POSTGAME: Rd 18 vs Hawthorn

[Webber 10,476]

4 minutes ago, Nelo said:

we can’t play much worse than that

We don’t need to. That’ll do it. 

[Boots and all 1,000]

5 minutes ago, Better days ahead said:

When i saw Clayton with the hollywood handball over his head straight to the oppostion in the first quarter i thought here we go. 

 

Sets the tone every time!!!

[Demons11 7,032]

1 minute ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Our structure holds up against a game plan

We crumble under tackle pressure

The wet conditions suited the Hawks tackling game tonight and they were hungrier 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

1 minute ago, drdrake said:

We can't win the flag because we have to many players that can't kick.

Our midfield is good at getting the footy terrible at kicking it.

The worse think is most of us went into this game expecting this.

Not around ball ups they aren’t.

[picket fence 17,182]

3 minutes ago, Deesprate said:

Sorry but if you have beaten every top 8 side you have played you deserve to top the ladder. Full stop.

Not if u loose to the bottom 4 LACK OF RUTHLESSNESS

[rufus 1,162]

1 minute ago, Webber said:

I would’ve too if I was neutral. They’re half a team of VFL footballers, second from bottom, giving a brilliant account of themselves. We aren’t any of that. Do you think we deserved praise?

It's also why the free kicks go against us in games like this. When one team is an underdog and having a red hot crack while the highly fancied team is prancing around limiting contact and playing like it's an NBA all star game, it's human nature that the umpires also start looking after the opposition. Our players can just be so insipid that the broader football world just kind of like turning the screws on us at times.

[Watson11 2,241]

4 minutes ago, Nelo said:

I found a couple of positives from tonight. One, we can’t play much worse than that. Two, percentage shouldn’t play any part for the remainder of the season. 

Three. We put Hawthorn a game and percentage above North, so screwed their plan to draft Jason Horne.

[Brownie 5,981]

6 minutes ago, Swooper1987 said:

It's not a disaster in the context of the season but the signs aren't good really since the Collingwood game.  We've gone loss, bye, narrow win, loss, solid win v PA then draw where we probably deserved to lose.  I was really disappointed when a few blokes stopped and watched Gawn chase whoever it was in the third running into the punt road goals.  Gawny was stuffed but the bloke eventually fumbled and there was nobody to assist.  They eventually got a goal out of that forward thrust.  Shameful that the biggest and hardest working player in the team was the one doing the chasing while the Hollywood mids and others stopped to watch.  It's very disappointing but hopefully they get to play next week and redeem themselves.  And Sparrow should've played ahead of Vandenberg.  I can only think they were expecting conditions to be worse than they were.

That's about three games where we've selected players expecting a wet weather slog which never happened.

Same scenario with non selection of Ben Brown.

Strange

[Bang Bang Bang 5,826]

I always cringe when I see odds of $9.50 for Hawks to win and people on here talking about percentage and a “10 goal victory being a pass mark”. Clearly not enough people follow this team forensically. I wish I didn’t. 
 

The two points may prove to be very handy, but this team is taking months off our lives every time they serve this porridge up. 

 

 

[In Harmes Way 7,805]

How many frees did the umpires pay to Hawthorn inside forward 50? Jesus wept. It was unwatchable.

[Mr Steve 3,820]

They talked all week about how they play against teams out side the eight. Then went out and played the same way. Mental weakness. 

[Melb16 493]

Of the 5 games we’ve played against the bottom 4 teams, tonight was the first time we’ve been in front at half time.

Defensively we look horrible against poor sides when they don’t go down the line. They simply employ a game plan to counter our strengths and we have no answer but to just keep doing the same thing.

[OhMyDees 1,834]

[dazzledavey36 55,054]

60 tackles to 81 there way.

They wanted it more, whereas we thought it was going to happen.

[Dr.D 1,771]

Same [censored] different week!!

1. Understanding of momentum in a game. We are 1 goal away from it being a landslide midway through the 2nd. But no. We switch off and allow hawthorn and run on and to enter half time full of confidence. Dumb.

2. Goal kicking; a lack of respect for the severity of misses and losing all chances of momentum and scoreboard pressure.

3. Clearances: Still not good enough. How was the first 10 seconds of the last quarter! Hawks breakaway from the middle with disgusting ease and goal. You'd think our top 4 chances weren't on the line or something!

4. Kicking to dangerous spots inside 50m. Stop kicking it to the bloody pockets. 20metres out directly in front and put their defenders under real pressure. 

[The heart beats true 18,128]

1 minute ago, DubDee said:

Tough result but I am happy for Dr D. The doc would be wetting his pants with excitement over this result. No idea who he follows But

Nah, he’d be disappointed we didn’t lose. It’s not as ‘stimulating’ inside the gimp suit when it’s a draw.

[dees189227 12,394]

Yze has a bit of work to do with the midfield. We are just getting beaten in the centre

[DubDee 25,962]

Never seen May play a worse game. Needs to get his head right. 

Jackson, T Mac and Brown gave us SFA up front. We were crying out for some marks from our 58 inside 50s

[Sydee 4,452]

I’m disappointed but pleased Sportsbet paid out my line bet on Hawthorn +42.5 points 

The MFC are the best bet going when they go into a game as hot favourites 

I still struggle to see how we are top of ladder - this team just takes a holiday when they really should bury teams 

Hard to feel confident they can perform when it really matters - finals 

[BarnDee 287]

gutted by this   , this is a bad loss as far as im concerned, if i was to say what i think ide be banned from here 

[rufus 1,162]

7 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

I think our biggest issue at the moment is teams outside the 8 are just trying to take our game away from us and we have struggled a little with it.  The positive is the teams in the finals will look to play their own game against us and we have shown that our game is better than most if not all in the 8

Doesn't say a lot about the quality or desire of our players though does it. It's looking very much like the higher ranked teams have tried to play their own game and haven't applied the full on pressure to us, thus opening the door for us to play it on our terms. When lower teams apply pressure, our players look worse than ordinary.

In finals, just like in the NBA playoffs, everyone ups their defensive intensity. I can see another Perth 2018 on the cards when the finals come around.

[Tom Dyson 1,633]

The umps favoured hawthorn the whole night, and Clarkson has the temerity to sit there in his presser and blame the umps. 

Go suck a fat one you [censored]. 

[Return to Glory 8,443]

12 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

All of you people talking about top 4 and top 2. I've proven you wrong time and time again! this is now proof. We are now unlikely to make the top 4. You are torturing yourselves by continuing to talk about top 2 and top 4 and have NO RESPECT for just how little you can trust this club. 

SHAME ON EVERYONE WHO SAID I WAS NEGATIVE JUST FOR STATING I BELIEVED WE WOULD FINISH 5TH. Since my comment,  there has been numerous articles stating how we are at risk of losing that spot. And guess what, MORE ARE COMING!

LESSON: NEVER EVER doubt my knowledge of this football team. 

Merchant Banker

[titan_uranus 25,020]

Really have to work on Viney's role.

He's not the midfielder who should be streaming forward and delivering inside 50, because he consistently misses targets.

So why does it keep happening?

[Earl Hood 6,086]

9 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

The Hawks are mad for getting rid of Clarkson - this result came from the coaches box. He dismantled our game plan. The set shots from Kozzie and Gus were disgraceful. We need more like Spargo that have some footy nous and kicking skills.

Although it would be good if Spargo could kick further than 35m.