1 minute ago, dworship said:

You no doubt think your amusing but it wouldn't be the first time you turned out to be a fool. If you've been here long enough you'll know I will own my mistaken beliefs. In your case I will say I don't suffer fools gladly and if I'm the one I'll own it.

3 minutes ago, adonski said:

No I don't. If I'm the fool. I'm sure I won't pity you either.

Edited January 13, 20233 yr by dworship

Jackson was garbage against Freo last year averaging all of 1 mark in both games for someone that’s probably taller than 85-90% of the league.

If Kozzie has a stinker against Port in round 10, I’m panicking.

 

 

What does it say? 

Paywall...

6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

What does it say? 

Paywall...

Nothing we haven't heard before and purely conjecture.

30 minutes ago, loges said:

Nothing we haven't heard before and purely conjecture.

Ooh can we have some more? 😄

I think what this situation is really missing is Mick Malthouse's opinion.

On 1/14/2023 at 12:35 AM, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Jackson was garbage against Freo last year averaging all of 1 mark in both games for someone that’s probably taller than 85-90% of the league.

If Kozzie has a stinker against Port in round 10, I’m panicking.

 

Kozzie had a pearler against Port in round 18 last year kicking 6.!!!

1 hour ago, DeeZone said:

Kozzie had a pearler against Port in round 18 last year kicking 6.!!!

He most certainly did.

One of the most dominant match winning performances I've seen from an MFC player. Was the clear difference in a win or a loss.

February is rolling along and  KP still hasnt re-signed. We live in troubled and uncertain times.

Yep

wonder when interest moves to concern and then to worry. From there it's despair before angry acceptance.

From a trade aspect I have no idea what the correct tactics are but I hope we have a better plan than we did for Jackson.

Have great sympathy for our list/salary cap management staff. The general rule is that players are well paid until say 25 years of age at which time they get the big deal. We were unlucky that Jackson got the mega deal offer at 21. Looking like Kozzie will get a similar offer.

A perfect storm when for the first time in decades we have 5 plus very good/elite players in the over 25 brigade

1 hour ago, Deebauched said:

February is rolling along and  KP still hasnt re-signed. We live in troubled and uncertain times.

I thought it was still January.

2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I thought it was still January.

2 days before the deadline..and Feb still hasn't committed. Jan and March may just have to play larger roles if it leaves. 

42 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

I hope we have a better plan than we did for Jackson.

Genuine question. What better plan do you think the Club could have had for Jackson. Obviously it was a dud trade but what better trade do you think could have been achieved. They didn't have any better picks to offer. Similarly Port don't have a first rounder in this draft. They'll have to give up something serious to get a first rounder this year. Next year's first rounder won't do it. I hope. Surely they'd have to lose a player or players to make it happen this trade period. I'm sure the Club has tried very hard to avoid another Jackson circus so you'd have to think that's been a fail and the writing is on the wall. 

Pickett may leave or he may not. If we win the Premiership this year at the G he can play for Collingwood in 24 for all I’ll care!

29 minutes ago, Its Time for Another said:

Genuine question. What better plan do you think the Club could have had for Jackson.

As I said in my post I have no idea but it's clear that the Jackson strategy failed. They've had a year to think up a better one.

At the start of the Jackson saga most said Freo didn't have the "trade resources" but turned out they did. The problem is that if you offer a player mega dollars no other club than the offering club is likely to compete. That leaves you with the choice of taking what is offered or forcing the player into the PSD.

One strategy is to get other clubs interested in the player. If needed offer to pay part of the salary for a few years. Assuming you can attract interest from elsewhere and thus scaring off the "attacking club" the player is more likely to stay. Not perfect by any means but it's a strategy.

Edited January 30, 20233 yr by Diamond_Jim

12 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

As I said in my post I have no idea but it's clear that the Jackson strategy failed. They've had a year to think up a better one.

At the start of the Jackson saga most said Freo didn't have the "trade resources" but turned out they did. The problem is that if you offer a player mega dollars no other club than the offering club is likely to compete. That leaves you with the choice of taking what is offered or forcing the player into the PSD.

One strategy is to get other clubs interested in the player. If needed offer to pay part of the salary for a few years. Assuming you can attract interest from elsewhere and thus scaring off the "attacking club" the player is more likely to stay. Not perfect by any means but it's a strategy.

Except that if he wants to get away from Melbourne ( the city...not the club) and if wants to be in SA then its only two clubs isn't it. Then, if he's made up his mind on one of them, then its the Jackson scenario repeated. Losing Kozzy would be an even more bitter pill to swallow imo. Hard to know if theres any strategy we can employ in this circumstance.

Just thinking out loud.

Wouldn't it be great if this thread was closed down until Kozzy signs on with us.

Don't think I could stand another Jacko thread.

This thread has a stench about it that reeks of the poor Melbourne of old. Lets close it down and instead celebrate when Kozzy signs a long term deal.

4 hours ago, Roost it far said:

Pickett may leave or he may not. If we win the Premiership this year at the G he can play for Collingwood in 24 for all I’ll care!

that last line …

5 hours ago, Its Time for Another said:

Genuine question. What better plan do you think the Club could have had for Jackson. Obviously it was a dud trade but what better trade do you think could have been achieved. They didn't have any better picks to offer. Similarly Port don't have a first rounder in this draft. They'll have to give up something serious to get a first rounder this year. Next year's first rounder won't do it. I hope. Surely they'd have to lose a player or players to make it happen this trade period. I'm sure the Club has tried very hard to avoid another Jackson circus so you'd have to think that's been a fail and the writing is on the wall. 

Similar to what Binman said about LJ, is Pickett what Port need? Obviously he’s a class player and every club would love to have him on their list but at what cost. Have they got bigger needs? Having said that we still don’t know how good he will get.

6 hours ago, Deebauched said:

February is rolling along and  KP still hasnt re-signed. We live in troubled and uncertain times.

If Koz is going to play a greater role in midfield, there is no way he signs before season kicks off. 
 

If he signs now and has a blazing start to the season, he’d be leaving a heap of cash on the table. Would love for him to sign, but I think he’ll hold off until he’s had a chunk of the season behind him to help add to his case.

IMO if he wanted to stay he would have signed by now. Time will tell. 

Hopefully he has a good season and keeps his trade value up so that we can hopefully get a good deal for him. 

It’s annoying as I thought our good players would want to stay (I know some have already extended) given the position we are in now. 

53 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

IMO if he wanted to stay he would have signed by now. Time will tell. 

Hopefully he has a good season and keeps his trade value up so that we can hopefully get a good deal for him. 

It’s annoying as I thought our good players would want to stay (I know some have already extended) given the position we are in now. 

Just like Brayshaw?