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I appreciate it’s frustrating for people who attended the event to go and get tested, but I really don’t understand criticism aimed at the workers at these facilities for the speed at which they are working, or them wanting to leave work at an appropriate time. They are most likely exhausted, and working long shifts. We are 2 years into a pandemic, and it’s pretty obvious we’ve got a long road ahead of us. Lets not forget that what is stressful for you today has been a lot of these health care workers entire lives for 2 years. They are owed our kindness and appreciation.

Yeah, the same virus the bulldogs had in the last half of the grand final................. The Demon Variant.

You guys are all too hard on the cats. They are just super unlucky. WA had only 1 flu case in the entire 8 week period leading up to the prelim, and despite being in isolation they managed to pick it up and have it run through their entire team. You wouldn’t read about it. https://ww2.health.wa.gov.au/~/media/Corp/Documents/Health-for/Infectious-disease/Notifiable-diseases/2021/Week-38-statewide-notifiable-disease-report.pdf Or maybe they heard about the 1 case of leprosy in WA for that period and thought it was one of our players, as they didn’t seem keen to lay a finger on us.

I just hope Neale is safe

Not me. I'm trying to corrupt it with poor jokes and blasphemy.

I'm going to spend Christmas morning by attaching a giant novelty bow to the bonnet of my car, parking in front of a random house until I hears squeals of delight then speed off around the corner to find my next victim.

Beating the living suitcase out of them in the Prelim 😁

Wow, that's quite a rant Deiter. You nailed: Scomo Christianity Capitalism Western civilisation Democracy Merry Christmas mate. I hope you enjoy the day off for Jesus' birthday.

As title suggests and may I take this opportunity to wish all Demonlanders the best of Christmas cheer and luck as we approach Changing and challenging times PF

Got a new email too saying my order has had its status changed. Upon checking I'm getting my premiership jersey but not the three other items I ordered - stubbie holder, t-shirt, pennant. When I queried my order about a month ago I was told those items were waiting on the arrival of the premiership jersey before they could be sent all together. The irony then - the jersey is now coming but not the other items. Good thing waiting my entire life for a premiership has given me patience.

You would know if they had -- they'd immediately look 20 years older

You would pay $15 for a test if it meant not lining up for a couple of hours. Just need government to change the rules for casual contacts to use Antigen tests. The bottom line is we have made the decision to live with the virus, we have done everything we can to protect ourselves(well 92% of the population has) we just need to get our yearly boosters like the flu shot and try to minimise the deaths and hospitalisation. The only number we need to watch it people in Hospital and ICU, as long as that can be manged we live life as normal. The QLD and WA premiers have never been more popular, they will keep saying stupid stuff as they believe this is what their population wants to here. You watch the WA bloke change his tune if he doesn't open up in Feb, all of the sudden WCE and Freo will be forced to relocate to the east coast no footy is WA, he is already copping it losing the ashes not sure if Basketball and Soccer teams have relocated, I know the Scorchers have.

I thought we were celebrating the birth of Santa Claus? Veering further off topic, it's a good time of the year to be an ice addict. No more sleeps until Christmas!

During the pandemic, I've read and heard the most, shall we say, idiotic and plain ridiculous commentary I've read or heard in my life. Most of it has come from the anti-vaxxers, next in line is the rubbish from a man called Scomo and his band of merry men and women, and the various commentators on Sky News, and the Murdoch Press are not far behind. The bottom line, is that there is not one person on the planet who knows exactly what's going on with this virus, let alone one person who knows for sure how to deal with it. We are in the midst of a very dark unknown, and it just makes me so sick and tired and angry that it now seems to be reduced to the phoney baloney called Christmas and the urgent need to 'have a holiday'. I guess this is the sum of how spoiled rotten first world countries respond to any inconvenience to their pampered sense of entitlement. In the meantime, and for the record, my arm is till sore from my Monday booster jab, I get very tired very quickly, but so frigginvillia what? In the meantime, the 'Free Marketers' still feel affronted by the notion of compulsory mask wearing and so it goes, the demented ramblings of a so-called democtaric system which has so many echoes of the fall of Rome.

I bought one of these. It arrived in 2 days, I opened it and started bawling. It is sensational and will last the test of time next to my herald sun poster. Couldn't be happier

Our crushing Prelim Final win will do for the time being,

Slightly off topic! but I lost my keys on w/e and spent two days searching and stressing. Then a phone call from work... had I lost my keys. They were found in an office supplies car park and keys were traced back to my workplace. The demon lanyard and Angus Brayshaw key tag were described and manager knew keys were mine. Brilliant work again, Angus making something out of nothing.

Jeerlong still making excuses! As if they dont. Now under the guise of explaining to the moggie members about players being ill on eve of our Preliminary final thrashing of them. Still sounds like a weak attempt to excuse what for them was a pitiful performance. No wonder they are my most hated team. Cry me a river and wallow in your own sullage Jeerlong!

another thread corrupted by partisan politics silly me thought this was a footy forum as if there aren't enough internet sites already for political brawling and virtue signalling one's political ideology

Well they have to come up with some excuse for their members to swallow for their PATHETIC performance It just makes me laugh at the bs coming out. Wonder what bs they will come out with next season when we beat them again on their home turf. They are a bunch of entitled sooks and it starts with the coach, captain and players. God I hate geelong.

I hear a geriatrician is the latest addition to their medical department

The spoiled brats who have 5000 toys too many, you mean? Another way of putting it, F.D, Christmas is the day when families who mostly dislike each other gather around a table, eat too much, drink too much and listen to mental midgets crooning Jingle Bells. Late in the afternoon, some blokes fall asleep, others continue to argue about who got the smallest piece of pav and the homicidal bitchin, to quote Leonardo Cohen, continues. In the meantime, the floor is littered with wrapping paper, presents are opened and taken home to be collected by the next dumpster in the neighborhood. In the meantime, Santa keeps floggin his reindeers and I'm still waiting for my electric train set 65 years later.

That will explain why they slammed the ball over the line when it was already going out, and why they left Max on his own in the last few seconds when all they had to do was punch the ball away. Mass idiocy caused by tummy virus. Definitely not panic induced by shell shock.

"The list of people who have passed away too young is so long" is the sentence preceding the list. I suspect it was an honest error and perhaps it was meant to read Steven Clark, who died aged only 44.

Christmas is the day when children around the world celebrate the arrival of toys.

Big jump in case numbers today both in Vic and NSW. Lucky the cricket is not on in another 10 days... Reading a UK non medical forum and the general vibe is that for the vaccinated Omicron symptoms are typically a runny nose and a scratchy throat. Hopefully they stay that way

https://www.myheartbeatstrue.com/ now includes a search feature so if there's something you remember reading but can't put your finger on it, try the search feature and work your way through the nearly 5,000 items collected on the site so far.

I was almost too afraid to read the next line.

Even though it's Christmas, I'm not expecting miracles. One for the year is enough.

Am excited about the prospect of seeing young JVR develop over the next couple of years under the expert tutelage of our merry band of coaches. Seems to have the attributes to be a terrific swingman for us a la T Mac which would be invaluable. Players that can play back and forward don't come along that often.

Poetic License, Leonard would have understood...

Aren’t they dutybound under OHS rules to notify AFL medicos and MFC medicos they are sending potentially sick players out there. They only had a minor final - we had a Grand Final to play. What if Trac and Fritter got infected with cat flu?

Apparently his real name is Andy. Andy walks with me, Andy talks with me etc. His dad's name is Harold. Our Father, who art in Heaven, Harold be thy name etc.

The belting we give them in 2022 followed by Scott getting the sack.

This is the story of two losses suffered by the Melbourne Football Club that were separated in time by a full decade. The first was a defeat that hung heavily over the club for years and saw careers and friendships ended, harsh words uttered, tears shed and the unfolding of tragedy. The coach was sacked and not long after, he died. A player became enmeshed in tribal affairs that led to violence and his imprisonment. Another’s life later ended in a devastating car crash. The wreckage from the club’s Round 19, 2011 trip to take on Geelong at Corio Bay became known simply as “186” in recognition of the magnitude of the loss in points. But it was far more extensive in terms of the scars it left on the club. Only a very few involved in that game managed to keep their careers intact after the train wreck. A number found refuge elsewhere but in most instances, the remainders of their careers were short-lived. Only a few managed to revive their careers. James Frawley played in a premiership at Hawthorn and after a brief retirement reappeared even more briefly at St Kilda, the club where his troubled uncle Danny made his name as one of football’s all-time great defenders. Two others played in grand finals and are still on AFL club lists. High flying Jeremy Howe who took flight for a better life at Collingwood was a matter of minutes away from the holy grail in 2018 and is still today the Magpies’ vice-captain. Stefan Martin was traded in 2012 to the Lions before moving to the Western Bulldogs at the end of last year. Ironically, he was the only 186 participant who took part in this year’s Grand Final at Optus Stadium in Perth. His ruck opponent that evening, Max Gawn, and Demons forward Tom McDonald were both youngsters in 2011 and missed out on making the senior team for Round 19 that year. Gawn and McDonald made it to the Big Dance of 2021 but time ran out for two other members of the 2011 side who remained at the club through the lean years and the slow rise to glory that followed. So strong was the Demon team on the day/night that club legends in Nathan Jones and Neville Jetta who were instrumental in holding the team together over the years were denied the opportunity to cross over to the Promised Land. Both retired at the end of the season. It’s ten years after 186 and now on to Round 19, 2021. There’s a game on at the MCG against the Western Bulldogs but it wasn’t originally supposed to happen that way - the pandemic caused a late change to the fixture and there was no long trip away from home as there had been in 2011. The years in between saw rebuilding, development and renewal under new leadership. Peter Jackson, Paul Roos, Simon Goodwin and more lately Gary Pert and Kate Roffey led a revival built upon a change in the club’s culture and values. Vast empty stands and the evening’s drizzly skies awaited them that night. They weren’t quite in the right space yet and they kicked poorly to succumb to the Bulldogs and their skipper Marcus Bontempelli but there were lessons learned and the team never lost a game from that time on. In the following week, they traveled north but the game against the Gold Coast Suns was moved back to Melbourne. They flew back and forth across the country, avenged 186 on Corio Bay and eventually landed in Perth where they crushed the Cats again for good measure before fulfilling their quest for the Holy Grail.

Interesting that no politician speaks of either PNG or the Solomon Islands. Both within almost a stones throw of our Northern borders and vaccination rates among the lowest in the world Given the billions spent in Oz on this pandemic you might think that a billion spent vaccinating our near neighbours might be a good investment.

Brought to you by the same artists who draw Adam and Eve with navels.

Given the rate of infection now and that they are asking people to get tested so late in the days they need to allocated days where certain sites are either open 24hrs on certain days, or simply after hours (open until say 11pm). My mum had her booster shot booked for Monday, got told Sunday at 6pm to get tested because she was classified as a close contact to someone at a cafe 2 days prior. Ran around like a headless chook trying to get to a testing centre only to be 3 cars from the end of the line before they called it quits. She went first thing Monday, rescheduled her booster for the following afternoon, but didn't receive a negative result until Tuesday evening. She had to re-reschedule her booster for Wednesday morning and drove on to Canberra so they can get to Sydney to be with my brother and his wife for Christmas. I'm sick of our governments making these rules and regulations, without the infrastructure to assist people in completing them, not to mention making the rules up with little to no warning. That stress (all for a negative test which we expected because we also bought a home kit to try to calm her that told her she was negative) was totally unreasonable and avoidable if they provide the opportunities for people to get tested out of normal hours. She was in tears at stages because she was worried she'd miss Christmas. She's 73 and doesn't need this **** (not to mention the added stress it gives to everyone else). As for everyone at the B&F, hope you all get the good news of negative results. EDIT: (Apologies for the rant!)

They are now saying that the PF flogging was all to do with a virus that swept through 6 of their players. IIRC we were struck down with Flu the weekend of 186 but it was never used as an excuse.

I would support this if the same rules were applied to smoking lung cancer victims, or alcoholic liver failure patients. Until then, I'm not sure anyone should be denied medical care based on vaccination status.

I’ve bought 3 and can’t wait to give 2 to family members for Christmas. Thanks so much Webber

Hey people, Gotta thank the mods and their Masters for keeping this site alive during all the hard, long years. You know that I know that you know that I know who you guys are. Lots of people on here do not know the sacrifices and the financial commitments you have made. Thank you. Gotta thank all you people who take the time to post on here. It gives great joy to our dees community. Every time I think I want to post, some other bastard has already said it better. There are lots of different Melbourne Demons face masks out there. Just google and you can choose yours and your price range. I wear mine proudly. I love the conversations with fellow dees who would otherwise just walk past. Even better are the snarls and snorts from the opposition supporters. Others may have their favourites, but I have two insufferable brothers-in-law. Long may the Hawks languish. Again with apologies to my mates who migrated here with me from the old demonology site, I have a third verse for the Club Song for your opnion: "Well, we broke through and won in the year '21 The Norm Smith curse is now Gawned And you'll find us there in the final four A new Goody era now dawned Every heart beats true etc..." Regards and Xmas/ New Year greetings to all, Rollo

Overnight sensation. Assuming of course overnight is defined as 30 odd years of being one of the best operators around. But sure let's wait to judge.

He snuck in

With the current day advances in medical care, I'd go out on a limb and declare the vaccine effective after an individuals 28th dose

I can't remember if I've said on here before, but I'm gonna say it again, so glad someone thought to go with the jumper point during the many goal celebrations in the game. Such a classic but you can really only bring it out in big moments, otherwise it's cheapened. So to very legitimately do this in a GF and actually remember to do it among the chaos was great.

The previous president wanted to oust Goodwin from my reliable sources and it was a non-starter from the board and particularly Roffey. Not many cardboard cutouts can do that.

She has been on the board for 8 years already, but of course that means nothing….

Nothing better than seeing the Cats fans complain. Scott getting signed is the best thing that could happen. Keep going for a flag. danger, Selwood and hawk will be gone in 2 years and it will be an epic bottoming out! We’ll be there with the popcorn