Jump to content

Farewell Luke Jackson

Lucifers Hero
Lucifers Hero
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

45 minutes ago, Garbo said:

If freo are only willing to offer there 1st this year and next would we be willing to walk away and send him into the draft, 13 this year and next would be equivalent in points to pick 3. Is that enough assuming they even offer that, any less and I’d want to make a point 

No

  • Quote
    • Like 2
     
    1 hour ago, Pennant St Dee said:

    Did you refer to Lever and Langdon as Mammys boys for returning from interstate?

    Now be careful PSD, that could be construed as racist!

  • Quote
    • Haha 2
    23 hours ago, Demonland said:

    Goodbye Luke 

     

    I know he isn’t exactly Einstein, but I reckon his exit has been handled poorly, contrary to his mother’s opinion. He hasn’t explained exactly why he is leaving, no statement thanking the MFC and supporters. He can get stuffed. Dopey muppet

  • Quote
    • Like 6
    • Love 2
    • Haha 1
     
    53 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

    He hasn’t explained exactly why he is leaving, no statement thanking the MFC and supporters. He can get stuffed. Dopey muppet

    At least Tom Scully did this.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    • Haha 2
    7 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

    At least Tom Scully did this.

    I’m all honesty though, how hard would it have been to put our something on his social media simply saying “Thanks to the MFC for drafting me and giving me the opportunity to become a premiership player. I loved my time in red and blue and thanks to the fans for your support. It’s time for me to go home and be with family” - basic decency. He is dumb, no doubt about it, and has been managed poorly by his player agent. 

  • Quote
    • Like 6
    • Thanks 1

    8 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

    I’m all honesty though, how hard would it have been to put our something on his social media simply saying “Thanks to the MFC for drafting me and giving me the opportunity to become a premiership player. I loved my time in red and blue and thanks to the fans for your support. It’s time for me to go home and be with family” - basic decency. He is dumb, no doubt about it, and has been managed poorly by his player agent. 

    How about waiting til the deal is complete first! . If he does that kind of thing now it’s undermining our position. I have no doubt he is getting informed by the club in terms how they would like him to conduct himself. 

  • Quote
    • Like 12
    23 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

    How about waiting til the deal is complete first! . If he does that kind of thing now it’s undermining our position. I have no doubt he is getting informed by the club in terms how they would like him to conduct himself. 

    How is it undermining our position? Really interested .. he has announced he is leaving and requesting a trade to WA. How would thanking the supporters impact the trade? 

  • Quote
    • Like 2
     
    12 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

    How is it undermining our position? Really interested .. he has announced he is leaving and requesting a trade to WA. How would thanking the supporters impact the trade? 

    Im just speculating. But fwiw this is my thinking. it would seem to me if he says “goodbye” before a deal is actually done it automatically diminishes our hand. If Grundy said “goodbye and thank you” to the pie fans pre deal, wouldn’t you think it’s possible we could pay less for him?  I understand Grundy is still contracted so it’s not exactly the same, but none the less Jackson is saying no more or less than Grundy atm. And I’m sure both of them care enough about their previous team mates to hold off on saying too much before things are finalised. 

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    1 hour ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

    I know he isn’t exactly Einstein, but I reckon his exit has been handled poorly, contrary to his mother’s opinion. He hasn’t explained exactly why he is leaving, no statement thanking the MFC and supporters. He can get stuffed. Dopey muppet

    Thanking your old club usually only happens after the trade in minted. He is still contacted to mfc for a bit more

  • Quote
    • Like 8

    32 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

    Thanking your old club usually only happens after the trade in minted. He is still contacted to mfc for a bit more

    plus if a deal can't be made he might decide to stay       lol lol lol

     

    not serious

  • Quote
    • Haha 2
    1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

    plus if a deal can't be made he might decide to stay       lol lol lol

     

    not serious

    He'll certainly want to avoid North via PSD.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    14 minutes ago, layzie said:

    He'll certainly want to avoid North via PSD.

    Not sure how the preseason draft works these days but can't he price himself quite high?  Say $1.5Million?  For one year only?

    Surely North can't just grab him and then pay him peanuts.  And for how long? Or does the AFL have a say?  

    But a deal will be done before it gets to that scenario and it will almost certainly be with Freo.  I'm still of the opinion that a very big offer came early (the money) so all the rest of it is working out what he's worth in a trade

    Others may be convinced that it's all about the go-home factor but I'm reckoning that's the secondary reason

    Buddy, Ablett & Scully all went for money.  Dusty held out and as soon as North offered the big money, the Tigers came to the party with the fat contract.  Martin then signed on the dotted line and the rest is history

  • Quote
    3 hours ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

    I’m all honesty though, how hard would it have been to put our something on his social media simply saying “Thanks to the MFC for drafting me and giving me the opportunity to become a premiership player. I loved my time in red and blue and thanks to the fans for your support. It’s time for me to go home and be with family” - basic decency. He is dumb, no doubt about it, and has been managed poorly by his player agent. 

    It may happen when he actually becomes a Docker? 

    Edited by Ethan Tremblay
    Similar point already raised by another poster.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    4 hours ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

    I’m all honesty though, how hard would it have been to put our something on his social media simply saying “Thanks to the MFC for drafting me and giving me the opportunity to become a premiership player. I loved my time in red and blue and thanks to the fans for your support. It’s time for me to go home and be with family” - basic decency. He is dumb, no doubt about it, and has been managed poorly by his player agent. 

     

    7BE5784C-0C83-4FE4-9CD5-D4B6465F1322.jpeg

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    • Haha 1

    Oof, Luke. Dunno how often it works when people return to WA. The childhood experience is so different from the adult one, I reckon, if you have been exposed to bigger, less isolated cities. Not to mention becoming the biggest, youngest, flashiest fish in a very small pond. His family is going to need to get around him, cos he will be on the backpage more often than not. Personally, the thought feels suffocating. I wish gratitude and luck to the young fella and would much rather see the Dockers land him than WCE who can continue to go and [censored] themselves forever and a day. 

  • Quote
    • Like 4
    • Haha 1
    15 hours ago, Garbo said:

    If freo are only willing to offer there 1st this year and next would we be willing to walk away and send him into the draft, 13 this year and next would be equivalent in points to pick 3. Is that enough assuming they even offer that, any less and I’d want to make a point 

    The equivalent in points to pick 3 doesn’t make an offer, equivalent in the real value of the player at the present time. The club used pick 3 to select him and with it came risks as to whether he would improve, be injured and yes, even as to whether he would succumb to the risk of flight which was always there. The club’s investment in Jackson paid off, he improved immensely and is now a premiership player with a long future ahead of him as a top player in a position where the number of players at the elite level is limited. To me, that makes his current trade value much greater than the points equivalent of the number at which he was selected three years ago.

  • Quote
    • Like 15

    Ouch.  Go back to the first page and early pages. We’d hope that LJ would at least sign for another 2 years (up to 5 years) with the lure of playing with his mates Riv and Kozzzy and further premiership success. After winning the ‘21 premiership, we were high on optimism.  
     

    But unfortunately the known poison of the “go home factor” was too strong and the enticement of home-family/surf/$$$ all proven the winner for LJ and his management.  
     

    It’s all over after 3 years. His burst of brilliance in games (especially the ‘21 GF) and domination v Lions in round 14 this year will be fondly remembered.  Though he was always “nearly” ready to be a star, yet still at only 20 and often frustrated with dropped marks and silly decision making.     

    He’s got a lot to thank MFC for and to Goody, the coaches & staff, Jason Taylor and his teammates. 

    Thanks LJ for 52 games, a 2021 premiership player and 2021 rising star winner.  

  • Quote
    • Like 4
    7 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

    The equivalent in points to pick 3 doesn’t make an offer, equivalent in the real value of the player at the present time. The club used pick 3 to select him and with it came risks as to whether he would improve, be injured and yes, even as to whether he would succumb to the risk of flight which was always there. The club’s investment in Jackson paid off, he improved immensely and is now a premiership player with a long future ahead of him as a top player in a position where the number of players at the elite level is limited. To me, that makes his current trade value much greater than the points equivalent of the number at which he was selected three years ago.

    image.gif.62c782ed82a63c2508bf7a39d50bc372.gif

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    fwiw, from the sun:

    Melbourne says it wants two first-rounders and a second-rounder or two picks within 10 (including one within the first seven picks) for Jackson.

    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/moneyball-afl-trades-all-the-latest-news-and-whispers-on-potential-2022-player-movement/news-story/1855f1401433f17306a756a3e7f5405a

    first time i've seen it said what we are chasing for dog

  • Quote
    • Like 9
    • Thanks 5

    • Author
    6 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

    fwiw, from the sun:

    Melbourne says it wants two first-rounders and a second-rounder or two picks within 10 (including one within the first seven picks) for Jackson.

    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/moneyball-afl-trades-all-the-latest-news-and-whispers-on-potential-2022-player-movement/news-story/1855f1401433f17306a756a3e7f5405a

    first time i've seen it said what we are chasing for dog

    That is doable for Freo:  2022 first (#13) and first 2023 (#11 - #14) first and North's 2023 second (#19 - #21) from the Logue/Tucker trade and we may need to give something back; a 3rd round pick maybe...

    That is not dissimilar to Kelly to WCE who gave two first and two second round picks:  #14, 18, 24 and 33 but got back #52 and a future 3rd round pick. 

    While Jackson is worth a lot more than Kelly I'd do the two firsts and one second deal.

    Edited by Lucifers Hero

  • Quote
    • Like 2

    One could always argue “we have to wait and see how we use these picks” but 2 first round picks in the teens just seems like we’re losing out. A top 5 pick should be a must, but I can’t see it happening. 

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    That is doable for Freo:  2022 first (#13) and first 2023 (#11 - #14) first and North's 2023 second (#19 - #21) from the Logue/Tucker trade and we may need to give something back; a 3rd round pick maybe...

    That is not similar to Kelly to WCE who gave two first and two second round picks:  #14, 18, 24 and 33 but got back #52 and a future 3rd round pick. 

    While Jackson is worth a lot more than Kelly I'd do the two firsts and one second deal.

    Hopefully we would use the second on Grundy, and not one of the firsts

  • Quote
    • Like 5
     
    On 9/21/2022 at 8:35 PM, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

    I’m all honesty though, how hard would it have been to put our something on his social media simply saying “Thanks to the MFC for drafting me and giving me the opportunity to become a premiership player. I loved my time in red and blue and thanks to the fans for your support. It’s time for me to go home and be with family” - basic decency. He is dumb, no doubt about it, and has been managed poorly by his player agent. 

    That’s what happens when mummy still wipes his butt & ticks him into bed. What a weak individual, no respect, no conviction, no acknowledgment at all about the club that made him. Mummy pulls all the strings & runs his life, how demoralising that must be for a man.

    Ahwell at least they get to spoon in bed at night. Couldn’t care what happens but hopefully he has a short & unsuccessful career now.I rate the mop headed mummies boy lower than Scully as honestly everyone knew Scully was gone & at least he was man enough to face the public himself. 

  • Quote
    6 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

    fwiw, from the sun:

    Melbourne says it wants two first-rounders and a second-rounder or two picks within 10 (including one within the first seven picks) for Jackson.

    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/moneyball-afl-trades-all-the-latest-news-and-whispers-on-potential-2022-player-movement/news-story/1855f1401433f17306a756a3e7f5405a

    first time i've seen it said what we are chasing for dog

    We should be also willing to accept a number of lower picks rather than just a top 7 pick and a top 10 pick so long as the aggregate value is the same. 

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    • Shocked 1

    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

    Guest
    Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
    Reply to this topic...
    Go to topic listing

    Featured Content

    • FEATURE: 1925

      A hundred years ago today, on 2 May 1925, Melbourne kicked off the new season with a 47 point victory over St Kilda to take top place on the VFL ladder after the opening round of the new season.  Top place was a relatively unknown position for the team then known as the “Fuchsias.” They had finished last in 1923 and rose by only one place in the following year although the final home and away round heralded a promise of things to come when they surprised the eventual premiers Essendon. That victory set the stage for more improvement and it came rapidly. In this series, I will tell the story of how the 1925 season unfolded for the Melbourne Football Club and how it made the VFL finals for the first time in a decade on the way to the ultimate triumph a year later.

      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PREVIEW: West Coast

      Saturday’s election night game in Perth between the West Coast Eagles and Melbourne represents 18th vs 15th which makes it a tough decision as to which party to favour. The Eagles have yet to break the ice under their new coach in Andrew McQualter who is the second understudy in a row to confront Demon Coach Simon Goodwin who was also winless until a fortnight ago. On that basis, many punters might be considering to go with the donkey vote but I’ve been assigned with the task of helping readers to come to a considered opinion on this matter of vital importance across the nation. It was almost a year ago that I wrote a preview here of the Demons’ away game against the Eagles (under the name William from Waalitj because it was Indigenous Round).  I issued a warning that it was a danger game, based on my local knowledge that the home team were no longer easybeats and that they possessed a wunderkind generational player in Harley Reid who was capable of producing stellar performances playing among men a decade and more older than he.  At the time, the Eagles already had two wins off the back of a couple of the young man’s masterclasses and they had recently given the Bombers a scare straight after their Anzac Day blockbuster draw against the then reigning premiers.

      • 1 reply
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • NON-MFC: Round 08

      Round 08 of the 2025 AFL Season kicks off on Thursday with a must-win game for the Bombers to stay in touch with the top eight, while the struggling Roos seek a morale-boosting upset. Friday sees the Saints desperate for a win as well if they are to stay in finals contention and their opponents the Dockers will be eager to crack in to the Top 8 with a win on the road. Saturday kicks off with a pivotal clash for both sides asthe Bulldogs look to solidify their top-eight spot, while Port seeks to shake their pretender tag. Then the Crows will be looking to steady their topsy turvy season against a resurgent Blues looking to make it 4 wins on the trot. On Election Night a Blockbuster will see the ladder-leading Pies take on the Cats, who are keen to bounce back after a narrow loss. On Sunday the Sydney Derby promises fireworks as the Giants aim to cement their top-eight status, while the Swans fight to keep their season alive. The Hawks, celebrating their centenary, will be looking to easily account for the Tigers who are desperate to halt their slide. The Round concludes on Sunday Night with a top end of the table QClash with significant ladder implications; both Queensland teams are in scintillating form. Who are you tipping this week and what are the best results for the Demons?

        • Like
      • 148 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PREGAME: West Coast

      The Demons hit the road in Round 8, heading to Perth to face the West Coast Eagles at Optus Stadium. With momentum building, the Dees will be aiming for a third straight victory to keep their season revival on course. Who comes in and who goes out?

        • Like
      • 563 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • REPORT: Richmond

      The fans who turned up to the MCG for Melbourne’s Anzac Day Eve clash against Richmond would have been disappointed if they turned up to see a great spectacle. As much as this was a night for the 71,635 in attendance to commemorate heroes of the nation’s past wars, it was also a time for the Melbourne Football Club to consolidate upon its first win after a horrific start to the 2025 season. On this basis, despite the fact that it was an uninspiring and dour struggle for most of its 100 minutes, the night will be one for the fans to remember. They certainly got value out of the pre match activity honouring those who fought for their country. The MCG and the lights of the city as backdrop was made for nights such as these and, in my view, we received a more inspirational ceremony of Anzac culture than others both here and elsewhere around the country. 

      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • CASEY: Richmond

      The match up of teams competing in our great Aussie game at its second highest level is a rarity for a work day Thursday morning but the blustery conditions that met the players at a windswept Casey Fields was something far more commonplace.They turned the opening stanza between the Casey Demons and a somewhat depleted Richmond VFL into a mess of fumbling unforced errors, spilt marks and wasted opportunities for both sides but they did set up a significant win for the home team which is exactly what transpired on this Anzac Day round opener. Casey opened up strong against the breeze with the first goal to Aidan Johnson, the Tigers quickly responded and the game degenerated into a defensive slog and the teams were level when the first siren sounded.

      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland
    View All