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beelzebub    15,434

Get better Jesse..cya in 18 after a good preseason ;)

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McQueen    8,079
29 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Get better Jesse..cya in 18 after a good preseason ;)

Looking likely.

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beelzebub    15,434

I did my colarbone years back. Needed pins etc. A good 2 months before you felt overly confident with it. Youre sore and shoulder tires .

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daisycutter    13,810
1 minute ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Jesse Hogans 2017 season has to be the toughest a player has ever been through right?!

certainly up there with putrid years

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Hogan2014    562

Poor kid... what a rotten year for Jesse ... good health & come back when your ready!

when wil the footy gods shine on our club?

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Pates    2,828

Regardless of whether he gets fit I think we should hold him until next year. He's had such an awful year, and to be honest when he came back he wasn't exactly setting the world on fire. 

Get him set for a big 2018. 

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Jaded    9,695
Posted (edited)

Agreed that it's time to pull the pin on season 2017. It's been a stinker for the poor kid. 

Unless we somehow make prelims I can't see us playing him again. And even still he will be so rusty I'm not sure it'll even be the right move. 

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dpositive    598

Give him the best medical,surgical and rehab treatment.

Let him go home or be where he wants. Keep himself fit and trim to go but with no requirement or demand.

When we make the finals see if he is ready to go and match him up against Pedersen or alternatives.

Jesse is a class player who can dominate an opponent and a game but he must be ready to go. The coaches will know.

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Vogon Poetry    1,618

Tell him you want him back as soon as possible because he's a very important part of the team.  Tell him he'll be straight back in and the harder he works the quicker it will be.  Give him a reason to be enthusiastic about his recovery.  Make him feel wanted, not a failed product for 2017.

Don't put him out to pasture and take away his motivation.  Tell him he can be part of something really special and finish the year on a high and achieve with the team.

Give the kid something, don't take it away.

 

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beelzebub    15,434
2 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

Tell him you want him back as soon as possible because he's a very important part of the team.  Tell him he'll be straight back in and the harder he works the quicker it will be.  Give him a reason to be enthusiastic about his recovery.  Make him feel wanted, not a failed product for 2017.

Don't put him out to pasture and take away his motivation.  Tell him he can be part of something really special and finish the year on a high and achieve with the team.

Give the kid something, don't take it away.

 

:wacko:

Think its better to fulfill a proper scheduled recovery and regab than some botched rushed gung ho f-up.

Im sure he knows whats at stake etc.

 

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Vogon Poetry    1,618
1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

:wacko:

Think its better to fulfill a proper scheduled recovery and regab than some botched rushed gung ho f-up.

Im sure he knows whats at stake etc.

 

Is that what you took out of my post?

 

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beelzebub    15,434
31 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

Is that what you took out of my post?

 

Yep.. because thats how you come over. 

Yours is a an archaic attitude to recovery imho. You don't think the sports med folk wouldn't have this worked out. 

You would rush something ? 

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bandicoot    710
1 hour ago, Vogon Poetry said:

Tell him you want him back as soon as possible because he's a very important part of the team.  Tell him he'll be straight back in and the harder he works the quicker it will be.  Give him a reason to be enthusiastic about his recovery.  Make him feel wanted, not a failed product for 2017.

Don't put him out to pasture and take away his motivation.  Tell him he can be part of something really special and finish the year on a high and achieve with the team.

Give the kid something, don't take it away.

 

Agree.. good post 

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bandicoot    710
23 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Yep.. because thats how you come over. 

Yours is a an archaic attitude to recovery imho. You don't think the sports med folk wouldn't have this worked out. 

You would rush something ? 

If we are in the finals then I would do everything possible to get him back. 

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Vogon Poetry    1,618
1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

Yep.. because thats how you come over. 

Yours is a an archaic attitude to recovery imho. You don't think the sports med folk wouldn't have this worked out. 

You would rush something ? 

There is nothing in my post saying he should be brought back before he's ready.  I was saying we should keep the season very much alive for him and give him incentive and hope, not shunt him off until next season as many suggested.

 

 

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chook fowler    6,740
5 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

There is nothing in my post saying he should be brought back before he's ready.  I was saying we should keep the season very much alive for him and give him incentive and hope, not shunt him off until next season as many suggested.

 

 

Thank goodness our psychological management of the players is so much better than it was 

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Tim    352
2 hours ago, Vogon Poetry said:

 

Give the kid something, don't take it away.

 

Like your thinking, VP!

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Sir Why You Little    12,275
1 hour ago, bandicoot said:

If we are in the finals then I would do everything possible to get him back. 

September is 4 weeks away

Hogan's collarbone would be an easy target for any opposition. 

He would need loads of pain killing injections, his year has been tough enough as it is

I hope he isn't rushed back

time for Pedo or The Weid to take another chance

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daisycutter    13,810
Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

September is 4 weeks away

Hogan's collarbone would be an easy target for any opposition. 

He would need loads of pain killing injections, his year has been tough enough as it is

I hope he isn't rushed back

time for Pedo or The Weid to take another chance

finals are 5 weeks away

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Sir Why You Little    12,275
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4 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

finals are 5 weeks away

Still pushing it to be ready for a Final

Pressure goes up weekly

Any weak link will be targetted

"If it bleeds We can kill it....."

Edited by Sir Why You Little

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3Dee    778
2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

finals are 5 weeks away

5 and a half weeks away :roos:

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DubDee    2,044

keep him on ice until the prelim

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Lucifer's Hero    8,900
3 hours ago, daisycutter said:

finals are 5 weeks away

...and the first final is 6 weeks due to extra bye week after round 23

 

 

Agree with those who say to not put Jesse on ice.   With a bit of luck we make it and a bit more luck Jesse has recovered.  If so he deserves the right to play, who knows when he may get another chance.

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