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PODCAST: Season Review & Trade Wrap


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We'll be going LIVE on Wednesday Night (12/10) @ 8:30pm with our Season Review & Trade Wrap Up.

Rather than ask our listeners for their questions we'd love to get your thoughts on some of the topics we're going to discuss.

Please give us your thoughts on any of the following and we'll read it out on the show.

* What went right?

* What went wrong?

* What needs to improve?

* What are the challenges/danger signs for 2023 (on or off-field)?

If you have any thoughts on the Trade and Draft period feel free to post your comments and we'll read them out too.

Of course you can also ask the panel any questions you might have.

Feel free to leave us a message to play on the show too by calling 03 9016 3666 (don't worry no one answer the phone - just let it ring out and leave your question or comment).

Listen & Chat LIVE: https://demonland.com/podcast

Call: 03 9016 3666

Skype: Demonland31

 

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Were the panel at all surprised by the Best and Fairest results? Not necessarily the Top 5 but some of the other results. I thought. ANB and Spargo were high and  Harry Petty was low. James Jordon was in the Top 5 just prior to him being dropped.

Leaderboard

608 – Clayton Oliver

553 – Christian Petracca

473 – Steven May

471 – Jack Viney

446 – Angus Brayshaw

430 – Max Gawn

395 – Bayley Fritsch

391 – Kysaiah Pickett

384 – Alex Neal-Bullen

367 – Ed Langdon

360 – Tom Sparrow

358 – James Jordon

349 – Charlie Spargo

332 – Luke Jackson

322 – Harry Petty

313 – James Harmes

237 – Jayden Hunt

236 – Ben Brown

236 – Jake Lever

220 – Jake Bowey

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I guess my main query is why did we change our strategy from being a high running high scoring second half side to being a higher scoring first half team that couldn’t run the game out. Was it team structure/ team fitness or change in game plan?
How do we address our poor second halves, do we have the right mix in the FD?

To play deeper into the finals in 2023 where do you think that our improvement will come from?

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Hi  fellers love your poddys great work.

Do you think there may be more quality players go to other clubs from the Dees. And who is the tips in the Jacko deal that we may see arrive.

Regards Dave

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I would like to discuss the brokenness of the draft system.

Many top draft picks barely staying for 2-3 years with the teams that gave them a go.

What would you do to make it fairer for struggling clubs? (Not that we are one of them, but we could be in the future)

I am filthy about Jackson, especially with all the information that has transpired today.

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Firstly thank you guys for all of your measured analysis during the year on this podcast.

Given the experience of drafting Luke Jackson from WA and his subsequent request to go home after his first contract are you at all sheepish on drafting kids from interstate with high picks in the future?

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1 hour ago, Lefty said:

Firstly thank you guys for all of your measured analysis during the year on this podcast.

Given the experience of drafting Luke Jackson from WA and his subsequent request to go home after his first contract are you at all sheepish on drafting kids from interstate with high picks in the future?

A big thank you to the panel for raising the bar and taking the podcast to the next level this season. Our boys might not have gone back to back but you guys surely did.

Do you think we will go through another season of will he or won't he in regards to Kosi? Port won't quit this one and will be getting into Kosi or his management at every opportunity. They will throw a huge long term contract at him to come home.

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17 minutes ago, Kiwi Dee said:

Do you think we should play Harrison Petty as a key position forward and if so who should replace him down back?

Who else on our list can be experimented in a different position in 2023?

Petty is an interesting one!  I think we almost have to take the risk and get him to train as a forward next year....If it fails he can still go back, i just simply think we need more talent and grunt in the forward half.  I think he is almost Naughton like the way he throws himself in for marks.  Turner/Tomlinson as possible replacements for his back role.

Bowey is one i think just has to be played.  He has skillset we just don't have much/any of....one touch sweeper who makes great decisions by hand or foot and can execute bullet like passes.    Whether we play him as half back/half forward or wing i just think he has to be in the side.  

Chandler is one would expect to get some regular gametime next year.   Could be a damaging half forward but also i think could be a weapon to be used for fast breaks from the middle. Hope to see him utilised and experimented with.   Imo would add more to our clearance work than Kozzie in there anyway.

Our selection policy sucked this year.  We did not give much opportunity to any of the fringe players.   Hopefully we are much bolder and prepared to drop/promote players a lot more regurlarly, whether through injury or lack of form.

By trading Hunt/Bedford/Jackson/& likely Weideman we are going to be forced to give more opportunity to some of the fringe players.   JVR/Turner/Chandler and few others should all get chances to impress.

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Now we are a month on since we finished, I think we lacked outside run and the ability to cover ground once the game opened up. Looking at the year as whole, we had either a commanding position or were leading at half time in almost every game. Once things opened up you could see we started to lose our strength, that being our contested work. We don't have the finishing skills of Geelong or the Pies and were found wanting. and our conversion was poor up forward. I really think we should have gone hard at Amon and Gunston for example to address these needs. We've lost pace in Hunt and Bedford and gained a strength (assuming Grundy arrives) in an area we may not be able to maximise fully. 

In the end I also felt we limped into the final with reports of 11 players playing injured in the last Brisbane game. We are still top 4 material but when fully fit, I still feel we lack the ability to run out games. Lets hope the youngsters learning their craft at Casey can improve this for us next year. 

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1 hour ago, AmsterdamDeesFan said:

I want wildly early predictions for 2023:

Starting line up rd1, most goals, best and fairest, most improved, final ladder position.

I think we’ll leave that until our Season 2023 Preview in February but by all means happy to read some early thoughts from our listeners. 

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Similar to Royal Demon's question on how we plan to use Gawn and Grundy. Do you feel it could be Grundy doing most of the ruck work with Gawn up forward and then occasionally swap into the ruck or could we some something like Grundy rucking from back 50 to middle and Max rucking in the forward 50 which would allow Grundy to stay a kick behind? Or could it be something else altogether?

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Great Podcast guys 

Do you think we need more experienced depth. Obviously we don’t want list cloggers and need to turn over the list.

But we have lost Jackson, Hunt , Bedford and Weideman and delisted Rosman, Mitch Brown and Daw with only Grundy coming back as an established player 

Surely the rest of the list spots can’t be filled by young draftees and rookies ? Your thoughts ? 

Thanks, 

Jack

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Love your work guys ……… huge thanks!
The range of questions / issues suggested in the op is spot-on for mine.  

 

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How do we combat the high pressure gamestyle?

We often looked like deer in the headlights when challenged by high pressure teams this year. Which is odd because we have so much talent on our list that we should be able to walk through it quite easily. Is our conservative gamestyle of 2021/22 over and outdated?

Could we transition to a more fast paced offensive gameplan to keep up with the likes of the new teams that are rising up the ranks, similar to our 2018 style?

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