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No thanks. Billings and Maynard I'm interested in but not Gunston. A 30 year old with back problems isn't a great move.

 
  On 25/08/2021 at 08:38, Little Goffy said:

 

Let's do a deal: If Melbourne win the premiership you have to get a tattoo of a cricket with Ben Brown's number 50 on it's back!

:laugh:

 

And the mfc logo.  Deal

  On 25/08/2021 at 08:41, Webber said:

Surgery is irrelevant if he’s rehabilitated and ready to go. Also, he can play back, forward, wing, he’s just a terrific footballer. Multiple premierships and we’d be getting him for peanuts, so would be crazy not to take him on if he’s keen and fit. 

Exactly 'Webber'...his foot skills alone would add enormously to the list and he gives so much versatility.

 
  On 25/08/2021 at 07:27, Demonland said:

We'd have a very old forward line.

Jack Gunston - 30

Tom McDonald - 29

Ben Brown - 29

When Tommo is back we do have the option to put Petty forward. But I agree our key position players are mostly on the wrong side of 29. Which is why I’m very strong on keeping Weideman. 


When we have to replace one of our current key forwards it needs to be someone better than Weid.

Terrific player but at his age you don't want to give up too much to get him.

Back injuries can be chronic as well. Would the Hawks do a third rounder for him?

  On 25/08/2021 at 07:50, ucanchoose said:

Can anybody name a 29 year old trade success story that won premierships after they've had multiple surgeries?    ........

 

Crickets....

 

It's just terrible business when we have spent the last 3 years being incredibly  savvy

Shaun Burgoyne?

 

it's the 2 back operations at his age that worry me the most

would need the richmond doctor's opinion first


  On 25/08/2021 at 09:57, The Jackson 6 said:

I’m not clear who he replaces in our current line-up? 

On the cheap maybe. Maybe.

Melksham?

  On 25/08/2021 at 08:41, Webber said:

Surgery is irrelevant if he’s rehabilitated and ready to go. Also, he can play back, forward, wing, he’s just a terrific footballer. Multiple premierships and we’d be getting him for peanuts, so would be crazy not to take him on if he’s keen and fit. 

 

Would we? I think Hawthorn will be looking to cash in on his last years of potentially decent footy. They’re not struggling to clear cap space.

Back surgery is intense. Not that ACL surgery is easy, but back surgery is different. And he's 30.

That aside, and assuming he's fully fit with no long term increased risk of injury, I'm not convinced this is the right fit.

Where would he play, and at whose expense? He's too good to be depth (i.e. he'd only go somewhere to be best 22), so he has to be a walk-up start in our 22, which means he has to be an upgrade on TMac/Brown, or Fritsch, or Spargo/ANB/Pickett.

If he costs us peanuts (salary wise, he won’t cost us anything in a trade as he’s a free agent), then isn’t he far better depth than Mitch Brown?

 

  On 25/08/2021 at 07:27, Bates Mate said:

For free in a preseason draft maybe, but will have to get in line behind Fritter and even Weid 

Maybe he’ll be seen as a short-term replacement for Weid? 


  On 25/08/2021 at 10:23, Mach5 said:

 

Would we? I think Hawthorn will be looking to cash in on his last years of potentially decent footy. They’re not struggling to clear cap space.

...but he wants out & Mitchell might not want him there. A Clarko man and paid out on some in regard to how he was booted.

If he's fit he would be an asset.

Swans landed Franklin after a flag and Richmond landed Lynch after theirs.
And we're looking at Gunston .... Please.
Aim abit forken higher.
Get some young hungry gun that wants to play for premierships.
Not some injured old crock looking to pad out his retirement.

 

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  On 25/08/2021 at 10:23, Mach5 said:

 

Would we? I think Hawthorn will be looking to cash in on his last years of potentially decent footy. They’re not struggling to clear cap space.

Yeah I agree, he did win their best and fairest last year

Would rather we find a way to bring Hogan home.

  On 25/08/2021 at 14:46, olisik said:

Would rather we find a way to bring Hogan home.

That ship has sailed 😅


Yeah… but nah… 

Can't see us getting him cheaply. 

He is contracted for 2022.  Won their BnF last year.  Hawks were rumoured to want a high first round pick for him from Collingwood last year. 

This year Hawks are looking to boost their draft hand and generally want top 25 picks.

Sure he has had injuries this year but doubt his trade value will be much lower than mid-2nd round.  That is not to say mfc won't do it.  

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Good player, still playing good footy when on the park. premiership experience, proven leader, 

Love it, straight swap for Sam Weideman, Hawks get a young developing key forward, we get an experienced Vet to help us now.

 

Played one game this year.  Two sets of surgery on his back.  30 years of age.  Still contracted until end 2022.

Why do people think Hawthorn is willing to let him go? If he was serviceable, they would be keeping him next year. 

Lewis, Hodge, Bruest were all useful in  young teams which needed leadership.  Now that those teams are contenders you don't need those types any more.

We don't need to be doing the Hawks any favours.

  On 25/08/2021 at 10:31, titan_uranus said:

Back surgery is intense. Not that ACL surgery is easy, but back surgery is different. And he's 30.

That aside, and assuming he's fully fit with no long term increased risk of injury, I'm not convinced this is the right fit.

Where would he play, and at whose expense? He's too good to be depth (i.e. he'd only go somewhere to be best 22), so he has to be a walk-up start in our 22, which means he has to be an upgrade on TMac/Brown, or Fritsch, or Spargo/ANB/Pickett.

Agree with this. Adding a gun small forward makes more sense from a fit perspective (i.e. Bolton, Cameron, Ryan, Butters, Rozee or Papley). The spots of Brown, TMac or Spargo would have to be the most at risk if we land Gunston.

ANB's role is different and plays more in the midfield. Pickett has explosive pace. Fritsch is our best forward. Jackson is a unicorn.

That said, a fit Gunston is a very flexible player because he is such a great kick and has been able to apply pressure. He can play back and wing also.

 


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