On 04/09/2022 at 01:23, old dee said:

I actually think the Weid could do that job.

Weid could do a lot of jobs - accountant, architect, fireman

But footy player doesn't appear one of them

  On 03/09/2022 at 11:33, Colm said:

You mean Pickett ?

Pickett is hit and miss. Needs more consistency 

It would be nice if the small forwards we had got front and square occasionally. 

  On 03/09/2022 at 11:33, Colm said:

You mean Pickett ?

I was actually referring to all four 'smalls' for us last Friday Night - ANB: Spargo; Pickett and Melksham were less damaging collectively than Papley (in my humble opinion). I hope they all bounce back for the next three wins and lift a Premiership cup at the G

Melbourne are "raging favourites" according to Jon Ralph. 

 

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Edited September 5, 20222 yr by Lord Nev
DD beat me to it

Wow, Ralphy echoing every other reporter who are also playing the process of elimination.

Amazzzzzing reporting.

Grundy will be a great pick up. Stright swap Grundy for the Weid.

Jackson to stay, Grundy to come over. We will be the kings of the long bomb to the forward pocket for the next decade! 

  On 05/09/2022 at 11:30, WERRIDEE said:

Grundy will be a great pick up. Stright swap Grundy for the Weid.

In all seriousness what would it take to get Grundy over the line?

  On 05/09/2022 at 12:21, WERRIDEE said:

In all seriousness what would it take to get Grundy over the line?

Depends how desperate Collingwood are to dump salary. They have a few trade targets and have increased their De Goey offer, so that should help.

I'd rather not 

  On 03/09/2022 at 11:25, #11-TonyAnderson said:

We need a decent forward crumber who does more than pressure acts and actually kicks goals (Elliot; Papley; Stengle etc)

Theres a lot of recency bias in your post Tony. Its unbelievably hard for a small fwd to kick 40 goals in a season.

Elliot has never kicked 40 goals in a season His highest has been 35 (in 9 seasons)

Papley has kicked 40 goals in a season once (in 7 seasons)

Stengle has kicked 46 g this season. His highest previously has been 8 in a season (in 4 seasons)

Cyril kicked 40 goals in a season twice (in 11 seasons) and is considered one of the greatest ever

If Kozzie picket kicks 1 more goal this year he will have kicked 40 goals in a season twice.

Kozzie is a ripper. He is 21 yo.

  On 04/09/2022 at 05:56, Ugottobekidding said:

Pickett is hit and miss. Needs more consistency 

Pickett is just about the only Demon forward providing consistent effort to apply forward pressure. He is good at this job but has to apply it across a whole, large forward area in every game; he could be a sensational forward (and without doubt he could be if he had a willing teammate to assist in every one of these forward pressure acts, enabling his unique goal-scoring feats to shine as his experience and maturity as a player increases. Team football - team football - team football. At present, we are playing a forward line that is largely individual football.

 

  On 05/09/2022 at 11:46, The heart beats true said:

Jackson to stay, Grundy to come over. We will be the kings of the long bomb to the forward pocket for the next decade! 

Can picture it already. Gawn/Grundy/BBB all holding hands in the left hand fwd pocket before contesting the mark.
 

  On 05/09/2022 at 13:32, jnrmac said:

Kozzie is a ripper. He is 21 yo

We have to acknowledge this aptitude. We expect one player (Kozzie) to do it all with a dummy in his mouth, as he receives little support from the static team around him. Fair suck of the sav ... and the same goes for Spargo, who could be lethal, as well. Game plans need attention and team selection has been unresponsive-to-ordinary. There is limited innovation and a highly obvious lack of footy smarts across the forward line. 

  On 05/09/2022 at 13:32, jnrmac said:

Theres a lot of recency bias in your post Tony. Its unbelievably hard for a small fwd to kick 40 goals in a season.

Elliot has never kicked 40 goals in a season His highest has been 35 (in 9 seasons)

Papley has kicked 40 goals in a season once (in 7 seasons)

Stengle has kicked 46 g this season. His highest previously has been 8 in a season (in 4 seasons)

Cyril kicked 40 goals in a season twice (in 11 seasons) and is considered one of the greatest ever

If Kozzie picket kicks 1 more goal this year he will have kicked 40 goals in a season twice.

Kozzie is a ripper. He is 21 yo.

Wow, that is pretty wild. 

  On 05/09/2022 at 12:21, WERRIDEE said:

In all seriousness what would it take to get Grundy over the line?

Treloar trade was:

Coll trade:  Treloar, 26, 33 and 42 and received:  14 and a future 2nd

so maybe 35(2nd rd) and a future first pick for Grundy 42, 47,48( all second rounders)

This is just based of current picks,  Melb have always been proactive in moving around future picks so they might try something there to move up the draft.

Coll are reportedly bringing in McStay (reported 650k a year) and Bobby Hill.  as well as interest in Mitchell and now want to keep De Goey and reports say they are offering him the contract they withdrew after his Bali incident.

This is good for us as it means they need Grundy's salary gone (whilst still paying 300k a year)

I'm still not sold on the Grundy/Gawn combo,  but goody and the coaching staff obviously see a strategy there for us to be this interested so i'll back them in.

From The Age:  "The club is actively trying to move him to another club, but Grundy is desperate to stay. He had a positive meeting with Melbourne, which was attended by Simon Goodwin and Max Gawn, but he still believes his future is at Collingwood".

I still don't understand this move or how he slots in. Hes a no.1 ruck, as is Max. And they both aren't forwards. 

I get the vibe the club wants to play Max as a forward, as we've seen more recently, but it won't work IMO.

Edited September 6, 20222 yr by SFebes

  On 05/09/2022 at 12:41, Spaghetti said:

Depends how desperate Collingwood are to dump salary. They have a few trade targets and have increased their De Goey offer, so that should help.

The fact Grundy doesn't want to go anywhere else means they accept mfc's offer otherwise they can hang onto him and miss out on a bunch of players they have lined up to come in ... they are stuck again

  On 05/09/2022 at 18:01, Travy14 said:

Treloar trade was:

Coll trade:  Treloar, 26, 33 and 42 and received:  14 and a future 2nd

so maybe 35(2nd rd) and a future first pick for Grundy 42, 47,48( all second rounders)

This is just based of current picks,  Melb have always been proactive in moving around future picks so they might try something there to move up the draft.

Coll are reportedly bringing in McStay (reported 650k a year) and Bobby Hill.  as well as interest in Mitchell and now want to keep De Goey and reports say they are offering him the contract they withdrew after his Bali incident.

This is good for us as it means they need Grundy's salary gone (whilst still paying 300k a year)

I'm still not sold on the Grundy/Gawn combo,  but goody and the coaching staff obviously see a strategy there for us to be this interested so i'll back them in.

I still can't get my head around this. If Collingwood are prepared to pay around $300k a year of Grundy's wage and pay McStay $650k they are basically swapping those 2 players for very little salary cap saving and similar draft pick swaps. 

Grundy would eat McStay for breakfast as a footballer.

The only reason I can see, is Collingwood believe Grundy's injuries are chronic and/or they are being delusional about the draft pick they will get for him. 

If Jackson goes, and Grundy is fit, I'd love to have the best 2 AFL ruckman at our club.

Edited September 6, 20222 yr by Crystal Dees
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  On 05/09/2022 at 18:01, Travy14 said:

Treloar trade was:

Coll trade:  Treloar, 26, 33 and 42 and received:  14 and a future 2nd

so maybe 35(2nd rd) and a future first pick for Grundy 42, 47,48( all second rounders)

This is just based of current picks,  Melb have always been proactive in moving around future picks so they might try something there to move up the draft.

Coll are reportedly bringing in McStay (reported 650k a year) and Bobby Hill.  as well as interest in Mitchell and now want to keep De Goey and reports say they are offering him the contract they withdrew after his Bali incident.

This is good for us as it means they need Grundy's salary gone (whilst still paying 300k a year)

I'm still not sold on the Grundy/Gawn combo,  but goody and the coaching staff obviously see a strategy there for us to be this interested so i'll back them in.

$650 is insane money for McStay. has never even kicked 30 goals in a season. Unless they want to play him back, but still...

  On 06/09/2022 at 02:58, Demons1858 said:

The fact Grundy doesn't want to go anywhere else means they accept mfc's offer otherwise they can hang onto him and miss out on a bunch of players they have lined up to come in ... they are stuck again

We have never really gotten the best out of trades with Collingwood. I reckon only Henry Coles and Peter Moore really excelled at Dees, maybe Flash Gordon. We have had a lot of failures eg Fabulous Phil Carmen and recent trades all busts - Hertier Lamumba, Dawes and Ben Kennedy. 

  On 06/09/2022 at 02:13, Lucifers Hero said:

From The Age:  "The club is actively trying to move him to another club, but Grundy is desperate to stay. He had a positive meeting with Melbourne, which was attended by Simon Goodwin and Max Gawn, but he still believes his future is at Collingwood".

Stay firm Brodie!