1 hour ago, Dwight Schrute said:

 

I think you could get a stronger first round selection than 20 odd. I agree with dazzle this isn’t done but I think we are in the window and letting an all Australian calibre player walk out of the club for less than he’s worth would be regrettable. 
 

his value is arguably closer to a top 10 pick and just because clubs don’t match typically doesn’t mean we shouldn’t. Unless the offer is enormous, I’d match and put it back on the team to get a deal done. 

Freo demanded and got pick 2 for Lachie Weller. 

19 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Completely untrue. 
 

I have been told that until Jackson makes a decision than they have no more money to up their offer to Gus.  Don’t forget Gus is on an incredibly high contract that he signed in the year he came 3rd in the Brownlow.

Do we know how much Gus is on? Gun midfielders tend to get paid more than wingers or backs.

So if we are asking him to take a pay cut for doing the team thing by playing in positions where we have a greater need for him rather than his supposedly favourite position in midfield it not to difficult to see why he’s look at his options. 
It’s a complicated situation as I don’t thinks it’s a simple as wait until Jackson deal goes through so we can offer him more money. For example as a winger is he worth more than Langdon ? Or worth more as a half back than Salem? Will he be more important to our backline over the next few seasons than Petty?

If we offer a bigger contract then it might have a ripple effect over the next few years,  it also shows other player at the club that it is worth playing the long game to squeeze as much as possible out of the club. 
I love Gus and think he will stay but I’m not as certain as I was before.

 
Edit. Lord Nev says he’s currently under $600 which should mean he would not be taken a pay cut. 

Edited July 22, 20222 yr by Colm

Unlike Jackson, Gus very much has a life in Melbourne. Between the club, his partner Danielle and the Frawley family, it’s very hard to see him leaving. 

2 minutes ago, Colm said:

Do we know how much Gus is on? Gun midfielders tend to get paid more than wingers or backs.

So if we are asking him to take a pay cut for doing the team thing by playing in positions where we have a greater need for him rather than his supposedly favourite position in midfield it not to difficult to see why he’s look at his options. 
It’s a complicated situation as I don’t thinks it’s a simple as wait until Jackson deal goes through so we can offer him more money. For example as a winger is he worth more than Langdon ? Or worth more as a half back than Salem? Will he be more important to our backline over the next few seasons than Petty?

If we offer a bigger contract then it might have a ripple effect over the next few years,  it also shows other player at the club that it is worth playing the long game to squeeze as much as possible out of the club. 
I love Gus and think he will stay but I’m not as certain as I was before. 
 

Gus and Jacko have the same Manager. He knows the state of play.

Jacko leaves and Gus stays on probably a 5 year deal.

3 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

Unlike Jackson, Gus very much has a life in Melbourne. Between the club, his partner Danielle and the Frawley family, it’s very hard to see him leaving. 

To Essendon?

4 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Gus and Jacko have the same Manager. He knows the state of play.

Jacko leaves and Gus stays on probably a 5 year deal.

And possibly an extra 50 or 100K per annum.

If Your in the shoes of Gus with concussion history a longer term deal would be high on wanted list.

Going to another Vic team, he might get midfield and a bit more cash, but walks away from his leadership position at Demons, friendships, relationships, success, then has to restart at a new club.

32 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Because our cap won’t allow us to match the offer 

But with Jackson one foot out the door, we will have a budgeted 600-800k per year freed up. We allegedly could fit both in our cap earlier in the year and now we can't fit either? Doesn't sound right.

13 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Gus and Jacko have the same Manager. He knows the state of play.

Obviously wants best for both clients but they're sort of intertwined together, so curious how it plays out.

Not sure how client confidentiality works in that field, but wonder what information/if any he is giving to both players in relation to the other player. Although guess it may be somewhat obvious based on offers going back and forth.

2 hours ago, Dwight Schrute said:

 

I think you could get a stronger first round selection than 20 odd. I agree with dazzle this isn’t done but I think we are in the window and letting an all Australian calibre player walk out of the club for less than he’s worth would be regrettable. 
 

his value is arguably closer to a top 10 pick and just because clubs don’t match typically doesn’t mean we shouldn’t. Unless the offer is enormous, I’d match and put it back on the team to get a deal done. 

Picks 10-12 could deliver a player like Lucas Cook, Gysberts, Weideman or Clark

Busts are a part of drafting and need to be factored in.  Doing so (factoring in the busts) is good business practice

In a general sense draft picks are severely overrated ... and the points system adds fuel to the fire

If it comes to it I'd want a pick around the 6-8 mark for Brayshaw

And that pick has a 50% chance of being a bust anyway

That's the truth and that's what the data tells us (historically)

 

Edited July 22, 20222 yr by Macca

I’ve had enough of this.

Its time the club wrote to each member and explained their tactical position on these signatures.

Am I seriously supposed to be enjoying the race to the finals while all this commotion is going on.?

Edited July 22, 20222 yr by bluey
Spellen

12 minutes ago, bluey said:

I’ve had enough of this.

Its time the club wrote to each member and explained their tactical position on these signatures.

Am I seriously supposed to be enjoying the race to the finals while all this commotion is going on.?

you should write a stern letter

Brayshaw renegotiated his contract on the back of his stellar post bye season of 2018. He would be paid very well. 

1 hour ago, Mel Bourne said:

Unlike Jackson, Gus very much has a life in Melbourne. Between the club, his partner Danielle and the Frawley family, it’s very hard to see him leaving. 

Leaving Melbourne  - yes,  staying in Melb but leaving the Dees - very real threat.

And a pick around the 20 mark might deliver players such as Tapscott, Blease, Maric or Strauss (for a proven player like Brayshaw)

 

Hope you enjoy that little flashback, folks! haha

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

Gus and Jacko have the same Manager. He knows the state of play.

Jacko leaves and Gus stays on probably a 5 year deal.

I 100% agree here, once its known Jackson is gone Gus will sign with a little extra in him pocket. and he is worth it.

give him 150k more year just to make sure he doesn't put on a Red and Black Guernsey,  i couldn't handle that!

Keeping this side together was always going to be near impossible. Even if we somehow keep both Brayshaw and Jackson we only  get start another thread with the next young gun who has a breakout season. 

1 hour ago, whatwhat say what said:

you should write a stern letter

Typed with one finger, very angrily.

3 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Typed with one finger, very angrily.

in caps

31 minutes ago, Macca said:

And a pick around the 20 mark might deliver players such as Tapscott, Blease, Maric or Strauss (for a proven player like Brayshaw)

 

Hope you enjoy that little flashback, folks! haha

But Strauss is such a beautiful kick...you'll see when he cements a spot in the senior team

I’d also not underestimate the fact that the media got hold of Gus meeting with Essendon. Often these things are leaked by player managers to put pressure on the club to up the offer. 
 

this one sends a clear message to the dees that Gus wants to stay in Victoria but you’re going to have to up the offer on the table 

4 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

I’d also not underestimate the fact that the media got hold of Gus meeting with Essendon. Often these things are leaked by player managers to put pressure on the club to up the offer. 
 

this one sends a clear message to the dees that Gus wants to stay in Victoria but you’re going to have to up the offer on the table 

probably......but it also could have been a meeting about gus with his manager and essendon

the media are very loose with their wording and love ambiguity

Gus doesn’t strike me as the kind of person to leave the MFC just for the money. To me it would be virtually all about the opportunity to play the role that he feels best suits him. If MFC are not going to give him that opportunity, then why wouldn’t you look around? With the wealth of talent we have down back, I cannot understand why Gus hasn’t been given a shot in the middle - particularly last week with Oliver out. If mid time opportunity is his beef, then I’d say last week would have been a knife in the back. I’d suggest that Gus is a much better all round player now than when he came 3rd in the Brownlow back in 2018, and as such, would be much better equipped to lift our dismal clearance numbers. So give him a go in the center Goody,  what have you got to lose? (Other than Gus).

25 minutes ago, The Swimming Dee said:

But Strauss is such a beautiful kick...you'll see when he cements a spot in the senior team

All the draftees tried their best ... but that's the vagaries of drafting

Since that time we've done extra well

It's a bit like betting on the horses!

14 minutes ago, Macca said:

All the draftees tried their best ... but that's the vagaries of drafting

Since that time we've done extra well

It's a bit like betting on the horses!

So you think we might be due a bust 'Macca'????

Best we put our chips on tried and proven if we get some draft capital this year...

6 minutes ago, rjay said:

So you think we might be due a bust 'Macca'????

Best we put our chips on tried and proven if we get some draft capital this year...

We keep ridin' the JT train, rjay

The bloke has got a great eye for talent

Up there with Wells, Clayton & the Richmond recruiter