On 03/07/2022 at 02:11, one_demon said:

We do this every single year, complain about the umpires.  Everyone make mistakes at work so how can we expect the umpires to be any different? They make mistakes and will continue to do so in the future just like everyone else.  Why can't people just accept it and move on?

But these aren't mistakes. This is blatantly being scared to award the opposition there correct free kicks for fear of crowd reaction, pure and simple.

Are you saying it was just mistakes that saw us get 3 free kicks in 3/4, when we are up on possessions and ultimately win the contest?

These were two very inexperienced umpires, one a local, who were obviously not wanting to upset a feral crowd. It's not good enough in professional sport.

These umpires have to be spoken to and told, " pay what you see or that's it." 

  On 03/07/2022 at 02:14, GM11 said:

The crowd clearly umpired that game.

No excuse for blatant incompetence. 

Correct.

  On 02/07/2022 at 11:47, Blistering said:

There has to be a royal commission into what took place at Adelaide Oval today.

Seriously?  There's people who are having bombs dropped on their heads and you're worried about umpiring in a football match.

They put the good umps on for big games so it’s hardly a surprise they snuck a couple of local guys in for 1 v 13 in a twilight fixture.

But the Brown ruck free kick, the Oliver coat hanger, the Langdon hold as he was set to receive a handball and the complete lack of free kicks was as bad as I’ve seen.

I’d have been apoplectic if we lost 

  On 02/07/2022 at 22:15, spirit of norm smith said:

 

The umpiring was criminal all night. Biased to the Crows.  It was 23-9 but also so many missed free kicks for us.  

We have highlighted the Walker free … it was unbelievable.  I think they called play on then the free kick.  

Oliver was hammered and two umps missed it … somehow.   Oliver was scrapped by Berry all night and got nothing. He was held without the footy and not given one free. 

Keays free in the last (and goal) was another.  They didn’t pay holding the ball for most of the night.  It was a dog fight.  Then 15 metrs out from Crows goal , Brayshaw gets pinged.  I almost smashed the Tv. 

And frees to Doedee and O’Brien were actually met with surprise by them. Maybe chopping arms but that happened over and over again.

BBB was smashed in the arms at every contest.

Fritsch was held by one arm by Butts and didn’t receive one free kick. 

I agree the commentary is rubbish. Hudson and Dunstall and Ruccuito were clearly barracking for the Crows. They seemingly never questioned a decision (just thd Oliver one).   Then they gave us plaudits once MFC had the game won. 

Clearly the home town crowd noise had an influence.  We had to beat the Crows and the umps !!  And we did … Go Dees 

Yeah that Brayshaw free for dragging it in was crap and right in front of goal.

Replay showed an Adelaide player toeing the ball back in under Brayshaw as he was jumped on by other Crows.

They showed the replay and I think it was Dunstall who paid a compliment to one of the Crows tacklers for his "skillful appeal to win a free in front of goals"

wtf

I'm all for putting the whistle away but then you get stupid 50 / 50 frees paid directly in front.

The whole night consisted of Crows players getting tackled when they clearly had time to dispose of the ball and decided to go to ground or just drop it. Our typical pressure game was not rewarded.

For those who say, just accept it, we won anyway.

We shouldn't have to.

This amateur standard in a professional game has already cost us a game at Adelaide oval and just wait for next week when the opposition is more competitive at another hostile ground.

  On 03/07/2022 at 02:33, one_demon said:

Seriously?  There's people who are having bombs dropped on their heads and you're worried about umpiring in a football match.

and you're posting on a footy fan site?

  On 03/07/2022 at 02:33, one_demon said:

Seriously?  There's people who are having bombs dropped on their heads and you're worried about umpiring in a football match.

Well if you want to put it like that, we should close down DL and all social forums and only deal/discuss the serious world issues.

Probably a good idea to cancel all sport and leisure activities while we are at it.

Blistering was making a joke, you do realize that don't you?

Think you went a bit over the top don't you think? 

Edited July 3, 20222 yr by Redleg

  On 03/07/2022 at 02:36, Brownie said:

 

They showed the replay and I think it was Dunstall who paid a compliment to one of the Crows tacklers for his "skillful appeal to win a free in front of goals"

wtf

.

Yeah the fox/kayo commentary was trash.

  On 03/07/2022 at 02:33, one_demon said:

Seriously?  There's people who are having bombs dropped on their heads and you're worried about umpiring in a football match.

Just watched the replay (1st time), and was expecting the umpiring to be horrendous based on this thread. It wasn’t. Yes, several clangers, and as happens in ‘crowd’ influence games, the umps aren’t keyed into looking for Dees frees as much as for the ‘crowd’ team, so only award them if they’re unignorable and egregious. Experience and conscious awareness of this by umpires goes a long way, but the AFL won’t admit the problem, so won’t properly look to solve it. The best umpires don’t succumb to crowd influence, so we need better umpires. Over to you AFL. 
 

As to the commentary, it was a typical low grade ‘underdog’ barracking effort, except for Jason Dunstall, who loves the Dees, and is one of Clarrie’s champions particularly, for reasons that he articulates very well, and often! 

Edited July 3, 20222 yr by Webber

  On 03/07/2022 at 00:25, Clintosaurus said:

Luke Darcy calls Bulldogs games. Is also a Dogs board member. No conflicts of interest in the media.

I don’t think it matters much if commentators are connected with certain clubs. Sport is entertainment. We had Daisy Pearce commentating and no one here complains. The football world and associated media has always been incestuous and nepotistic  and bias in some form is always there. It is what it is.

Edited July 3, 20222 yr by John Crow Batty

  On 03/07/2022 at 02:53, John Crow Batty said:

I don’t think it matters much if commentators are connected with certain clubs. Sport is entertainment. We had Daisy Pearce commentating and no one here complains. The football world and associated media is incestuous and nepotistic and bias in some form is always there. It is what it is.

Nate Jones often gets the Dees too and I’ve no problems with his commentary 

  On 02/07/2022 at 23:12, sue said:

To those that say "we won, get over the umpiring", I say there is nothing wrong with discussing any and all aspects of a game.  When the umpiring is egregious, it is likely to figure prominently in people's comments on the game.  Why not? We don't have to prove how morally superior we are by chosing to overlook it.

Furthermore when you can only see a match on TV, there is a lot you cannot see and therefore can't reasonably discuss, but the umpiring usuallly stands out.  It has been pretty bad so far this weekend.  So it will be commented on. To quote those who say "get over it", I say, get over people commenting on it.

One of the truely great words in the English language Sue. Thanks for using it. 

(Now . . . where is my Oxford?)

Edited July 3, 20222 yr by Queanbeyan Demon
Typo

  On 03/07/2022 at 02:33, one_demon said:

Seriously?  There's people who are having bombs dropped on their heads and you're worried about umpiring in a football match.

seriously, i can't remember the last time when someone, somewhere wasn't having bombs dropped on their head

p.s. seriously, you didn't really think the poster was seriously suggesting a royal commission, did you?

  On 02/07/2022 at 13:09, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

 

 

Thankyou 

These Umps should be sacked 

  On 03/07/2022 at 03:10, daisycutter said:

seriously, i can't remember the last time when someone, somewhere wasn't having bombs dropped on their head

p.s. seriously, you didn't really think the poster was seriously suggesting a royal commission, did you?

Quite frankly, a Royal Commission does not nearly go far enough. I would have thought a fully parliamentary inquiry with very broad terms of reference is required. Stan from Stradbroke Island should chair, as he has all the relevant statistics at hand. At the completion of the said inquiry, a Truth and Reconciliation Commission should be established, where former and current Demons are given the opportunity to tell their story. First called to the stand should be Roger Ellingworth, Peter Giles, Stephen Smith, Max Gawn and a representative of the Flower family. In witness protection should be Leigh Matthews and Razor Ray.

Edited July 3, 20222 yr by Queanbeyan Demon
Typo

  On 02/07/2022 at 23:54, Redleg said:

Surprise, umpire 20, who I don’t think paid a single Dees free, is an SANFL umpire with little AFL experience, having one AFL game before this year. Jamie Broadbent.

Umpire 31 Paul Rebeschini had 8 AFL games before this year.

Both would have been affected by crowd.

Well I think that explains it a bit. Lack of experience- hopefully it gets reviewed and they get feedback and learn from it.

it was a disappointing performance but I don’t but into the trying to get Adelaide to win narrative. They are human, they were overcome by the crowd.
 

Maybe get them in Melbourne for their first 20-30 games before umpiring in their home state. 

  On 03/07/2022 at 03:24, Sir Why You Little said:

Thankyou 

These Umps should be sacked 

Has to be a Dees supporter, smoking nearly as much as we are 😁. He’s not wrong though.

  On 03/07/2022 at 02:34, DeeSpencer said:

But the Brown ruck free kick, the Oliver coat hanger, the Langdon hold as he was set to receive a handball and the complete lack of free kicks was as bad as I’ve seen.

I also thought that if you are going to pay head high when Tex ducks then you have to pay both sides.

Clarry was a shocker, Brown mark, Fogs? spectacular non attempt at a mark, Brayshaw didnt drag it in....

but the obvious reason for the discrepancy was that we had the ball.

  On 02/07/2022 at 22:27, Captain Jack Jordan said:

Average town, low grade team, third grade umpiring. 

We wont be back for a year.

Thanks for nothing.

Enjoy eating your floaters-fished from the toilet.

Don't forget that Elizabeth and Norlane are sister towns. Brace yourself for next week.

It will be just as bad in Geelong on Thursday.

I hope our coaches are working with the players to cut out the silly free kicks that the umpires will be hot on.

Whilst there’s NO doubt the umpiring was rigged, Lever was given a lifeline when not penalized for fumbling ( deliberately) the ball over the goal line when under absolutely no pressure.

  On 02/07/2022 at 11:47, Blistering said:

Now look. I don’t usually complain about the umpires and I’m fully aware that it’s a hard task recruiting umpires but fair go.

There has to be a royal commission into what took place at Adelaide Oval today.

Here’s an example of what I’m talking about. What in blazes is this all about?

I thought this was a free to Tex. Mitch Brown looked at Tex and side stepped into his path (blocked Tex's run at the ball) which Rex exaggerated by jumping over Brown.

My only criticism would be where our players were tackled without the ball probably 3 times, taking them out of play while we got pinged when we did the same in the 4th quarter. There was also the forearm that Clarry copped, but I was super impressed that he didn't complain and just went about his business. This said, I thought the umpiring was of an acceptable standard didn't have any really bearing on the result.

The week before v Brisbane I thought the umpiring was superb, the umpires got the balance right in letting the play continue and not over officiating particularly where a player ducked their head to draw high contact.

  On 03/07/2022 at 07:09, joeboy said:

Whilst there’s NO doubt the umpiring was rigged, Lever was given a lifeline when not penalized for fumbling ( deliberately) the ball over the goal line when under absolutely no pressure.

Joeboy, these are the sort of things which balance out. Even if Adelaide won I don't think we could say the umpires had a major impact on the result.

Freo winning cheap frees at home 13-7  who would have thought??

corruption! It’s a conspiracy!

lol