Trade and Free Agency rumours

[Lord Nev 13,512]

 

[wheaters31 687]

14 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

 

Time to go and get Deven Robertson.

We loved him in his draft year. He is apparently unhappy with lack of games at Brisbane and with Dunkley and Ashcroft coming in, that means he potentially has even less game-time now.

Brisbane will need picks to satisfy the Dogs and to get Ashcroft as F/S.

I hope we ask the question. He would be an upgrade on Harmes, Jordon, Sparrow or ANB at the least.

Edited September 19, 2022 by wheaters31

[SPC 3,596]

12 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

 

Not sure how much more talent they can cram in. Draft will see them brimming. 
Beside MCSTAY is there any spillage?

[Lord Nev 13,512]

12 minutes ago, SPC said:

Not sure how much more talent they can cram in. Draft will see them brimming. 
Beside MCSTAY is there any spillage?

 

[poita 3,941]

Dunkley is worth pick 15 plus additional picks / players, which takes out more than half of the Ashcroft points. Plus Brisbane need points for Fletcher. They will have to lose multiple best 22 players to make all this happen.

 

[spirit of norm smith 16,677]

Some declarations and rumours on moves:  (updated) 

Crows +Rankine

Dogs +Jones(Fa). +Lobb -Dunkley

Kangas +Tucker +Logue

Freo +Jackson -Tucker -Lobb -Logue -Acres

Blues +Acres

Suns +Long -Rankine -Fiorini

Saints -Long

Dees -Jackson +”Grundy”

Port -Amon +Rioli 

Eagles -Rioli 

Hawks +Amon

Cats. + Bruhn +O.Henry

Pies —Grundy -O.Henry +Mcstay +Hill +Fiorini

Lions -McStay +Dunkley

Tigers. +Hopper +Taranto

Giants  -Hopper -Taranto -Bruhn -Hill

Swans 

[Nascent 9,345]

42 minutes ago, wheaters31 said:

Time to go and get Deven Robertson.

We loved him in his draft year. He is apparently unhappy with lack of games at Brisbane and with Dunkley and Ashcroft coming in, that means he potentially has even less game-time now.

Brisbane will need picks to satisfy the Dogs and to get Ashcroft as F/S.

I hope we ask the question. He would be an upgrade on Harmes, Jordon, Sparrow or ANB at the least.

This. We track players we are keen on and given we have looked to add midfield depth recently it wouldn't surprise to see us have a look here.

Can't see how Brisbane gets both father/son prospects and dunkley without trading out a couple players on top of losing McStay and possibly Gardiner. Bulldogs won't be happy with a late first round pick for Dunkley.

Edited September 19, 2022 by Nascent

[Bates Mate 4,520]

11 minutes ago, Nascent said:

This. We track players we are keen on and given we have looked to add midfield depth recently it wouldn't surprise to see us have a look here.

Can't see how Brisbane gets both father/son prospects and dunkley without trading out a couple players on top of losing McStay and possibly Gardiner. Bulldogs won't be happy with a late first round pick for Dunkley.

Late first round is about right for Dunkley he is good solid midfielder not a matchwinner

[adonski 13,235]

46 minutes ago, wheaters31 said:

Time to go and get Deven Robertson.

We loved him in his draft year. He is apparently unhappy with lack of games at Brisbane and with Dunkley and Ashcroft coming in, that means he potentially has even less game-time now.

Brisbane will need picks to satisfy the Dogs and to get Ashcroft as F/S.

I hope we ask the question. He would be an upgrade on Harmes, Jordon, Sparrow or ANB at the least.

Not sure he'd be an upgrade on Harmes but you're probably right about the others

The problem is he provides absolutely no point of different to our other mids 

[whatwhat say what 23,810]

deven robertson looks like a variation on the sparrow theme - a second or third rotation mid type

i fail to see a huge attraction when we already have sparrow and jordon in that same spot

[layzie 34,528]

Dunkley is exacly what Brisbane need right now. Expect them to give up some picks/players for all these moves. 

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

We simply need to add to our list if we want a top four spot next year so I'm intrigued to see what we do this trade period. 

Significant growth will no longer come from our core who are entering their prime and Max, May, T Mac, BB will all be on the decline. 

We have a window of crazy opportunity whilst our more senior players are still in strong form. 

And I think it's time to make some tough calls on roles to Harmes, Hunt, Sparrow, Jordan, and ANB. I'd like some more dynamic players added to those positions and players who display attributes that compliment those of our core. Foot skills, composure, speed. 

Needs to happen, Sydney, Collingwood, Brisbane and Carlton are not going away. And then there's a whole host of sides who will see big growth from their younger brigade. 

We need to be aggressive. 

Edited September 19, 2022 by JimmyGadson

[Turner 1,516]

46 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Some declarations and rumours on moves:  (updated) 

Crows +Rankine

Dogs +Jones(Fa). +Lobb -Dunkley

Kangas +Tucker +Logue

Freo +Jackson -Tucker -Lobb -Logue -Acres

Blues +Acres

Suns +Long -Rankine -Fiorini

Saints -Long

Dees -Jackson +”Grundy”

Port -Amon +Rioli 

Eagles -Rioli 

Hawks +Amon

Cats. + Bruhn +O.Henry

Pies —Grundy -O.Henry +Mcstay +Hill +Fiorini

Lions -McStay +Dunkley

Tigers. +Hopper +Taranto

Giants  -Hopper -Taranto -Bruhn -Hill

Swans 

+ frmpton to the pies too

24 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

deven robertson looks like a variation on the sparrow theme - a second or third rotation mid type

i fail to see a huge attraction when we already have sparrow and jordon in that same spot

should take A 3-4 year deal back home at WCE and lead their next gen midfield 

[Demon3 2,541]

17 hours ago, TRIGON said:

Hypothetical trade: 3 suitors for Bedford, Essendon the keenest (assumption based only on media tittle tattle)  and so we trade him in exchange for their 3 round pick and a swap of 2nd round picks - then on trading their current 2nd round pick  (22/23) for Grundy. Thoughts? Could that get it done? Would it be a fair trade for all parties?

Yep, i might be in the minority, i just dont think Bedford is a senior AFL footballer. I would be more than happy to trade him if it allowed some other trades to happen. Bedford wont come back to haunt us, i believe anyway. Chandler is a more well rounded player.

[DubDee 26,667]

18 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

We simply need to add to our list if we want a top four spot next year so I'm intrigued to see what we do this trade period. 

Significant growth will no longer come from our core who are entering their prime and Max, May, T Mac, BB will all be on the decline. 

We have a window of crazy opportunity whilst our more senior players are still in strong form. 

And I think it's time to make some tough calls on roles to Harmes, Hunt, Sparrow, Jordan, and ANB. I'd like some more dynamic players added to those positions and players who display attributes that compliment those of our core. Foot skills, composure, speed. 

Needs to happen, Sydney, Collingwood, Brisbane and Carlton are not going away. And then there's a whole host of sides who will see big growth from their younger brigade. 

We need to be aggressive. 

Agree. But without many draft picks (aside from LJ picks) we may not be able to do too much.  ANB and T Mac were shopped around with no takers previously.  I reckon Hunt and Sparrow would attract interest though

[Lord Nev 13,512]

2 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Agree. But without many draft picks (aside from LJ picks) we may not be able to do too much.  ANB and T Mac were shopped around with no takers previously.  I reckon Hunt and Sparrow would attract interest though

Hunt is a free agent and can't imagine we'll get much compo for him should he leave.

Sparrow contracted and seems very much in Goody's plans.

[DeeSpencer 26,667]

2 hours ago, wheaters31 said:

Time to go and get Deven Robertson.

We loved him in his draft year. He is apparently unhappy with lack of games at Brisbane and with Dunkley and Ashcroft coming in, that means he potentially has even less game-time now.

Brisbane will need picks to satisfy the Dogs and to get Ashcroft as F/S.

I hope we ask the question. He would be an upgrade on Harmes, Jordon, Sparrow or ANB at the least.

Have you seen him play? He’s not very good. Tried to tag Oliver and got demolished. Not an outside runner so he doesn’t give us what Harmes and JJ do. Can’t pressure up forward line ANB.

Skills and ball winning for a mid are both ordinary. He’s still young with room to go but at the moment he’s pretty much a lesser version of Sparrow.

We loved Lewis Taylor in his draft year. That’s about as relevant as loving Dev is. 

[CityDee 738]

Harmes should not be traded .

He is one of our few mid size athletic players who can match the sydney types like Heney Mills etc -we need more of these types . 

And he is a damn good footballer -

no way . 

[Demon Disciple 12,529]

1 hour ago, Demon3 said:

Bedford wont come back to haunt us, i believe anyway. Chandler is a more well rounded player.

Agree D3, I believe Chandler has way more upside than Bedford. He is the must keep.

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

15 minutes ago, CityDee said:

Harmes should not be traded .

He is one of our few mid size athletic players who can match the sydney types like Heney Mills etc -we need more of these types . 

And he is a damn good footballer -

no way . 

Harmes' inability to be consistent in his play from week to week makes him incredibly frustrating to watch. 

We just need more reliable role players who do the basics to a high level consistently. 

I'd just much rather a less contested player who is clean and uses the ball well than a player who is a bit of an all rounder but doesn't do anything especially well consistently. 

[DeeSpencer 26,667]

1 hour ago, JimmyGadson said:

And I think it's time to make some tough calls on roles to Harmes, Hunt, Sparrow, Jordan, and ANB. I'd like some more dynamic players added to those positions and players who display attributes that compliment those of our core. Foot skills, composure, speed. 

These guys already complement our star players by bringing pressure, speed and work rate. I’d love for them to be more skilled too but super skilled role players are very hard to find. Whilst our game plan is built around Clarry, Tracc and Viney we aren’t going to line up with super skilled fringe mids and half forwards anyway, we can’t lose our 1 wood which is crash and bash.

Jason Taylor has an awful record outside the top 2 rounds of the draft and Tim Lamb’s favours conservative list management holding on to fringe players for way too long. It’s hard to see how shipping out our role players for at best late 2nds or 3rd rounds Ie. not much coming back in helps. 

If we had replacements at Casey or if we were linked to someone like Amon, perhaps Bobby Hill, Acres etc to swap in for the right guy out I’d be for that.

I guess there’s still time for more players to declare their intentions but so far it’s all very quiet

[Lucifers Hero 40,709]

Not sure where to put this and its not really worth of a new thread

revealed-north-s-draft-assistance-package

Fairly minimal really.  An extra 2nd and extra 3rd round, 2023 pick that must be used to trade this year for player(s).  What that does is fill out their draft picks this year which are:  1, 55, 66, 73.  And 2 extra rookie spots.

It is pleasing the AFL didn't give them a bunch of first round/end of first round picks since most of their recent pain was pretty much self inflicted by decimating their own list and FD staff.

[Axis of Bob 11,944]

8 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Jason Taylor has an awful record outside the top 2 rounds of the draft

Saying that Taylor has an awful record outside the top 2 rounds is like saying that Tony Lockett has an awful record outside of taking marks and kicking goals. 

[Demons11 7,135]

3 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

Saying that Taylor has an awful record outside the top 2 rounds is like saying that Tony Lockett has an awful record outside of taking marks and kicking goals. 

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