TeamPlayedFine39 8,525 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Return to Glory said: I'm certainly familiar with the first part but I digress. Freo has a very good draw and LJ won't continue to play at that low level. FWIW… AFL media has Freo’s draw ranked the equal most difficult and FoxFooty has it ranked the 4th most difficult. Its starts out easy and gets tough in the second half. They were expected to easily bank the first two games. Edited March 26, 2023 by TeamPlayedFine39 5 1 Quote
binman 44,851 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said: FWIW… AFL media has Freo’s draw ranked the equal most difficult and FoxFooty has it ranked the 4th most difficult. Its starts out easy and gets tough in the second half. They were expected to easily bank the first two games. Yep. And losing to the roos AT HOME in round two, after losing round one, is a shocker. 7 Quote
ANG13 2,111 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 1 hour ago, deanox said: At 0-2 and having lost to St Kilda and North, they are looking precarious. With that start it is a rare season that makes finals. But even if they do improve, it would be unprecedented to make top 4 from here, which is a massive win for us. As bad as they have been so far they could well be on the same wins as us after next weekend. 1 Quote
fr_ap 2,566 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) There is something true to all walks of life about the Jackson trade - rarely do people who achieve significant emotional (premiership, fulfilment, contentedness) & financial success at a very young age go on to even better things. It's the reason child actors seem to inevitably go off the rails, happens in the Corporate world all too often and especially with junior sportsmen who very quickly achieve what they always dream of. There are exceptions of course - Joel Selwood would be one -but he has clearly always been driven by something internal (competitiveness, pride, a chip on the shoulder?) rather than external factors. All professionals need to be self-motivated - they'd never make it to the grade otherwise, but there would be degrees of it. Jackson is physically gifted, but could have picked basketball, and achieved plaudits, success and now money in his preferred environment very young. There is something to be said for the journey and discovery of delayed gratification. IMO those close to him have misguided him and selected short term outcomes over long. Nonetheless he has all the tools and I wish him well long term....but not so much this year for our draft hand sake! There are many other examples in the AFL of a newly hyped player achieving enormous success/money only to fail to carve out a long term career. Boyd, Patto, Hogan, you can keep going Edited March 26, 2023 by fr_ap 16 1 Quote
Bombay Airconditioning 6,510 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, fr_ap said: There is something true to all walks of life about the Jackson trade - rarely do people who achieve significant emotional (premiership, fulfilment, contentedness) & financial success at a very young age go on to even better things. It's the reason child actors seem to inevitably go off the rails, happens in the Corporate world all too often and especially with junior sportsmen who very quickly achieve what they always dream of. There are exceptions of course - Joel Selwood would be one -but he has clearly always been driven by something internal (competitiveness, pride, a chip on the shoulder?) rather than external factors. All professionals need to be self-motivated - they'd never make it to the grade otherwise, but there would be degrees of it. Jackson is physically gifted, but could have picked basketball, and achieved plaudits, success and now money in his preferred environment very young. There is something to be said for the journey and discovery of delayed gratification. IMO those close to him have misguided him and selected short term outcomes over long. Nonetheless he has all the tools and I wish him well long term....but not so much this year for our draft hand sake! Great post. 4 Quote
Greendale 350 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 If Jackson and the club didn't have to deal with the negativity of his contract situation last year I think we would have had a noticeably better chance at winning the flag. For this I blame Freo and I only hope for the worst for them. 9 Quote
DubDee 26,682 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 best part about early losses is they only need a few more and then season will be over early. they’ll start looking to next year and we’ll be looking at top 5 picks!! 5 Quote
Master Deebater 500 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 47 minutes ago, fr_ap said: There is something true to all walks of life about the Jackson trade - rarely do people who achieve significant emotional (premiership, fulfilment, contentedness) & financial success at a very young age go on to even better things. It's the reason child actors seem to inevitably go off the rails, happens in the Corporate world all too often and especially with junior sportsmen who very quickly achieve what they always dream of. There are exceptions of course - Joel Selwood would be one -but he has clearly always been driven by something internal (competitiveness, pride, a chip on the shoulder?) rather than external factors. All professionals need to be self-motivated - they'd never make it to the grade otherwise, but there would be degrees of it. Jackson is physically gifted, but could have picked basketball, and achieved plaudits, success and now money in his preferred environment very young. There is something to be said for the journey and discovery of delayed gratification. IMO those close to him have misguided him and selected short term outcomes over long. Nonetheless he has all the tools and I wish him well long term....but not so much this year for our draft hand sake! There are many other examples in the AFL of a newly hyped player achieving enormous success/money only to fail to carve out a long term career. Boyd, Patto, Hogan, you can keep going Totally agree with this . I've seen this scenario time & time again. 1 Quote
ElDiablo14 5,061 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 1 hour ago, binman said: Yep. And losing to the roos AT HOME in round two, after losing round one, is a shocker. Losing to West Coast in the Derby would be the last nail in the coffin for their finals aspirations. 4 Quote
Mazer Rackham 14,972 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 1 minute ago, ElDiablo14 said: Losing to West Coast in the Derby would be the last nail in the coffin for their finals aspirations. and for their self respect 2 1 Quote
darkhorse72 1,943 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said: Losing to West Coast in the Derby would be the last nail in the coffin for their finals aspirations. Losing to west coat next week will end their season as a meaningful venture. More so due to how the eagles are travelling. 1 Quote
Docs Demons 1,810 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said: Losing to West Coast in the Derby would be the last nail in the coffin for their finals aspirations. And I would suggest their Coach. 1 Quote
Sideshow Bob 2,498 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 How good is it having 3 teams to support this year 1. The Dees 2. Whoever plays Collingwood And the new comer 3. Whoever Plays Freo So much more interest in this season - statistically interest level is up by 50%.... 10 10 1 Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 this thread is working wonders long may it continue 4 2 1 Quote
BDA 23,048 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 I don't think I've ever barracked for West Coast before. even when they played the pies in the granny i was neutral. but it'll be Go Eagles Go in this household next weekend. followed by fumigation and a long shower. 5 1 11 Quote
Deebauched 1,220 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 Looking at Freo Norff highlights. Jackson missed two simple marks without pressure/ contest. He just stands around and doesnt seem to fit into any game plan. Looking forward to the derby next week. Rest Coast will give themselves a chance. 1 Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 If Freo lose the derby next week, it’s all over for them. 3 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 43 minutes ago, BDA said: I don't think I've ever barracked for West Coast before. even when they played the pies in the granny i was neutral. but it'll be Go Eagles Go in this household next weekend. followed by fumigation and a long shower. Let's go Coasters! 1 Quote
Wodjathefirst 2,671 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 1 hour ago, ElDiablo14 said: Losing to West Coast in the Derby would be the last nail in the coffin for their finals aspirations. Go Wiggles!!! Never thought I’d say that . Hang on, I was wrong. I recall barracking hard for them in the GF a few years ago when they played Collingwood. 1 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 2 hours ago, DubDee said: best part about early losses is they only need a few more and then season will be over early. they’ll start looking to next year and we’ll be looking at top 5 picks!! You don't want to be zip and 3! 1 Quote
demosaw 1,155 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 It was never this cool 😎 but time to get on the West Coast 1 1 Quote
rpfc 29,030 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 2 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said: Losing to West Coast in the Derby would be the last nail in the coffin for their finals aspirations. Maybe but remember; Brad Green after we won our first game of the year in Rd 10 in 2007 said ‘we can still play finals and we should aim for that.’ And you know what happened? ☺️ We finished 3rd last in 5 wins… … (cough) 1 Quote
adonski 13,280 Posted March 26, 2023 Author Posted March 26, 2023 Hopefully the Giants can play the Eagles into form in preparation for next weeks derby 3 Quote
ChaserJ 5,192 Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 3 hours ago, adonski said: Hopefully the Giants can play the Eagles into form in preparation for next weeks derby Giants did their bit and kept us in the 8 to boot. 2 Quote
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