1 hour ago, JJR said:

I just found a very reliable source (cannot name) we are going for pick 1 to get Reid. I was not told what we are giving, just that we’re trying for pick 1. 

This thread?

4 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

The Haynes thing makes sense to me although I'm confused there's no media noise around it. 

Given the cash we've freed up, surely it goes to Haynes for one year and then we have some big money to throw at Ben King, JUH or Logan McDonald as they're all coming out of contract at the end of 2024.

It gives us GWS first pick which would increase our chances of getting Reid or at least moving up to the top three of the draft? 

Genuinely hoping this happens now. Haynes is a super smart defender and the perfect hybrid. Would be a great fit imo. 

It doesn't make sense to me. If he has only 1 year left on his contract, why would GWS need a salary cap dump? Unless they are getting in a player this year for 800k, what's the point? Keep him 1 more year, save your draft pick and let him go at the end of 2024.

8 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

It’s been discussed numerous times. It’s essentially a replica of the Bowes trade. 
Who the hell would pay Haynes $1.2mil if it didn’t come with perks? 
GWS needs to get him off their books. 

It's also been said numerous times that GWS don't need to get him off the books.

They can afford him, and won't be packaging a deal to ship him off.  It is a lot owed to him but it's only for next year. After that he is off the books. (Out of contract)

If a club has missed managed so bad that one player for one year has to get off the books they wouldn't be in the AFL.

 

If GWS were desperately tight for cap space, they could extend Haynes 1 year over 2 years, like we did with T Mac. 

4 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

The Haynes thing makes sense to me although I'm confused there's no media noise around it. 

Given the cash we've freed up, surely it goes to Haynes for one year and then we have some big money to throw at Ben King, JUH or Logan McDonald as they're all coming out of contract at the end of 2024.

It gives us GWS first pick which would increase our chances of getting Reid or at least moving up to the top three of the draft? 

Genuinely hoping this happens now. Haynes is a super smart defender and the perfect hybrid. Would be a great fit imo. 

It only makes sense if GWS need the cap space in 2024. Given they have said  publicly they will keep him, they would have to have a new player they are targeting and for whom they need cap space. 

They do not seem anywhere near as desperate as GC was last year and I highly doubt they have a target lined up who will be so promising that they are prepared to trade out pick 7.

42 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

It only makes sense if GWS need the cap space in 2024. Given they have said  publicly they will keep him, they would have to have a new player they are targeting and for whom they need cap space. 

They do not seem anywhere near as desperate as GC was last year and I highly doubt they have a target lined up who will be so promising that they are prepared to trade out pick 7.

Right, I didn't know they'd come out publicly and said they'd keep him. 

Thought they were keen to move him on but thanks for the update. 

6 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

The Haynes thing makes sense to me although I'm confused there's no media noise around it. 

Given the cash we've freed up, surely it goes to Haynes for one year and then we have some big money to throw at Ben King, JUH or Logan McDonald as they're all coming out of contract at the end of 2024.

It gives us GWS first pick which would increase our chances of getting Reid or at least moving up to the top three of the draft? 

Genuinely hoping this happens now. Haynes is a super smart defender and the perfect hybrid. Would be a great fit imo. 

TBH it’s not anything other than the the thoughts of a few of us, that it could make sense to both clubs and is a possible deal, not a probable one.

1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

It only makes sense if GWS need the cap space in 2024. Given they have said  publicly they will keep him, they would have to have a new player they are targeting and for whom they need cap space. 

They do not seem anywhere near as desperate as GC was last year and I highly doubt they have a target lined up who will be so promising that they are prepared to trade out pick 7.

Would you want to publicise it though? Or would you try to work out a deal first to get him mostly off your books without having picks come into play?

If it wasn’t an issue, why not honour the contract? It’s a lot to keep for depth - i get that - but I think that they are overextended for 2024 and we may some action in the coming days. Not a rumour - just a gut feel. 

1 hour ago, RyanD said:

It doesn't make sense to me. If he has only 1 year left on his contract, why would GWS need a salary cap dump? Unless they are getting in a player this year for 800k, what's the point? Keep him 1 more year, save your draft pick and let him go at the end of 2024.

That very well could be the case.

 

12 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Not many 23 year old dudes move to be near their sister

Unless they're from Adelaide.... BROO-HOO-HA-HA-HAAAA! 

Oh...... love an incest joke. Probably won't make it past the mods.... 🤪

10 hours ago, binman said:

I've heard they both want to move to Nhill. 

Nah, there's nothing in that...

Haynes is 31 years old and the game has gone past him. Anybody thinking it's a good idea to bring him across obviously haven't watched GWS closely in recent times.

This talk of packaging him with pick 7 is La La Land stuff. Time to move on.

 

1 minute ago, FTB said:

Haynes is 31 years old and the game has gone past him. Anybody thinking it's a good idea to bring him across obviously haven't watched GWS closely in recent times.

This talk of packaging him with pick 7 is La La Land stuff. Time to move on.

 

Its only a good idea if its a salary cap dump accompanied by their first draft pick from Tigers. That is fairly obvious. GWS may not be interested and it may indeed be La La Land stuff in that regard. But if it is available then Haynes actual playing ability is irrelevant. We'd be buying Pick 6 with the 2024 contract value we absorb and the list spot. 

20 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

Sweet Garbo. 

You're not understanding. 

This is not about 'rushing' into a trade. I know as much or as little as you!!!! 

Here's what we've heard from the media: Petty has a desire to get back to SA at some point. And Adelaide are hell bent on getting him this trade period and have offered what myself and many believe to be overs in pick 10, 20 and McAdam. 

Now. 

If that is true, we'd be a poorly run club not to entertain this offer given the options it gives us going forward. 

What are those options, (everyone keeps asking me). I don't [censored] know!!!! 

BUT!! 

What I do know is that we already have a strong draft hand. We have a fantastic list manager and recruiter and have an enormously positive track record in this space. 

What people on demonland need to get in their heads is what our future looks like post Gawn and May. Where will our list be? What kind of pain needs to be inflicted now to give us a positive looking future? 

It honestly seems like nobody is thinking that way. 

I don't care if we don't make finals next year or the year after if it means we can have another four cracks at it in three-four years time. 

You also have to look at what that kind of thing does for the growth of the club as far as new supporter and membership goes...

I don't get why people don't think of this? 

You want flags now and only now?!

We just missed out on two golden opportunities. Time to look forward with this list and entertain any and all offers that could benefit our club going forward.

Sometimes I think of this place as being a cult. And Saty runs it. 

Saty would still have Jordie McKenzie, Rohan Bail and Matthew Bate as our leadership group promising that they're improving every pre-season. 

(all the while we'd be bottom of the ladder losing games by 100 points). 

where is the scooter man??

Could someone please give me an update of who we will have and what draft picks at the end of the trade period

12 hours ago, binman said:

I've heard they both want to move to Nhill. 

Zero chance

I am a bit disillusioned with no-one really wanting to join us. 

Just now, Damo said:

I am a bit disillusioned with no-one really wanting to join us. 

Of all the players moving who do you want or who do we need?

We have 2 players, a forward/ruck and a mid size forward that want to come to us.

Not sure who we would want

6 minutes ago, Damo said:

I am a bit disillusioned with no-one really wanting to join us. 

Beside McAdam and Fullarton..?

7 minutes ago, Damo said:

I am a bit disillusioned with no-one really wanting to join us. 

McAdam and Fullarton say hi.

But seriously, we now don’t need to take not best 23 players and on that basis,  maybe haven’t really gone hard for anyone.

2 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

Beside McAdam and Fullarton..?

Well yes... but small beer really, compared with those jumping ship to other large clubs in contention.

15 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

Could someone please give me an update of who we will have and what draft picks at the end of the trade period

I'd suggest checking in end of next week.

14 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Zero chance

Nada?

2 minutes ago, Damo said:

Well yes... but small beer really, compared with those jumping ship to other large clubs in contention.

like who?

there's not many quality players on the move this off-season

mckay? pass

doedee? pass

grundy? tried that, didn't work

adams? pass

13 minutes ago, Damo said:

I am a bit disillusioned with no-one really wanting to join us. 

Apart from Lachie Shultz who I can understand wanting to go to Collingwood over anyone, premiership team playing to a packed G every week. There is no one else I'd be wanting