13 minutes ago, Boots and all said:

Agree, Turner isn't ready. He did a few good things tonight but struggled in the body work.

Casboult is an experienced physically mature forward must have 15kg+, strength and height on Turner. Sold the poor bloke to the wolves. Whoever decided on that match up should severely self-flagellate themselves behind the shelter shed. Absolute Howler! The penny did belatedly drop, Petty went back and can stay there. Maysie needs help. Desperately.

Edited May 6, 20231 yr by Tarax Club

13 minutes ago, Webber said:

We seriously tried to choke ourselves out of the win. Don’t really know how they got there. A mere shadow of a contender at the moment. You pressure us hard at the stoppage and the contest, and our defensive system becomes very very fragile. Dare I say jittery and slow. Congrats to Noah Anderson, phenomenal. Also Jarrod Witts, based on that he might be the best stoppage ruckman in the league. Gotta feel for Bailey Fritsch, his confidence was utterly shot. A lesson to Kade Chandler, JVR and Dan Turner also. Despite the 4 points, hard to draw anything positive 

I can...4 points and on top of the ladder for a little while. 

Can someone who was at the game tell me if Langdon was playing or was the dude in #15 a cardboard cutout of him? Never seen him less influential. 

4 minutes ago, Boots and all said:

I'm trying to work out whether our backline jitters are due to less midfield pressure or they're just not functioning that well. Opposition sides seem to be getting more uncontested marks in the F50 with run through the midfield. Also, May and Lever do a whole lot of great stuff every game but they both seem to be fumbling more this season.

We were nowhere to be seen through the midfield. It was one of those games where loose balls and mongrel kicks landed in their laps a lot too. Back line can’t do much when they kept running out the front of contest.

Hunter and Langdon both ordinary. Suns  pick their way through. Regardless of what many think that’s a great win. 

Edited May 6, 20231 yr by Roost it far

We’re loading. Don’t stress. Worked fine for us last year ;) 

3 minutes ago, Boots and all said:

I'm trying to work out whether our backline jitters are due to less midfield pressure or they're just not functioning that well. Opposition sides seem to be getting more uncontested marks in the F50 with run through the midfield. Also, May and Lever do a whole lot of great stuff every game but they both seem to be fumbling more this season.

I'd say the lack of midfield pressure was the main factor but whenever the ball hit the deck in our D50, we fumbled, invited pressure and only occasionally made good decisions on the rebound. We need some better ball users in the backline. Salem is sorely missed.

4 minutes ago, Boots and all said:

I'm trying to work out whether our backline jitters are due to less midfield pressure or they're just not functioning that well. Opposition sides seem to be getting more uncontested marks in the F50 with run through the midfield. Also, May and Lever do a whole lot of great stuff every game but they both seem to be fumbling more this season.

No Petty, simple as that for mine. No coincidence that they couldn't get past half majority of the last qtr when Petty was back. Vital to the structure the past 3 years

Petty May lever

may and petty body the bigger fwds and lever spoils or intercepts

we’ve tried lever May as the only key defenders but the dividend of petty fwd isn’t adequate compensation 

We were beaten on clearances but fought it out

16 minutes ago, bobby1554 said:

No, but it will get us there. Was always going to be a tough game, and I will take any win from that. Again, we almost kicked 100 points, so even though the forward line needs work, we are still scoring. We will get better as the year goes on. No point playing your best footy now. As Goody always says, the season is a marathon, no point going too hard early

The idea is to play consistent footy that will stand up in finals. 
 

Yeah it was a tough game finals pressure will be immense compared to that and in my opinion we  aren’t working hard enough and applying enough pressure to win a final. If you think it’s gonna ‘click’ come September you’re a real gambler. 

Last year a lot called for petty to be pushed up forward. It took a whole season and now Goody doesn’t want to budge. 
 

Turner doesn’t look anywhere near it. Perhaps not the right matchup but he lost to a D class KPF. 

Our stoppage structure is just 1 dimensional we can’t seem to stop an opposition clean exit for weeks now. 

Rebound teams will murder us when our forwards can’t hold territory, it just keeps coming out too easy. 

It’s still early season but nothing about us is convincing atm. We haven’t really beaten anyone and have nearly lost to Tigers and now Suns.

And we have a few easy kills coming up so we are not going to know for a while yet.

Played terribly and still won.
That's what good sides do apparently.
 

Looking on the bright side, we won.

2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Grundy might have something more to offer if he can be coached up.

Hunter, nope, it’s been 8 weeks now of progressively less interest in putting his body on the line or making quick decisions. And his brain is making choices his stumpy little legs can’t cash. 

Im thinking Harmes for Hunter.

Gus & Kozzy some more mid field minutes?

A tad more time for Viney & Tracc up forward?

Tracc has some fab moments and stints within games, occasionally a bit of a blinder like last week but oppo not rated.  For mine he is running past a few too many contests too easily.

Would also like to see Tracc's center & stoppage clearance numbers this season vs last.  My gut feel is too much is being left to Clarry and Viney now and Vines aint getting any younger.

If there's any truth to that last scenario you are gonna get smacked up in the  middle by the better mid fields i reckon and get scored on pretty quickly at times under the 666

Edited May 6, 20231 yr by Demon Dynasty

I am glad we got the 4 points. This thread has some of the worst whinging after a win I have seen. Nearly every one is bagging May but how much influence on the game did King have ? Not much I would say. Also Oliver who I thaught had a great last quarter when it mattered. Will say that Fritta and Langdon should have stayed home.

They played well, we didn't.

 

Bank the four points and move on.

 

Time to move Petty back as well methinks.

Scratched my brain and came up with a positive…… of sorts.  Our three poorest games this year (the two losses and this one) were all interstate games.

What is ironic was that in the prior two seasons we were the interstate game champions.  Go figure….. (I can’t)

Just now, dl4e said:

I am glad we got the 4 points. This thread has some of the worst whinging after a win I have seen. Nearly every one is bagging May but how much influence on the game did King have ? Not much I would say. Also Oliver who I thaught had a great last quarter when it mattered. Will say that Fritta and Langdon should have stayed home.

👍

14 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

Of course this thread will get stuck into Goodwin.

I thought his decision to put Vinny on Royal was critical. Rachel is absolutely killing us.

 

AllI thought his decision to put Viney on Rowell was critical. Rowell was absolutely killing us.

 

Also, a lot of criticism of Oliver in this thread. I thought he was by miles our best player with his effort and reliability under pressure.

Good post. It was the lack of marking that really stood out and we did look slow tbh. It was a lucky win in the end.

I just hope gcs are better than everyone gives them credit.

20 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Hunter’s cooked and Grundy’s a headless chook so there goes our recruits from last year.

Fritsch needs a wake up call.

Chandler’s struggling with his leg, had no explosiveness in the second half. 

I thought Oliver had left behind these shocker games in 2020 but he’s had a few this year now.

May and Lever madness bubbling along. Petty could help but he gives no offensive drive and that’s how the ball gets stuck at the wrong end. Disco was really coming in to the game late in the 3rd with some intercept marks, not sure they subbed the right guy.

When a team turns up the pressure and speed and we can’t get the backline set we’re coughing up goals.

And our ball movement just becomes gimmicky or bombing because too few of our players make quick accurate decisions.

What is this?

For every good post of yours, there are five examples of stilted overreaction or wild misreads.

Harmes was good when he came on.

every neutral watching it that has been messaging me has been saying what a cracking contest it was and that we got away with one

then i remind them of all the non-frees to koz in front of goal and they pipe down

i thought it was a great watch, if not a nerve-wracking one

When of all people, Ben King, ankled May in the last quarter , I think it showed everyone in the AFL he is still carrying some type of calf injury. 

I’m worried that he is on a very steep downhill slope past his best. 

Edited May 6, 20231 yr by Gawndy the Great

Good to get 4 points out of that. Sun's were very good I thought. 

Onwards and upwards 

14 minutes ago, deejammin' said:

Wins a win but:

Petty forward experiment is over when playing teams with big forwards. Needed him back tonight, Turner looked all at sea on Casboult and didn’t show his best until moved off him early in the last. Unfortunately no KPF are putting their hands up but I think we have to pull the trigger, BBB, Schache, Joel Smith, Whoever, we need Petty back. 
I hope JVR doesn’t get suspended but given how the MRO hates MFC fully expecting 3 weeks. 
Most of all Yze and the mids need to get to serious work, for a team that “prides itself” on contest we were absolutely smashed tonight by a young, inexperienced and shallow midfield, they are good but that was embarrassing.
 

Tell me you're joking. Amazing.