2023 AFL National Draft prospects: The next batch

[dazzledavey36 50,440]

7 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

A grade is a bit of a reach for 22 players

it’s a term thrown around too often to describe players. There’s no harm building a list with hard working competitive B graders who play 200+ games and having four to half a dozen A graders to ice the cake.

Hardeman is a great worker, runner and foot skills are pretty good but can’t ever see him being A grade

Well said 👏

[Pennant St Dee 12,180]

WAFL Colts Grand Final Sunday 12.10pm BD Perth time some good players on show for this year and next

Claremont 

Daniel Curtin - enough been said about him, with seniors knocked out he returns to the colts

Joe Fonti - quick deck and wide ground will suit him, running half back/wing possesses speed, but it’s the lateral movement and acceleration over first 5m which may see him taken with late pick

Zane Zakostelsky - athletic big man watch his leap and size. Fairly late to the game and far but think clubs will look at him as key sevens I’ve project

Sam Van Rooyen- 2 good finals games and finished the season strongly. Good athlete and when he’s on he’s on.  Confidence player who has threatened to grab games by the scruff of the neck of late

2024 eligible 

Austin Van Der Struyf - half back wing, elite kicking skills awareness and decision maker

Cody Angove - small forward with pace works high up the ground and possesses ability to move through traffic with quick feet and lateral movement

Hamish Davis - forward with good acceleration and tank to find space and make repeat leads. Kicking needs work but topped goal kickers in the PSA and IMO could develop into a high half forward link player with his endurance 

Perth

Aidan O’Driscoll - great tank, speed, awareness and decision making. Foot skills are very good and impacts the scoreboard 

Jake Watson- half back flanker who is good mark for his size and reads the play really well. Sets up much of their rebound with intercepts and decision making

Coen Livingston- not sure if he’ll play as he’s under an injury cloud. Big strong forward/ruck but see his strength as forward. Not athletic but good kick for a tall

Elijah Scoble - tall intercept defender who reads play well and also deceptively strong in contest. Probably a 3rd tall option at the next level

Oscar Hine-Baston - hard running defender with clean ground ball skills and penetrating kick. Good athlete and likes to take the game on. Very much and Adam Saad type player

Kalib Dempster-Park - dark horse draft chance. Midfielder who has had really strong season. Hard runner who wins the contest but gut runs to find space and gets involved in transition. Disposal okay but just knows how to find the footy

2024 eligible 

Cooper Moore - small mid/forward . Good decision maker with good foot skills who can also play through the middle and make an impact. Cool head who is cool in traffic and doesn’t panic with ball in hand. Size will be the question mark but has a lot of tools

Edited September 22, 2023 by Pennant St Dee

[Ungarieboy 369]

On 9/20/2023 at 10:15 AM, manny100 said:

Crikey, if Northern clubs get a free hit at Academy picks below 40 they should be paying a 20% points premium for getting the player they want (at least for the top 10). 20% discount on top of getting a potential gun player. - stupid.

 

Love this idea; but would take it a step further: NGA first round products require the associated club to match points  plus 40%. NGA 2nd round plus 20%.  

It still provides opportunity to reward clubs NGA efforts, but not provide a free hit. Other clubs potentially benefit from the deals required to accumulate the necessary points!

And of course, AFL gets more media coverage from the speculation!

Edited September 22, 2023 by Ungarieboy

[spirit of norm smith 13,902]

@Pennant St Dee

Yes that’s why i used the term “potential” A graders in my post.  I wouldn’t subscribe to all but often you find it’s not just the top 10 (though more likely) that go on to be the very best. 
 

I do like Hardeman for his hard running, physical style of play and yes his delivery.  Wouldn’t mind adding him if we had a pick around the 20ish mark.  His footskills are very good and has the Rivers type intensity for a half back.  
 

Obviously lots of AFL manipulation, trade and pick swaps and complex sudoku numbers to go before we know our likely draft picks. 

[Roost it far 6,649]

Take SVR and give him a season at Casey. Jefferson’s likely a bust so let’s get him in.

[spirit of norm smith 13,902]

@Pennant St Dee

yes like to see how SVR goes.  He had a few “nearly” games in the championships. Got his hands to marks but could not quite hold them. Thought he might not get picked in the draft. Needs more gym time obviously but imv could still be a potential rookie for the Dees. Imagine the double Roooeeeyyyy from the crowd !!! 

[drdrake 3,069]

1 hour ago, Pennant St Dee said:

WAFL Colts Grand Final Sunday 12.10pm BD Perth time some good players on show for this year and next

Claremont 

Daniel Curtin - enough been said about him, with seniors knocked out he returns to the colts

Joe Fonti - quick deck and wide ground will suit him, running half back/wing possesses speed, but it’s the lateral movement and acceleration over first 5m which may see him taken with late pick

Zane Zakostelsky - athletic big man watch his leap and size. Fairly late to the game and far but think clubs will look at him as key sevens I’ve project

Sam Van Rooyen- 2 good finals games and finished the season strongly. Good athlete and when he’s on he’s on.  Confidence player who has threatened to grab games by the scruff of the neck of late

2024 eligible 

Austin Van Der Struyf - half back wing, elite kicking skills awareness and decision maker

Cody Angove - small forward with pace works high up the ground and possesses ability to move through traffic with quick feet and lateral movement

Hamish Davis - forward with good acceleration and tank to find space and make repeat leads. Kicking needs work but topped goal kickers in the PSA and IMO could develop into a high half forward link player with his endurance 

Perth

Aidan O’Driscoll - great tank, speed, awareness and decision making. Foot skills are very good and impacts the scoreboard 

Jake Watson- half back flanker who is good mark for his size and reads the play really well. Sets up much of their rebound with intercepts and decision making

Coen Livingston- not sure if he’ll play as he’s under an injury cloud. Big strong forward/ruck but see his strength as forward. Not athletic but good kick for a tall

Elijah Scoble - tall intercept defender who reads play well and also deceptively strong in contest. Probably a 3rd tall option at the next level

Oscar Hine-Baston - hard running defender with clean ground ball skills and penetrating kick. Good athlete and likes to take the game on. Very much and Adam Saad type player

Kalib Dempster-Park - dark horse draft chance. Midfielder who has had really strong season. Hard runner who wins the contest but gut runs to find space and gets involved in transition. Disposal okay but just knows how to find the footy

2024 eligible 

Cooper Moore - small mid/forward . Good decision maker with good foot skills who can also play through the middle and make an impact. Cool head who is cool in traffic and doesn’t panic with ball in hand. Size will be the question mark but has a lot of tools

Perth seem to have a reasonable crop of u18 players every couple if years but just don't develop them to be competitive in there seniors.

[Pennant St Dee 12,180]

19 minutes ago, drdrake said:

Perth seem to have a reasonable crop of u18 players every couple if years but just don't develop them to be competitive in there seniors.

Poorly run club for a long time to the point where it hasn’t mattered who the coach is.

Some changes last year at board level and I’m sure they will make more changes and eventually move forward 

Their 2006 group isn’t great but their 2007 group is not to bad, so may take a step back in Colts next season and get games into a younger group 

[drdrake 3,069]

Yep, they seem to look to get it on the right track and then get wrong people in and stuff it up.  If Clark is still ceo it will go no where 

[ChaserJ 4,202]

Adam Jones (WA talent manager) was on SEN WA this morning basically echoing much of @Pennant St Dee’s observations above.

Some insights on Dan Curtain and also what impact (or little) the compulsory 3 year contracts will have on draftee retention. 
 

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/09/21/wa-talent-manager-certain-roos-will-take-tall-at-2-if-reid-goes-at-1/

[spirit of norm smith 13,902]

Austin Van Der Struyf 

[Pennant St Dee 12,180]

9 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Austin Van Der Struyf 

Didn’t get a lot of it in the games played for WA this year but there were two passages of play vs SA at Optus where he takes possession and just delivers bullet passes about 45m straight onto chest of lead up team mate. Watched him through local community footy, PSA and Colts and I don’t exaggerate with the word elite with his foot skills 

Playing in the AFL Grand final curtain raiser next week if he gets through the WAFL Colts game unscathed 

Very nice kid too

[Redleg 38,935]

3 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

 

Sam Van Rooyen- 2 good finals games and finished the season strongly. Good athlete and when he’s on he’s on.  Confidence player who has threatened to grab games by the scruff of the neck of late

 

Would nearly take him just to keep JVR happy. He would be there at our 2nd round pick ( 31)  you would think.

[Pennant St Dee 12,180]

7 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Would nearly take him just to keep JVR happy. He would be there at our 2nd round pick ( 31)  you would think.

He will, that may be to early, I think Rookie maybe.

Good GF on Sunday may change that 

[Pennant St Dee 12,180]

On 9/22/2023 at 9:05 AM, Pennant St Dee said:

WAFL Colts Grand Final Sunday 12.10pm BD Perth time some good players on show for this year and next

Claremont 

Daniel Curtin - enough been said about him, with seniors knocked out he returns to the colts

Joe Fonti - quick deck and wide ground will suit him, running half back/wing possesses speed, but it’s the lateral movement and acceleration over first 5m which may see him taken with late pick

Zane Zakostelsky - athletic big man watch his leap and size. Fairly late to the game and far but think clubs will look at him as key sevens I’ve project

Sam Van Rooyen- 2 good finals games and finished the season strongly. Good athlete and when he’s on he’s on.  Confidence player who has threatened to grab games by the scruff of the neck of late

2024 eligible 

Austin Van Der Struyf - half back wing, elite kicking skills awareness and decision maker

Cody Angove - small forward with pace works high up the ground and possesses ability to move through traffic with quick feet and lateral movement

Hamish Davis - forward with good acceleration and tank to find space and make repeat leads. Kicking needs work but topped goal kickers in the PSA and IMO could develop into a high half forward link player with his endurance 

Perth

Aidan O’Driscoll - great tank, speed, awareness and decision making. Foot skills are very good and impacts the scoreboard 

Jake Watson- half back flanker who is good mark for his size and reads the play really well. Sets up much of their rebound with intercepts and decision making

Coen Livingston- not sure if he’ll play as he’s under an injury cloud. Big strong forward/ruck but see his strength as forward. Not athletic but good kick for a tall

Elijah Scoble - tall intercept defender who reads play well and also deceptively strong in contest. Probably a 3rd tall option at the next level

Oscar Hine-Baston - hard running defender with clean ground ball skills and penetrating kick. Good athlete and likes to take the game on. Very much and Adam Saad type player

Kalib Dempster-Park - dark horse draft chance. Midfielder who has had really strong season. Hard runner who wins the contest but gut runs to find space and gets involved in transition. Disposal okay but just knows how to find the footy

2024 eligible 

Cooper Moore - small mid/forward . Good decision maker with good foot skills who can also play through the middle and make an impact. Cool head who is cool in traffic and doesn’t panic with ball in hand. Size will be the question mark but has a lot of tools

Numbers for tomorrow to assist anyone watching 

7 Curtin

12 Van Rooyen 

18 Fonti

21 Zakostelsky

26 Van Der Struyf 

29 Angove

38 Davis

Perth

2 O’Driscoll

3 Moore

14 Watson 

18 Dempster-Park

26 Hine -Baston

29 Cachard

45 Livingstone

 

Edited September 23, 2023 by Pennant St Dee

[ChaserJ 4,202]

WAFL Colts GF streaming on 7 app now.

Curtin & Sam Van Rooyen playing.

Edited September 24, 2023 by ChaserJ

[adonski 9,753]

 

[Lord Travis 10,358]

On 9/24/2023 at 2:36 PM, ChaserJ said:

WAFL Colts GF streaming on 7 app now.

Curtin & Sam Van Rooyen playing.

How did Sam Van Rooyen go? He’s projected as a rookie pick. Might be a late option for us…

[Davos 746]

Draft Shaun Mannagh and prosper.

[Binmans PA 27,379]

On 9/21/2023 at 7:49 PM, ChaserJ said:

Cal Twomey’s reckons Edwards is jumping into first round contention with performances like this:

 

He definitely seems to have a good contest game, but has leg speed that we lack and seems to have excellent disposal.

Does he fall to our second pick?

Edited September 25, 2023 by Binmans PA

[Demon Disciple 11,303]

50 minutes ago, Davos said:

Draft Shaun Mannagh and prosper.

He definitely did his draft chances no harm yesterday. Might even be a 3rd rounder after that.

[Demonstone 20,563]

1 hour ago, Davos said:

Draft Shaun Mannagh and prosper.

Mannagh could be all manner of manna from heaven.

[ChaserJ 4,202]

2 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

How did Sam Van Rooyen go? He’s projected as a rookie pick. Might be a late option for us…

Set up an early goal, apart from that well held. Rookie range would be about right.

Curtin was important in defence & midfield without being completely dominant (23 touches).

[ChaserJ 4,202]

Highlights of Curtin's GF performance:

 

[Pennant St Dee 12,180]

WAFL Colts GF

Zane Zakostelsky- clear best on ground dominated in the ruck and with his follow up work at ground level. Commentators were a little disengenuous saying he was dominating due to Livingstone being out, but he actually towelled Livingstone up 2 weeks ago in the semi final. Turned over a few kicks and will take time at AFL level 

Dan Curtin - played mostly midfield before dropping back into the backline late in the fourth. Good game without being outstanding. Took some key marks and prominent around the stoppages in the 3rd when Claremont took total control. Copped significant treatment from Perth players at every opportunity throughout the day

Cody Angove - very good early, playing high up the ground and getting involved in transition. Showed how dangerous he is around goal with snap on the run in the second- one to watch next year

Hamish Davis best forward on the ground used his endurance to present all day and to good for Cameron Hall. Kicked 3 and very important in the 4th with his leading patterns and 1v2 wins when Perth were pushing head

Seb Ballard - really solid effort as medium defender. Big bodied player who took several marks and set up rebound from Claremont defensive 50

Kai Dehaviland - strong in and under performance around the stoppages and also some poise with ball in hand when playing forward to set up tea mates

Bailey Banfield - another contested mid who won hardball and was clean with his ball use. Hit Davis with a beautiful kick on the move to set up a goal

Elijah Scoble - Perths best took several intercept marks, hit the contest hard to spoil after leaving his direct opponent. Probably a 3rd tall at next level if drafted but did his chances no harm on Sunday

Aidan O’Driscoll - on fire early kicking the first two goals of the game with the second being one on the run where he showed his explosive pace and skill to kick a snap at full pace. Doesn’t play accountable footy but with that pace, foot skills and ability to impact the scoreboard should get picked up

Jake Watson- found a fair bit of footy as he has all year with his reading of the play. Not as big an impact as normal but was important when Perth threw caution to the wind and he pushed forward more from half back

Oscar Hine-Baston - had his hands full and probably lowered his colours to Angove but showed some glimpses with running handball receives of the line breaking ability he has