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Why does everything have to be stated publicly these days? I’m sure the coaches are well aware of the issue and it is something that will be rectified (or attempted to be).

Thanks Grapeviney and for those who were taken in by your comments, our tech people are working on a sarcasm metre with bells and whistles. For the rest of us, the time to panic is if we’re reading the same thing on 1 April, 2020.

Neroli Meadows on Fox also reporting that it’s likely he will end up at MFC next year.

Not to worry, will be about 6 months until you see a missed kick or goal by us again

Are you stupid or just a troll? Or both?

Type of person who walks into the front counter of a cop shop and says I got punched for no reason Will have accounts on all AFL club supporter forums Never actually talks about tactics strategy or set ups

Jingle bells, Ablett smells Selwood ducked his head Dangerfield whinged and squealed Hawkins laid an egg. *I’ll see myself out.

Bairstow bowled Starc! 6/228

The cliff is coming for the Cats. It all looks good at the early stages of the season when the old stagers are up and running. They were the same last year in the finals against us. Selwood, Hawkins, Ablett and Taylor all ineffective. Just too old come the end of the season.

Was borderline All Australian a few years ago playing as a tall half back. His main strengths are his endurance, running power, and kicking skills. He’s played the past year or two as a wing working between the arcs and has averaged a touch under 20 disposals in a team that doesn’t use the wings much. His kicking skills going inside 50 will be useful. I think he’d be perfect as the lead up forward for us. Similar to Tom Lynch at Adelaide or Hogan when he played up the ground. He’s a great size, but doesn’t split packs. He’ll run anyone off their feet how Hogan used to, just wont hit the scoreboard as often. Because he’s a free agent and therefore no trade required, I’d hope we go hard at him. He’d definitely be in our 22 for a few years to come.

Sounds like the complete package

Are you part of his paid PR team that went a long way to costing him his job? None of us outside the coaches box know how brilliant technically he is or isn’t. But Melbourne’s structures this year and even last don’t seem to work at the mcg which happens to be our home ground and where the gf is played. He has to take some responsibility for that. I doubt very much he will end up a senior coach

It says that his younger brother is the new CEO at North and has offered him more money to come back to one of the clubs he played at.

Lack of scoreboard pressure early on has cost the Lions this game. Sound familiar?

Stokes out 7 down

Geez it will be nice watching Collingwood lose another grand final

New ball taken at Old Trafford......

just came back... missed a high tackle and then paid a throw Cricket about to start... channel switching skills required

Riewoldt is such a pathetic sook, horrible look for the game.

Doesnt look like he knows what day it is.....hes still on the peptides, nobody told him to stop..

I just wanted to quote the worst formatted table of all time.

Did a commentator just say referring to GWS, "a home team with a healthy home crowd"? I'd hate to see an unhealthy home crowd. This is a final and there are two empty unopened stands and a smattering of empty seats around the ground.

Bloody hell. I just read 26 pages on my Saturday to catch up on all of this as I'd stayed away since April, and the ending (non-closure on this) is as unsatisfying as the end of The Sopranos.

No, I spoke to him today, he was hoping for at least 10 pages on here, with the same post reposted but said in 25 different ways, before it was announced officially Besides which he is waiting for @Sir Why You Little to imply when it will be announced Wouldn't be surprised if he was one to walk in the big change though I've heard from an inside source that ine of the water girls is unhappy with the way Goody flippantly tossed the water bottle back to her, after having a drink at training, that she is leaving... Watch this space for more

Well done Bin.

"Goodwin said poor kicking efficiency "killed" the Dees, who were unable to convert strong work around the ball into a winning score" Source Not that it actually makes any difference whatsoever.

And Hawkins goalless for the 3rd week in a row.

Perhaps you could have used a clip from the film Weekend at bernaise

About time someone mustard up the strength to point this out.

My best Exhilarates mv race 5 no 1 A really top days racing. I think lots of favs will get up at the valley and randwick. The Concorde is a ripper. Is nature strip too short? Quick but I think I'll trust the handicap and go with redzel, even though it hasn't won for a while. Best value: kenedna (a horse i can never seem to snag. I hope that changes to today) Best roughie: a the between ashlor and mister sea wolf. Good punting fellas

I can’t help thinking that if the Cats had a season injury-wise like we had this year, then they’ll finish 17th in 2020.

If some of the stories here are correct it could be that the Club is for the first time thinking the unthinkable. That is terminating Goodwin in the short to medium term. I am sure that was not the case even as recently as the bye. Many are saying Goody is stubborn and inflexible, my view he is not too intelligent, poor education and totally lacking in life experience.

If Geelong go out in straight sets, there'd have to be questions asked about Scott wouldn't there? Bloke has overseen a string of finals chokes already. His tenure has been masked by walking into a side that coached itself to a flag in 2011. I commend him for changing up their forwardline this year, but they rely on too few and many go missing when the blow torch is applied back the other way.

Should be any day along the announcements of Petracca wants out There's division between the captains Richardson is ready to walk Qnd whatever else the Soothsayers come up with

Don’t know if it’s been said before but I actually dislike Geelong more then Collingwood. Tonight is a good result.

Whilst I think there is a lot in what you say I think it's easy to forget how good we were at the back end of 2018. We didn't lack speed and we didn't often get caught out. We were caught out this year because all of our midfield didn't have a preseason. All of them. As for our ball use going forward I think that is very problematic when you have half your team out and the majority of the blokes that deliver it forward missing most of preseason - no practice = less than optimal skills. I agree we'd be better with more pace, I think small forwards and outside pace is lacking, but you put 9 first 22 players back into the team that played NM in the final round and give the mids a preseason and we are not having this conversation. As for game plan I think it's interesting. The Doggies have come alive in the back end of the season playing our 2018 footy. Essendon played some very good footy with that style. Brisbane tried to match Geelong at the Gabba with the "down the line defensive" stuff and were losing by 20 odd points at three quarter time. They played our style footy in the last quarter and won brilliantly. I'm not convinced that our style of footy is wrong or is dead, it clearly needs fit and skilful players to execute it. We need to improve on 2018, we need to hone game plans, we need to address weaknesses in our list. But more importantly than all that we need a good PS, fit players and continuity. It's no surprise that Brisbane and Geelong finished top 2 this year. Neither club had an injury really and the 22 had fantastic continuity which is something we just haven't had, even in 2018 we struggles for continuity. Continuity is totally underestimated by most. I guess the point I'm trying to make is the wrist slashing and view that we are a horrible footy club in crisis and destitute of players is a complete emotional overreaction to a season from hell. Much didn't go right but the infrastructure is there for a very powerful rebound. I don't think there would be one club that has written us off for 2020.

Excellent summary DS. The chip, hold, mark and spread style so in favor this year requires elite aerobic fitness and we simply were never fit enough this season. A poster (I forget who - apologies) made an excellent point about the type of athlete needed for this game style ie 400 metre runners who can run at pace over 400 metres as opposed to the fast twitch power athletes, burst players we have so many of (which is in large part a failure of recruiting in my opinion - and not just a recent failure i might add, which is why i get annoyed with Roos distancing himself from where we are at). You make an excellent point about KK and VDB. Both players are exactly the sort of athletes we have lacked, as is Hanan to a lesser extent and their absence has really hurt us. And based on May's recent comments in quite a revealing interview on SEN they were hoping he would also provide running cover (he is surprisingly quick over distance for such a big unit). On the the chip, hold, mark and spread style i posted in another thread that i think there will be less of it in the finals (and consequently higher scoring than has been the case during the season). I think we saw evidence of that last night with the styles' best proponent being much more attacking with their ball movement and only rarely going to tempo, chip it across the hb football.

Well it has been 50 so far so another year is only 2% extra.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trades-2019-adam-tomlinson-travis-varcoe-set-for-exits-after-being-dropped-for-finals-josh-jenkins-to-geelong/news-story/2a970a51ba8bcd52d2901d31474f4db3 “There’s historically been a lot of interest from Carlton and St Kilda but right now I think Melbourne is a really good chance to get him, maybe even with a long-term deal. He’s hurting tonight and I think he might be at a different club next year.”

Because we are making changes after a poor season.

Good post mate. BACKLINE: I agree that Hibberd is done, but Jetta is even further gone. I hope we trade in an experienced player for leadership and to play lock down next year. Don’t ask me who. I like the rest of your back set up. MIDS: Completely spot on RE: the starting mids. I’d play Langdon on the wing and ANB. Just gut run and defend both ways and link up going the other way. A simple role for ANB. Both not great users, but our best bets I reckon (yes, this involves getting the Langdon deal over the line - have no sources on this, but I reckon it’s a done deal). JKH has to go. Not good enough. Absolutely no tools to make it as an AFL player, unless we can turn him into a lock down defender (see Jetta’s spot above). Not sure he’s strong enough one on one, but anyway. He doesn’t work on a wing or at half forward. We have Gawn, Oliver, Bradshaw, Harmes, Petracca, Viney, Melksham and even Hannan that could and should play through the midfield. After the first 4 or 5, we lack real quality. How anyone can say we’re set for mids is beyond me. I hope we target an experienced FA (I wouldn’t snigger at Higgins here) to add quality and rotations through there too. FORWARDLINE: We’ve previously agreed on Viney playing the small forward role (I think he can serve our midfield a little as well). I think we should be targeting Ben King with our Pick #3, because unlike you I don’t have faith in the McDonald / Weideman duo. Not next year anyway. In time, perhaps. I like King’s height and I think he’s a more natural leading forward than Weideman, but maybe the latter just needs a good forward coach who works hard on his leading patterns. I like Petracca playing deep occasionally, but I also like the idea of Oliver playing there too. Frisch, a fit Melksham and Hannan, plus a zippy small from another AFL system and/or even a surprise packet from the state leagues and we might be in better shape. It’s funny how quickly a list can go from such an exciting potential 22 last year (particularly with the addition of May) to struggling to get even 22 solid players in without any holes in the starting 18.

This is the reason I’m going for the Filth, I can’t stand Geelong’s sense of entitlement.

Why do we need Wines? Serious question there. What does he add to our side that we don't already have?

Not an elite post.

Sam Landsberger from the sun reckons we are faves to land him

1)Don't think so. 2) Various other options for captaincy. The most obvious being to leave Jones as sole captain. And Max says 'hello'. Back to conflict of interest: As List Manager Todd would be in control of any trade options. He sits on the weekly match selection committee. And involved in captaincy decisions. Therefore, he has significant and direct management over his son's career. imv that is a significant conflict of interest and his influence would restrict the club's options on Jack's career, if such circumstances arose.

We had Hibberd, Hore & Frost the majority of the season. As well as Lever for half of the season. We also had Petty and OMac as other options. Fritsch should've been played forward, it was by far our worst area on the ground.