POSTGAME: Rd 19 vs Adelaide

[old55 22,638]

4 minutes ago, Deebauched said:

Crows have lost 3 games by a total of 7 points? against theoretically the two best sides in the comp.

Coll 2  Dees 1

Cant be all that bad a side. Good win.

Agree. I really rate the Crows. Lost to Collingwood by 1pt at home and then 2pts at the MCG where they kicked 7.1 in a quarter. They attack relentlessly and are a great challenge for our system.  

[Jaded No More 67,067]

1 minute ago, Monocology said:

.... as tight as Niagra Falls atm. Crows put on a corridor showcase, thank heavens for their inaccuracy today 

This was a good practice for when we face the Pies again. Adelaide play a very similar attacking game. Only difference is Adelaide have a much better forwardline than Pies. We held the Pies to 17 scoring shots.

 

[Chook 14,987]

3 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Except unlike last year, we win the game. 
Who will remember the margin of this game in September? Literally nobody. 

I'm still a little flat about losing to Adelaide in 2021, but one watch of bang bang bang and I'll live.

[layzie 32,571]

7 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Adelaide have Burgess. Never forget that. They are extremely fit and have IMO the best forwardline in the league. 

Key takeaway really. They were never going to stop coming.

[Stiff Arm 4,419]

6 minutes ago, DutchDemons said:

Melbourne win close games: “ooof they’re no good”

Collingwood win close games: “flag”

There's s difference between winning a close game being well ahead and winning coming from behind like last week. Today was underwhelming 

[chook fowler 19,243]

Good to win without Trac dominating but we make some very dumb decisions and our lack of marking prowess is a problem 

[Min Xie 284]

Very happy!

We had a tough game last week, we were luck to have 8 and half days break. I leant a long time ago, after a tough game, a week long break won't be enough for some senior players to get recovered fully, they might show a bit flat here and there, please understand that. Now we had 2 close games in a row, will be a even tougher game to face Richmond next Sunday. Let's stand behind our beloved Dees, cheer them on, support them to win next game.

[Vitamin Dee 855]

Gee they came hard.

We almost got Darren Burguess’ed

[Jaded No More 67,067]

Just now, Stiff Arm said:

There's s difference between winning a close game being well ahead and winning coming from behind like last week. Today was underwhelming 

Tell me the difference? 

In both scenarios you let your opponent get the better of you for periods of the game. 
It is far less risky to hold a lead than to try and claw one back. 

[Chook 14,987]

1 minute ago, Stiff Arm said:

There's s difference between winning a close game being well ahead and winning coming from behind like last week. Today was underwhelming 

There's actually not. 

[Diamond_Jim 12,314]

Need Petracca back in the midfield.

 

[Deemania since 56 6,542]

4 minutes ago, Hawny for Gawny said:

Don't see goody and the team doing it this year, but maybe if they convince JJ to stay next year with offer of competing or taking that wing.

If JJ had some real work on his speed, he'd cruise well on the wing. He has demonstrated quite a bit of initial speed in clearances and 'run pasts' to receive in a chain, and kicks well to moving targets. He 2-way runs to space and thus, could be more dangerous with greater speed applied on the wing. 

[Hawny for Gawny 416]

1 minute ago, Vitamin Dee said:

Gee they came hard.

We almost got Darren Burguess’ed

Getting Burguess'ed has got to be a top 3 demoralizing feeling. 

[beelzebub 23,125]

We won.. pts...good.

Segments...absolute control 👍👍

Periods where... seemed common sense was somewhere else.

Saw Goody's pokie face crack.

There's work to be done.

Brisbane...we did better on entries.

Adelaide...worked us out..

 

Over to you..

[Jaded No More 67,067]

Just now, Diamond_Jim said:

Need Petracca back in the midfield.

 

We need this guy I hear is not a bad player, Clayton something. He will help. 

[titan_uranus 24,484]

9 minutes ago, Sydney_Demon said:

Yes, Adelaide really suck on the road which was shown by their horrific 1 point loss a month ago to Collingwood! Adelaide were playing for their season and this was always going to be a tough game to win. What's this about the big tests to come? No games are easy except when you're playing West Coast, but Adelaide are a better team definitely than Richmond and the Swans. Possibly not Carlton the way they're currently playing. In any case we're 2 games and an insurmountable percentage clear of all teams below us and I'd back Melbourne to win ar least 3 of 5. Win 2 of 5 and we'll still probably make it as I can't see any of the teams below us winning 5 of 5. St Kilda might even lose today which would definitely be an unexpected bonus.

You don’t have to convince me this was a good win! They’ve run Collingwood to a kick twice and beaten both Brisbane and Port.

But it’s still the case that Adelaide aren’t a good travelling side. They’ve only won 1 game on the road and that was Hawthorn. 

Agree re top 4, as I already posted. We probably only need 2 wins from here unless you think the Dogs, GWS or Geelong will go 5-0, which for all of them appears unlikely.

[DeeZone 8,865]

Wahbloody hoo what a heart stopper. Go Dees.!!!!!

[titan_uranus 24,484]

5 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

There's s difference between winning a close game being well ahead and winning coming from behind like last week. Today was underwhelming 

What difference is that?

Is it like how Collingwood led Adelaide by 35 points at the G a month ago and then won by a point?

[Diamond_Jim 12,314]

2 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

We need this guy I hear is not a bad player, Clayton something. He will help. 

2/3 weeks away unfortunately plus a game or two to reach top form

[Demons3031 369]

26 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

We should try Brown/Smith, JVR and Petty in the same forward line and keep Tommo down back.

I can see some potential there.

Yep.

[Sydney_Demon 1,175]

5 minutes ago, rufus said:

Defence was poor. Our senior players had another one of those games that completely belies their experience and played like first year players. While they are pretty good most of the time, our senior backs just have too many brain farts to lift our defence to the levels that other repeat premiers were able to get to.

47 tackles to 69 on our home ground is abysmal. 1 to 13 tackles inside 50 actually suggests we just don't understand what makes our current style of play work. That lack of pressure on the oppo is exactly what causes our crowd to lose engagement in the game as we enact our 'by the numbers' ball movement.

Thought Adelaide were the better team and were probably hard done by with umpiring too. Still, we have lost some close ones where we were probably the better team, so it seems to be evening out.

End of the day, we certainly didn't look a class above a 13th placed team who were out of form and coming to our patch. Was hoping last week's win might have started building some momentum as it really is time to start pressing for the home run now. But from the perspective of winning finals we look miles behind Coll and Bris who I think are the pack leaders, and would struggle with Port and Carlton the way we are playing right now.

Miles behind Collingwood? We beat them King's Birthday. Miles behind Brisbane? We beat them last week. We lost to Port by 4 points in Adelaide. I'm rapt with the win today. We won. That's all that matters. And Adelaide aren't going to play finals which is another bonus. If Adelaide play like they did today and kick a bit straighter they're a very big chance against Port next week.

[Demons3031 369]

Joel Smith and Tomlinson have played crucial roles for us recently. We need to keep them both in 2024.

[titan_uranus 24,484]

11 minutes ago, rufus said:

Defence was poor. Our senior players had another one of those games that completely belies their experience and played like first year players. While they are pretty good most of the time, our senior backs just have too many brain farts to lift our defence to the levels that other repeat premiers were able to get to.

47 tackles to 69 on our home ground is abysmal. 1 to 13 tackles inside 50 actually suggests we just don't understand what makes our current style of play work. That lack of pressure on the oppo is exactly what causes our crowd to lose engagement in the game as we enact our 'by the numbers' ball movement.

Thought Adelaide were the better team and were probably hard done by with umpiring too. Still, we have lost some close ones where we were probably the better team, so it seems to be evening out.

End of the day, we certainly didn't look a class above a 13th placed team who were out of form and coming to our patch. Was hoping last week's win might have started building some momentum as it really is time to start pressing for the home run now. But from the perspective of winning finals we look miles behind Coll and Bris who I think are the pack leaders, and would struggle with Port and Carlton the way we are playing right now.

Adelaide are the second highest scoring side in the comp. Is it that surprising they scored highly?

Later in your post you say we look miles behind Collingwood (who had an extremely similar game vs Adelaide a few weeks ago) and Brisbane (who we  beat a week ago). 

I’m surprised you didn’t have a crack at our “culture”, too. 

[Supreme_Demon 3,193]

Glad we got the win. It certainly was a relief when the siren went! A very different heart-stopper to last week.

Would of preferred a nice cruisy win by 10 goals.

But it's probably better for overall experience to win a close game like that.

The Crows are actually a pretty good team.

 

Anyway, still a lot more improvement in the Demons to be made.

[rpfc 28,000]

We have a battlin’ midfield right now and that’s ok but it’s going to be cut up for periods. Our press ain’t death atm which doesn’t help. 

Amazing how stars keep you winning; Viney, Brayshaw, Kozzie…

…Chandler…

We are still a work in progress with the major frustration being - we are a defence first team but sometimes we are butter to a hot knife.