8 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

I'm certainly familiar with the first part but I digress. Freo has a very good draw and LJ won't continue to play at that low level.

FWIW… AFL media has Freo’s draw ranked the equal most difficult and FoxFooty has it ranked the 4th most difficult.

Its starts out easy and gets tough in the second half.  They were expected to easily bank the first two games.

 

 

Edited March 26, 20233 yr by TeamPlayedFine39

17 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

FWIW… AFL media has Freo’s draw ranked the equal most difficult and FoxFooty has it ranked the 4th most difficult.

Its starts out easy and gets tough in the second half.  They were expected to easily bank the first two games.

 

 

Yep.

And losing to the roos AT HOME in round two, after losing round one, is a shocker.

1 hour ago, deanox said:

At 0-2 and having lost to St Kilda and North, they are looking precarious.

With that start it is a rare season that makes finals.

But even if they do improve, it would be unprecedented to make top 4 from here, which is a massive win for us. 

As bad as they have been so far they could well be on the same wins as us after next weekend. 

There is something true to all walks of life about the Jackson trade - rarely do people who achieve significant emotional (premiership, fulfilment, contentedness) & financial success at a very young age go on to even better things. 

It's the reason child actors seem to inevitably go off the rails, happens in the Corporate world all too often and especially with junior sportsmen who very quickly achieve what they always dream of. There are exceptions of course - Joel Selwood would be one -but he has clearly always been driven by something internal (competitiveness, pride, a chip on the shoulder?) rather than external factors. All professionals need to be self-motivated - they'd never make it to the grade otherwise, but there would be degrees of it. Jackson is physically gifted, but could have picked basketball, and achieved plaudits, success and now money in his preferred environment very young.

There is something to be said for the journey and discovery of delayed gratification. IMO those close to him have misguided him and selected short term outcomes over long. 

Nonetheless he has all the tools and I wish him well long term....but not so much this year for our draft hand sake!

There are many other examples in the AFL of a newly hyped player achieving enormous success/money only to fail to carve out a long term career. Boyd, Patto, Hogan, you can keep going

 

Edited March 26, 20233 yr by fr_ap

2 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

There is something true to all walks of life about the Jackson trade - rarely do people who achieve significant emotional (premiership, fulfilment, contentedness) & financial success at a very young age go on to even better things. 

It's the reason child actors seem to inevitably go off the rails, happens in the Corporate world all too often and especially with junior sportsmen who very quickly achieve what they always dream of. There are exceptions of course - Joel Selwood would be one -but he has clearly always been driven by something internal (competitiveness, pride, a chip on the shoulder?) rather than external factors. All professionals need to be self-motivated - they'd never make it to the grade otherwise, but there would be degrees of it. Jackson is physically gifted, but could have picked basketball, and achieved plaudits, success and now money in his preferred environment very young.

There is something to be said for the journey and discovery of delayed gratification. IMO those close to him have misguided him and selected short term outcomes over long. 

Nonetheless he has all the tools and I wish him well long term....but not so much this year for our draft hand sake!

Great post.

If Jackson and the club didn't have to deal with the negativity of his contract situation last year I think we would have had a noticeably better chance at winning the flag. For this I blame Freo and I only hope for the worst for them. 

best part about early losses is they only need a few more and then season will be over early. they’ll start looking to next year and we’ll be looking at top 5 picks!!

47 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

There is something true to all walks of life about the Jackson trade - rarely do people who achieve significant emotional (premiership, fulfilment, contentedness) & financial success at a very young age go on to even better things. 

It's the reason child actors seem to inevitably go off the rails, happens in the Corporate world all too often and especially with junior sportsmen who very quickly achieve what they always dream of. There are exceptions of course - Joel Selwood would be one -but he has clearly always been driven by something internal (competitiveness, pride, a chip on the shoulder?) rather than external factors. All professionals need to be self-motivated - they'd never make it to the grade otherwise, but there would be degrees of it. Jackson is physically gifted, but could have picked basketball, and achieved plaudits, success and now money in his preferred environment very young.

There is something to be said for the journey and discovery of delayed gratification. IMO those close to him have misguided him and selected short term outcomes over long. 

Nonetheless he has all the tools and I wish him well long term....but not so much this year for our draft hand sake!

There are many other examples in the AFL of a newly hyped player achieving enormous success/money only to fail to carve out a long term career. Boyd, Patto, Hogan, you can keep going

 

Totally agree with this . I've seen this scenario time & time again.

1 hour ago, binman said:

Yep.

And losing to the roos AT HOME in round two, after losing round one, is a shocker.

Losing to West Coast in the Derby would be the last nail in the coffin for their finals aspirations.

1 minute ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Losing to West Coast in the Derby would be the last nail in the coffin for their finals aspirations.

and for their self respect

7 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Losing to West Coast in the Derby would be the last nail in the coffin for their finals aspirations.

Losing to west coat next week will end their season as a meaningful venture.  More so due to how the eagles are travelling. 

10 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Losing to West Coast in the Derby would be the last nail in the coffin for their finals aspirations.

And I would suggest their Coach.

How good is it having 3 teams to support this year

1. The Dees

2. Whoever plays Collingwood

And the new comer 

3. Whoever Plays Freo 

 

So much more interest in this season - statistically interest level is up by 50%....

 

this thread is working wonders

long may it continue

I don't think I've ever barracked for West Coast before. even when they played the pies in the granny i was neutral.

but it'll be Go Eagles Go in this household next weekend.

followed by fumigation and a long shower.

Looking at Freo Norff highlights.

Jackson missed two simple marks without pressure/ contest. He just stands around and doesnt seem to fit into any game plan.

Looking forward to the derby next week.

Rest Coast will give themselves a chance.

If Freo lose the derby next week, it’s all over for them. 

43 minutes ago, BDA said:

I don't think I've ever barracked for West Coast before. even when they played the pies in the granny i was neutral.

but it'll be Go Eagles Go in this household next weekend.

followed by fumigation and a long shower.

Let's go Coasters!

1 hour ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Losing to West Coast in the Derby would be the last nail in the coffin for their finals aspirations.

Go Wiggles!!! Never thought I’d say that .

Hang on, I was wrong. I recall barracking hard for them in the GF  a few years ago when they played Collingwood. 

2 hours ago, DubDee said:

best part about early losses is they only need a few more and then season will be over early. they’ll start looking to next year and we’ll be looking at top 5 picks!!

You don't want to be zip and 3!

It was never this cool 😎 but time to get on the West Coast

2 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Losing to West Coast in the Derby would be the last nail in the coffin for their finals aspirations.

Maybe but remember; Brad Green after we won our first game of the year in Rd 10 in 2007 said ‘we can still play finals and we should aim for that.’

And you know what happened? ☺️

We finished 3rd last in 5 wins…

…

(cough)

Hopefully the Giants can play the Eagles into form in preparation for next weeks derby

Fremantle D0-2kers

3 hours ago, adonski said:

Hopefully the Giants can play the Eagles into form in preparation for next weeks derby

Giants did their bit and kept us in the 8 to boot.