrival, and Connolly's, the club has bottomed out and begun to steadily improve with a youth theme. Granted, the opening 5 rounds have been disheartening, and questions are now being asked of our coaching team, namely Bailey. The rest of the season will decide his fate. If the players respond and show improvement he will survive. If not, then he will be replaced.How you can excuse Bailey for our current on field troubles and condemn Schwab and Connolly, who have both done great work at strengthening the financial position of our club/ bringing together the fractured MFC community, is absurd.

What he said ^^^

[Deeoldfart 7,788]

Wrong on almost every fact. Unbelievable!

[H_T 2,941]

Wrong on almost every fact. Unbelievable!

Agree Deeoldfart. Stirring.

[rpfc 27,570]

Bailey is fine, we have the on-field talent, we are simply not being led properly.

We will see in a few months.

We don't have talent. We have potential. We don't have cattle - we have a bunch of calves...

And you're right about leadership - but I am more worried about on-field leadership than off-field.

[Allen Jakovich 516]

Wow, OP is completely clueless.

[DemonDave 1,078]

Sack them all!

[Guest melbman]

I rarely see him making an appearance down at Casey, and don't think Schwab has ever even travelled that far east

Seen them both there more than once, sorry

[Supermercado 2,628]

I'm going to start a thread blaming the theme song and suggesting that we picked the wrong George M Cohan track to base it on.

Only aspect of the club unflogged in the last week.

[dazzledavey36 48,946]

urggh shocking thread!

[nutbean 8,837]

its the trumpet mans fault

[Daemn 2]

I blame the fitness staff and the girl that answers the phone at the front desk.

Gee, everyone is getting a whack this week!!

I lay the blame solely on the wonderful two blokes who manage the change-rooms door on game day and never let me in to see my beloved demons up close pre or post match. Pair of buggers both of them and clearly at the heart of our poor start to 2011.

[daisycutter 28,630]

I lay the blame solely on the wonderful two blokes who manage the change-rooms door on game day and never let me in to see my beloved demons up close pre or post match. Pair of buggers both of them and clearly at the heart of our poor start to 2011.

maybe we should blame the clash strip?

wyl always said white was the colour of surrender.....hmmmm

[agent_orange 0]

Unsuccessful pair who have never done anything significant in the AFL.

Both were at Fremantle from 02 - 07 in which they took a developing young side, similar to ours, towards only two finals series and only ONE finals win in six years.

Then they were sacked, and guess who snapped these geniuses up? Us.

2008 - "Schwab joined the Demons..............contract worth almost $600,000 a year". WHAT?! Connolly was short listed for the coaching role along with Bailey, thank god he didn't get it, yet his mate Schwaby stuck by his mate and gave him a job. What does Connolly even do apart from waltz around like he owns the place and speak at functions? I rarely see him making an appearance down at Casey, and don't think Schwab has ever even travelled that far east - one of the more important places to be on a Saturday afternoon for a developing side such as ours. Honestly, apart from Cameron's 'Whiteboard Wednesday's (what a load of crap, surely he has something better to do), these two seem to be drifters.

Are these the right men to lead a developing football department?

Bailey is fine, we have the on-field talent, we are simply not being led properly.

This thread should be deleted for shear embarrasment. Factually incorrect and poorly researched.

[Supermercado 2,628]

Telling when the OP does a runner from their own thread!

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

Unsuccessful pair who have never done anything significant in the AFL.

Both were at Fremantle from 02 - 07 in which they took a developing young side, similar to ours, towards only two finals series and only ONE finals win in six years.

Then they were sacked, and guess who snapped these geniuses up? Us.

2008 - "Schwab joined the Demons..............contract worth almost $600,000 a year". WHAT?! Connolly was short listed for the coaching role along with Bailey, thank god he didn't get it, yet his mate Schwaby stuck by his mate and gave him a job. What does Connolly even do apart from waltz around like he owns the place and speak at functions? I rarely see him making an appearance down at Casey, and don't think Schwab has ever even travelled that far east - one of the more important places to be on a Saturday afternoon for a developing side such as ours. Honestly, apart from Cameron's 'Whiteboard Wednesday's (what a load of crap, surely he has something better to do), these two seem to be drifters.

Are these the right men to lead a developing football department?

Bailey is fine, we have the on-field talent, we are simply not being led properly.

Pathetic stuff. Along with Jim Stynes, these guys saved the club. It's actually that simple.

[Sir Why You Little 34,648]

maybe we should blame the clash strip?

wyl always said white was the colour of surrender.....hmmmm

That it is.