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When the weather is awful in the UK? It was one game, Langdon wouldn't have made a difference to whether we won or lost. Ed has played 17, 24, 23, 25 games since coming to the Dees. He is possibly the most no-fuss player on the list. Turns up almost every week, runs his butt off, then you never hear about him off-field. Yes he is paid well to play AFL footy but it was one game. His sister shouldn't have to work her life around him.

Come on mate, you’re better than that.

I like the changes, team balance looks much better. Hope Woey starts and hunter is sub, Woey deserves the chance to lockdown a spot.

Cox penalised for use of knee in the ruck. He should be pinged more often so other umpires please take note.

But I bet they’ll go the other way. Woey deserves his spot in the team now. Find myself trusting him more with ball in hand than some other players I should be trusting. Good to see some poise.

Hunter sub and Woey Jnr to start on would be my guess.

Last night's game was yet another example of what i'm talking about above. The dogs had a whopping 16 center clearances last night, twice as many as the Swans who could only manage 8. The Swans were plus 3 for around the ground stoppages, meaning the dogs were +5 for total clearances Six years ago if a team had 16 center clearances and their opponent only 8, that would be the ball game. But as is often the case now, the dogs center square domination was not a decisive factor in the game. They scored 6.6.42 from stoppages (in total, ie centre and around the ground combined) to the swans' 5.2.32. Like so many games now, the decisive factor was scores from turnover, with the dogs scoring 6.10.46 from turnovers and the Swans 11.2.68. On turnovers, there is no doubt the dogs inaccuracy hurt them, they had 16 to 13 turnover scores after all. But an interesting factor to consider, particularly as it relates to the discussion about us changing our game plan, is that the dogs dominated inside 50s, particularly in the last quarter, winning inside 50s 60-48. I think there is enough evidence now to suggest the time in forward half model, high inside 50 numbers with lots of reentries into a crowded forward line (ie our 2021-23 game plan) contributes to inaccuracy. The other interesting stat from last nights game, also relevant to the midfield discussion (given the key role mids play in terms of winning contested possessions), is the dogs smashed the swans for contested possessions 138 to 105.

Perhaps it's just part of being a fan, but it seems many dees fans, for all manner of things, don't apply the same logic to the dees as they do to other clubs. Flags are hard to win. Yes we won a flag under goody, but somehow one flag in 7 season for us is a fail. We are consistently a contender and give ourselves a chance to win a flag. Underachieved. The cats and swans are a well run clubs that are always in the frame. Wouldn't it be be great to be a fan of those clubs. Other contenders get beaten when favorites, a blip. We get beaten as favorites and it's time to rebuild and 'play the kids'. Other teams struggle for a block of time but they have key players out injured. We have a rough patch for the same reason and we lack depth. And on, and on and on.

Maxi

It was actually a bump right on his circumcision scar.

[censored] !!!! Umpiring is bull [censored] ! It is [censored] up the game !!

This is my daughters Demon dog who caught Kozzie’s eye at training recently ❤️💙

Also looks like Jefferson still needs to get his running levels up to the mark. He’s had quarters or halves of footy where you see the talent that made him a first round prospect, but then goes missing. A lot of it looks like he doesn’t quite have the tank to run and present repeatedly for an extended period of time. That’s going to be a problem at AFL level if he gets promoted now. Maybe a late season game or two if we can afford to give him a taste, but I reckon he needs at least one more preseason to get ready. I also get that the Giants have gone a different route with Cadman in playing him regularly and early, but he was more developed physically than Jefferson when drafted and their forward line can better accommodate him (as Cadman develops) at the moment as well.

Don't worry, WCW. I think 99% of DLanders realise that Kent is a troll who misspells his name.

My avatar says: “Welcome to the pack!”

Does this apply to us too?

Hope he's not offended by being left out again. Do we really want to hurt him?

Haven’t seen this little interest in the teams coming out in a while everyone still got ptsd from last sunday?? we will smash the Saints and get back amongst it! Go Dees!

As I recall JVR was named in the 25 a couple of times late 2022; some were calling for him to debut but the FD wisely held him back. And he went on to have an really excellent debut year 2023.

You know what Collingwood do well. Sticking their tackles. They rarely miss. The scary thing is they have so many good players out but are still winning. It makes you sick.

Moniz Wakefield has been a mile ahead of Hunter in the last few Casey games.

They really are giving them the greatest armchair ride ever known to man.

You'd have to imagine we would identify our lack of midfield depth and look to address that, i am sure if the club knew Gus would be forced to retire we may have retained Harmes, or fought harder to keep Jordan, the outcome ultimately is that we lose 3 AFL level mids from our depth and look a bit thin behind the big names. Unsure who specifically we might target but i'd guess we will at the very least be looking at the available mature age midfielders

My hatred of the filth is off the charts.

Brutal call to drop Billings for the game against the Saints. Imagine he would be devastated not to play against his old side.

Getting beaten in a one on one is forgiveable. Giving up on the chase is not. Message sent.

The Howes blunder with Reid (whilst understandable given Reid's talent) was extremely poor defending. There would have been a few other contests that I can't recall but where the selection committee decided he needs a freshening up

Hunter.. very strange selection

Our very own "Thornbury Terrier" The best girl and a ball getter too!

Not this person.

The irony meter is getting a big work out. As you suggest TU Demomnland has been clogged up for the last 2 seasons with cries to change our ugly, forward half game plan. Now we have, and people are pining for the old game plan. I don't think we are using the current method just to preserve bodies/fitness until later in the year, though i have no doubt that is a huge driver. Probably the biggest. As i noted in the saints pregame thread i think we will largely revert to 'our' tried and true method, but hopefully retain some of the elements of our current method, eg hitting some high risk corridor kicks, using the lions style 20 metre forward kicks on the 45, and some run and dare off the hb. Those elements are important I think in terms of reducing the frequency of reentries back into a crazy crowded inside 50 (which had historically been a big driver of our low score to inside 50 ratio - or inefficiency as it is oft described). On that point i 100% agree with @MurDoc516 and you that the way we played in 2022-23 contributed to the inaccuracy we had in finals. It's an interesting factor to consider, particularly as it relates to the discussion about us changing our game plan Last nights game provided another example of a possible correlation between a contested, forward half, high inside 50 game style. The dogs dominated inside 50s, particularly in the last quarter. For the match, the dog were +12 for total inside 50s (60-48) and were +33 for contested possessions (which is nuts - i don't reckon there would be too many times a team has won being 33 cps down). I think there is enough evidence now to suggest the time in forward half model, high inside 50 numbers with lots of reentries into a crowded forward line (ie our 2021-23 game plan) contributes to inaccuracy.

If “Jeffo” can put together a big month in the VFL constantly kicking 3-4 goals setting up a few and taking marks and working hard. Sure. But this ain’t the Roo’s era, we aren’t getting games into kids. Get a grip and strap I for a bumpy ride to rd23.

kornes was harping on about melbourne helping a fellow contender, maintaining that we should've continued to play grundy in the vfl and just use him when we needed to give gawn a chop out he really is a moron

It just so happens I spoke to uncle Colin about this. He thinks we need to get back to our tried and trusted contested game plan, tell max to tap it our players rather than theirs and work on mid forward connection. sound advice I reckon

Adam Tomlinson must have run over Goody’s cat or something left out in the Casey Doldrums. Has kept his head up and has regularly been listed in the best players there this season. With Jake Lever in recovery for a block of games he would be in the frame for a call up you’d think. Though his role would be more as a sweeper than as an interceptor. Lachie Hunter’s halcyon days are well behind him. Defensively he adds a battle hardened body, although his ability to find separation and hurt offensively have declined. Due to losing a yard or two of pace and his kicking has struggled to get over a jam tin at times. But he’s not home alone there.

Thanks GV

Here is my beautiful old boy who sadly no longer with us. During his life he went to many training sessions and was also featured on the news at a training session pre finals session. Waiting for our little ‘ Maysie’ to come into the world soon ❤️💙

Jake Melksham peak 2018 could absolutely sizzle them 50m low and flat.

As a paid up member nobody bothered to ask me about whether I wanted my team renamed says it all really long live the MFC

Seems like the adoption of “Narrm” as our name during the indigenous round has coincided with abysmal performances that have been a negative turning point for our season year after year. Maybe we can change to Kulin or Boonwurung, maybe some kind of exorcism but heck we’ve got to break this Narrm Curse

199cm tall defender who's had some injury problems over the years. If injury hadn't impacted him the general consensus is that he could have been a top 20 pick. He's certainly got the talent. Has only played the 2 coates league game so far this year. Still think we need to add to our midfield depth.

Is everyday Father's day for you Dstone?

because it didn't hurt to try; it was an experiment that didn't work we paid little for him, we got little for him

I was only a kid but I remember RDB .... It was a vastly different game then. For mine Robbie and Neitz were the greatest of former players but there are couple of today's Demons who may go on to top them for the 'greatest ever' accolade. We should revisit this topic in a few years.

Petty is not going to the Backline TMac is not going forward From the Coaches Mouth

You can't seriously be pointing to the Carlton game to say our game plan is good? You'd have to be trolling. Carlton have lost 4 of the last 6 because the comp has worked out that you stop Cripps and Walsh there is no Carlton. Not Melbourne though. They let C&W run riot despite the week before Collingwood showing the blueprint on how to stop them. 6 goals to nil to start the game. The first quarters are killing us because we are the easiest side to coach against. You will never be surprised with Goodwin on game day. And our midfield is a shadow of its former self. Most couldn't hit a barn from 20m away Then our main fwds have started with the stellar numbers in the first half the last two weeks. Collectively they have had something like 6 possessions total in two weeks in the first half. Yep our game plan is going gangbusters.

As he gets older make sure he has his own easy chair I have had this chair nearly 50 years and 3 faithful mates have called it their spot

Get rid of fit