CHANGES: Rd 21 vs Collingwood

[layzie 28,746]

2 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Ben Brown in at least one photo from today's training gallery. Doesn't really tell us anything.

"This is an arm, drawn by nobody. It is worth nothing.."

[rpfc 27,473]

Changes may be minimal. Brown possibly the only in.

I am really interested with how we take that brutal mindset we showed last week to a team that will take us on and cut through us a few times. They play the only way to beat us at our best but the flip side is that if you can’t execute well enough, often enough we will get so many entries into our forward line. 

I just don’t think it will stand up for long enough to beat us.

[deejammin' 2,065]

Heart says:

Out: Weid, Melk, Rivers

In: JVR, Harmes, Bowey

Head says:

Out: Weid, Hunt, 

In: Brown, Harmes 

[adonski 9,149]

1 minute ago, deejammin' said:

Heart says:

Out: Weid, Melk, Rivers

In: JVR, Harmes, Bowey

Head says:

Out: Weid, Hunt, 

In: Brown, Harmes 

[deejammin' 2,065]

12 hours ago, CYB said:

The Pies fans are insufferable, the talk im hearing on radio is how easily they will just waltz over us. 

Just makes you want to go... 

It’s pretty funny. They are our bogey side and I’m always concerned when we play them but the confidence is strange. In the last six weeks Pies have beaten GWS narrowly (11), beaten GC when they should’ve lost (5 points), just beat North when they were losing the majority of the game (7 points), just beat Adelaide (5 points), beat Essendon after the siren (4points) and narrowly beat Port when they easily could’ve lost (6 points). That’s six teams outside they 8 they struggled to beat. Meanwhile we beat two top 4 contenders by 7+ goals each (Brisbane and Freo), Beat Adelaide and Port pretty comfortably, lost to Geelong in Geelong after leading by four goals, lost to Bulldogs narrowly after leading the whole game. On form I’d take ours over theirs, we’ve been in tough games against real contenders or pushing away lower teams, they are scraping to beat the worst teams in it. It saddens me to say it, the pies are a good team, but I’m hoping they’re in for a shock as their form hasn’t been up to it the last 6 and they’ve got away with a lot of ordinary performances against very poor opposition.

[1964_2 2,357]

11 minutes ago, deejammin' said:

Heart says:

Out: Weid, Melk, Rivers

In: JVR, Harmes, Bowey

Head says:

Out: Weid, Hunt, 

In: Brown, Harmes 

Is their any other options? as the “heart” appears broken, and the “head” concussed

Edited August 2, 2022 by 1964_2

[deejammin' 2,065]

2 minutes ago, 1964_2 said:

Is their any other options? as the “heart” appears broken, and the “head” concussed

Ouch! 
I’d love to take the risk with JVR watching him all year in the VFL he looks like he could explode at AFL level. But it’s a risk. Ben Brown has the runs on the board and if fit was in better form in the Geelong and Port games than Weid has shown. 
I liked Angus in the guts and think Harmes could play the Melksham role even better than he has the last two weeks but admittedly Melksham has been good, logically he stays in, Hunt, (who wasn’t bad, his speed adds another dimension, but did lose a few contests including stupidly tackling Walters in a marking contest) makes way for Angus back to HB and Harmes back to his usual role.

Bowey has been outstanding in the VFL and I’m a fan while Rivers had some good moments but also a few turnovers and shanked kicks. It won’t happen but Rivers for Bowey would warm my heart. 
 

I think the logical changes will be the changes, the heart ones are risky and may not pay off but I’d kinda love to see it.

[Sydee 3,617]

19 minutes ago, deejammin' said:

Heart says:

Out: Weid, Melk, Rivers

In: JVR, Harmes, Bowey

Head says:

Out: Weid, Hunt, 

In: Brown, Harmes 

Rivers going nowhere after last week 

[Demon4Life 599]

The last time we played them our defence buckled, our structure unravelled and the rolled us. Unless we get very unlucky with injuries it won't happen twice

[1964_2 2,357]

2 minutes ago, deejammin' said:

Ouch! 
I’d love to take the risk with JVR watching him all year in the VFL he looks like he could explode at AFL level. But it’s a risk. Ben Brown has the runs on the board and if fit was in better form in the Geelong and Port games than Weid has shown. 
I liked Angus in the guts and think Harmes could play the Melksham role even better than he has the last two weeks but admittedly Melksham has been good, logically he stays in, Hunt, (who wasn’t bad, his speed adds another dimension, but did lose a few contests including stupidly tackling Walters in a marking contest) makes way for Angus back to HB and Harmes back to his usual role.

Bowey has been outstanding in the VFL and I’m a fan while Rivers had some good moments but also a few turnovers and shanked kicks. It won’t happen but Rivers for Bowey would warm my heart. 
 

I think the logical changes will be the changes, the heart ones are risky and may not pay off but I’d kinda love to see it.

Sorry overly harsh with a poor attempt at humour. 

Brown for Weid = ✅ 

agree would love to see JVR if they think he is ready. 

Harmes, Bowey maybe unlucky because Melk, Rivers, Hunt all be tough to drop. 
 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,409]

I wonder if B Brown comes back in for someone other than Weideman? We won a Premiership with two KPFs plus two ruckmen and it may be that the Match Committee wants to get back to that structure again. For that to happen, though, a smaller forward needs to miss out and that might mean Melksham is omitted after having probably played his best game in a couple of seasons. 

[layzie 28,746]

10 hours ago, Sydee said:

Rivers going nowhere after last week 

His best game for the year hands down. 

[Wodjathefirst 2,284]

23 hours ago, layzie said:

I really really hope the Ginnivan incident with Gawn coming off the ground last time is one of those 'You don't forget' moments for the guys.

I like the kid and think he can play but I think the rest of Australia would like to see him get some just desserts on national television. 

Totally agree with the first paragraph, I am sure they will remember.  I liked the way Gawney diverted his answer in a recent press conference about how he felt about Ginnivan’s mental health concerns to discuss the over the top attention that Jacko received in Perth last week.  He certainly remembers.

Therefore, In your second paragraph I’d change ‘like’ to ‘despise’ and immediately after ‘play’ insert ‘for free kicks’ .  Totally agree again with your ‘just deserts’ comment that follows.

All the attention and negativity that he has received has been brought on by his antics and actions. I know he is just a kid but the Pies hierarchy didn’t help the situation- they should have counselled him to pull his head in a bit.  Such is life.

[Vipercrunch 2,808]

25 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I wonder if B Brown comes back in for someone other than Weideman? We won a Premiership with two KPFs plus two ruckmen and it may be that the Match Committee wants to get back to that structure again. For that to happen, though, a smaller forward needs to miss out and that might mean Melksham is omitted after having probably played his best game in a couple of seasons. 

It's a very interesting situation and without 2 fit and in-form big forwards, we may not find out what the coaches preferred forward balancee is.  I don't mind the current balance, but it certainly worked well with two talls last year.

[Jaded No More 57,912]

For the love of god, do NOT lose to these clowns.

I want to bury them and make them realise what a truly mediocre side they actually are and how lucky they have been to get an easy draw and get away with so many close wins.

I also want to see Howe and Ginnivin cry. Ugly cry.

[layzie 28,746]

35 minutes ago, Wodjathefirst said:

Totally agree with the first paragraph, I am sure they will remember.  I liked the way Gawney diverted his answer in a recent press conference about how he felt about Ginnivan’s mental health concerns to discuss the over the top attention that Jacko received in Perth last week.  He certainly remembers.

Therefore, In your second paragraph I’d change ‘like’ to ‘despise’ and immediately after ‘play’ insert ‘for free kicks’ .  Totally agree again with your ‘just deserts’ comment that follows.

All the attention and negativity that he has received has been brought on by his antics and actions. I know he is just a kid but the Pies hierarchy didn’t help the situation- they should have counselled him to pull his head in a bit.  Such is life.

All fair enough points. I mean I don't mind him as a player but certainly not going to tell others what to think of him! 😀

The negativity has absolutely been brought on by himself, no getting around that. 

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 3,927]

Adams out is handy although Mihocek will come

back in and kick 4 goals

[Deenooos_ 647]

Odds for Friday keep drifting for the pies on PointsBet:

Dees $1.37 vs Pies $3.10

Should have no problem finishing the game this time round, although we played crap last time we still lead in the last.

I think the pies will be in for a reality check. Bring that ruthlessness and stingy defence and they shouldn't worry us.

Edited August 3, 2022 by Deenooos_

[640MD 2,795]

6 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Adams out is handy although Mihocek will come

back in and kick 4 goals

This Brody fellow always chooses us to play well against,   a bit like Mason Cox, always seems to play well against us.

I hope the pies have a truck load of young players training the house down and they go young.

Go Dees

[DemonLad5 1,640]

Is the main session today? 

[layzie 28,746]

We must shut that Mason character out, no clear runs at the footy, no nothing. 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,409]

12 minutes ago, 640MD said:

This Brody fellow always chooses us to play well against,   a bit like Mason Cox, always seems to play well against us.

I hope the pies have a truck load of young players training the house down and they go young.

Go Dees

It's time for Werridee to put together his team of average footballers who seem to play exceptional games against us. Or Demonstone could make it one of his brainteasers.

[Wodjathefirst 2,284]

52 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

For the love of god, do NOT lose to these clowns.

I want to bury them and make them realise what a truly mediocre side they actually are and how lucky they have been to get an easy draw and get away with so many close wins.

I also want to see Howe and Ginnivin cry. Ugly cry.

For the love of Binman?

[Gawndy the Great 7,388]

29 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Adams out is handy although Mihocek will come

back in and kick 4 goals

Howe probably won’t make it so at least no MOTY nominations on top of Maxy’s head. 

[layzie 28,746]

3 minutes ago, CYB said:

Howe probably won’t make it so at least no MOTY nominations on top of Maxy’s head. 

Could certainly do without that.