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7 hours ago, forever demons said:

WCW ?

HEY! Why am I your instant go-to when somebody mentions ‘deranged’ supporter???

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Very harsh to be having a pop at the strength and conditioning team because the team looks sore this year. Didn’t hear too many complaints during finals last year  when the team dominated and swatted every opponent. 

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3 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Who are you saying said that then? I will assume you're referencing @rpfc's "reckless" comment, but that comment didn't necessarily mean it was in the context of player welfare, you're assuming that. It could have meant in terms of the impact on our performance and results, it could have meant in terms of it impacting the ability to get back to 100%, it could have even been in relation to how it impacts the ability to keep our depth players when sore/injured players are consistently picked ahead of them.

Players getting back to 100%? Are you crazy? Even the fit players are only at 75% optimal levels now. Haven't you been reading the loading thread?

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Just now, mo64 said:

Players getting back to 100%? Are you crazy? Even the fit players are only at 75% optimal levels now. Haven't you been reading the loading thread?

My apologies, I forgot that we do an epic preseason over the next 7 weeks to get three quarters of our fitness!

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, BDA said:

Very harsh to be having a pop at the strength and conditioning team because the team looks sore this year. Didn’t hear too many complaints during finals last year  when the team dominated and swatted every opponent. 

We also have a whopping 3 players on our injury list 

One of which is expected to make a quick return from a very bad injury 

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4 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

Jeez it’s tiring going through all the arguments for the meat 

I feel like you’ve got about 3 posts in any thread before it’s the same people arguing with each other about the same things.

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Posted
9 hours ago, binman said:

Yep fair enough.

I suspect once the season is done we will hear that quite few plyer have been carrying things this year.

Maxy has never looked right all season to my eye, nor May since his out with concussion.

You can add Salo, Rivers, Jordon and Lever as well i reckon.  

I would suggest our inside 50 conversion and goal kicking accuracy is more injured than the players

Posted
13 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

HEY! Why am I your instant go-to when somebody mentions ‘deranged’ supporter???

Well ,umm.You do have form

Posted
14 hours ago, Jumping Jack Clennett said:

At the start of the session the players gathered in a circle in the centre , and clapped and cheered someone.They often do this when a debut is announced.

Perhaps it was Laurie. It wasn't Van R.

If that’s what it was it was very tame. 

whenever you see one of those selection announcement videos from Training on social media all the players are jumping on top of the player, ruffling his hair and whooping it up. That did not appear to happen here so I doubt that anyone is debuting. 

I could of course be wrong. 

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36 minutes ago, Demonland said:

If that’s what it was it was very tame. 

whenever you see one of those selection announcement videos from Training on social media all the players are jumping on top of the player, ruffling his hair and whooping it up. That did not appear to happen here so I doubt that anyone is debuting. 

I could of course be wrong. 

More likely someone in the team has some news from their personal life like and engagement, baby news or similar


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16 hours ago, rpfc said:

@binman; Salem kicked the ball 35m in the 2nd minute of round one with a strapped knee and was out of the game for 15 minutes, then put back on, then subbed out for 11 games.

I am not worried about his ‘welfare,’ I am worried about my welfare!

You don’t eff around with your star players and I felt that that decision to play a clearly hampered player went over the line from resilience to ‘whatever-word-defines-a-star-being-out-for-three-months.’

That’s the wager they are making with this ‘resilience training/playing’ and I think it is fine with bodies that are fresher than we were after a long season playing a strenuous and demanding style.

Just seen a number of our better players playing clearly hampered this year…

 

Your ‘reckless’ argument in this thread is constructed on assumptions and hindsight. Injury management is galaxies from being an exact science. It may have been perfectly sensible for them to put Salem back on, if they were thinking he’d just jarred the knee, and could run it off in game time. In this way, it’s a form of injury assessment. This happens. All players carry niggles throughout the season. If I had $5 for every time I’ve advised a sportsperson - “now let’s just suck it and see” - you know the story. Rarely are players niggle free, particularly as the season runs on. Ergo, the decision to rest-play is a risk-reward scenario. You seem to be suggesting they should always honour the risk. That’s never going to happen. There are obvious advantages to the team and player to playing through imperfection. Also, you (and others) seem very confident in assessing who is injured, and it’s so often just based on form - Maxy, Salem, Jordon, it goes on. The number of times I read ‘he’s obviously carrying something, they shouldn’t have played him’ is immeasurable, and mostly a rationalisation to explain a variety of factors influencing form. This belief that the MFC are somehow defying convention by having players play through soreness and mild injury is also nonsense. All clubs do it. There wouldn’t be many players running around if they didn’t. It’s just a risk-reward policy exercised over a very imperfect, multi-factorial game and season. 

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53 minutes ago, —coach— said:

More likely someone in the team has some news from their personal life like and engagement, baby news or similar

I think the more likely explanation is a player telling a joke  or something like that to kick off the session. I know that Richmond do, or used to, do this before a game as a tension reliever.

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Posted
1 hour ago, kev martin said:

Sorry, didn't notice.

You should have, he would have been on Punt Road before he kicked.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Webber said:

Your ‘reckless’ argument in this thread is constructed on assumptions and hindsight. Injury management is galaxies from being an exact science. It may have been perfectly sensible for them to put Salem back on, if they were thinking he’d just jarred the knee, and could run it off in game time. In this way, it’s a form of injury assessment. This happens. All players carry niggles throughout the season. If I had $5 for every time I’ve advised a sportsperson - “now let’s just suck it and see” - you know the story. Rarely are players niggle free, particularly as the season runs on. Ergo, the decision to rest-play is a risk-reward scenario. You seem to be suggesting they should always honour the risk. That’s never going to happen. There are obvious advantages to the team and player to playing through imperfection. Also, you (and others) seem very confident in assessing who is injured, and it’s so often just based on form - Maxy, Salem, Jordon, it goes on. The number of times I read ‘he’s obviously carrying something, they shouldn’t have played him’ is immeasurable, and mostly a rationalisation to explain a variety of factors influencing form. This belief that the MFC are somehow defying convention by having players play through soreness and mild injury is also nonsense. All clubs do it. There wouldn’t be many players running around if they didn’t. It’s just a risk-reward policy exercised over a very imperfect, multi-factorial game and season. 

Webber, we appreciate your input as a medico. But I think the point that rpfc is making is that surely you would be more cautious going into round 1 with a player carrying an injury? You've had weeks to assess the injury, compared with maybe a few days once the season has commenced. The injury was a chipped cartilage. Does that type of injury heal with rest, or is surgery the only solution?

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4 hours ago, forever demons said:

Well ,umm.You do have form

Oh, I don’t deny that. My rap sheet’s a mile long. But surely I’m not the only deranged supporter. There’s probs heaps on here just as deranged. Right? Somebody? ANYBODY???

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10 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Oh, I don’t deny that. My rap sheet’s a mile long. But surely I’m not the only deranged supporter. There’s probs heaps on here just as deranged. Right? Somebody? ANYBODY???

Deranged is not a word I’d use for you WCW. 
I think “special” is way more appropriate.

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Just now, Neil Crompton said:

Deranged is not a word I’d use for you WCW. 
I think “special” is way more appropriate.

“Special” can mean many things. I’m gonna assume in this instance it’s a good kind of special. 💕

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