2 hours ago, america de cali said:

They are just working up to it. Anger management takes time.

True rjay. Except you have to actually be angry to have something to manage. 

Max is trying but anger the exactly wrong quality you need. It leads to poor decisions etc....

Why can't they be committed desperate confident focussed supportive tireless ruthless ambitious hard working. Those are qualities I'm interested in.

Can I suggest a change to the thread title to read "Demon Fans Angry At Yet Another Puff Piece".

8 minutes ago, kev martin said:

They are only words. I hope they cause some change. 

Spoiler alert  -  they won't.

Where’s your sense of humour Max? Just come out and say “ We Suck”, then if we miss finals it’s not just ‘talk’. 

Gonna be a long 9 days.

Why do people get so angry at these type of articles? It was captains day the other day, so they sit around and talk non-stop to journo's and get their photo's taken. The journo's then go off and write puff pieces about every club, not just ours. Most of the questions will be directed in a way that they know they can grab a headline or 2, and it seems like quiet a few on here have fallen for that hook line and sinker. Journalism/media these days is all about who can yell the loudest or make the most outlandish claims (McClure, Cornes etc.) or who can generate a headline that generates enough clicks. 

3 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said:

Why do people get so angry at these type of articles?

Because it's like watching an alcoholic. He swears he's off the drink, this time really off it. He's seen the damage it's caused. He regrets it all and swears it won't happen again. He's sorry he bashed the missus and terrified the kids. It's happened for the last time.

Next week he goes out, gets smashed, bashes the missus, terrifies the kids, and next morning says how sorry he is and THAT was the last time. That was really the last time. No more. He's had enough of hurting the people he loves. THAT was the last time. No more grog, ever. He's off it for good.

Next week ...

We're the battered wives and kids and it sticks in the craw to hear the alcoholic swear he's off it for good.

(Another parallel: we loves ya too much to leave ya!)

1 hour ago, binman said:

I'm more interested in the article that was linked in the gawny one that said:

'Fremantle’s depth will be put to the test immediately with four first-choice players to miss early stages of the season after a casualty-ridden pre-season derby clash with West Coast last weekend.

Big man Rory Lobb avoided a need for surgery on the right knee he injured in Sunday’s clash at Optus Stadium but will have to wear a brace for approximately six weeks.....

All-Australian forward Michael Walters, 30, suffered a hamstring injury and scans showed he would likely miss three to four weeks.

Youngsters Bailey Banfield (syndesmosis) and Mitch Crowden (calf), who were pushing for selection against Melbourne in round one, would also miss the early part of the season.'

Freo by 20 points?

I hope that our whole team plays on the edge of angry.  

How many times have we seen midgets bullying Max by hitting him all day.  How about get angry and fight back Max? Or maybe team mates protecting our own?  The only one i seen that really stands up for others on our team atm is May...and probably one of the few to give advice or a much needed bake to a team mate too.

Insipid performances are the opposite of playing angry, or even being slightly angry from previous failures.

The proof comes when the real stuff starts.   Are we actually going to get angry and uncompromising to play against, or just continue to go through the highs and lows and just expect it all comes together at some stage. 

Every game is a war to be won. If i see insipid performances or drinking of bathwater which leads to more insipid performances i will vomit.  Our team needs to turn up on a regular basis, have their head in the game, get involved in the game and stop putting in substandard performances.  Am sure we are all sick to death of it!

A thread where lots of people use words to say that words don't matter.

1 hour ago, sue said:

I really don't know what some people expect Gawn to say.  Of course it means little.  Given that he has to say something in this modern era, I'd like to see critical posters post some press releases here that are significantly better.   

How about this Sue?

The players are aware we have a problem winning games we are expected to win. Our performances last year in Cairns were unacceptable. With a finals position on the line against two sides below us on the ladder, we simply choked. Some fans have accused us of 'drinking our own bath water'. Based on those performances in crucial games, they are correct. We let ourselves down but most importantly, we disappointed our fans . . . again. And for that, I say, on behalf of the players, we're sorry. You, the fans, supporters and members are the lifeblood of the club and provide us with a lifestyle most people can only dream about. And we abused your trust, support and love. For that, on behalf of the players, I apologise. 

In 2021 we undertake to play a more accountable and disciplined style of game. This means further developing our individual strengths and minimising the influence our weaknesses have on the outcome of each game. For example, Jack Viney is committed to playing Aussie Rules each weekend, I'm gradually improving my goal kicking and hope to thread at least one per game this year and Maysie's target is to keep all the gorillas to two goals or less in each game he plays. All the players will be held accountable, both internally and externally, for their on field performances. To that end, Jack, Stephen and I will front the media each week, and on behalf of the players, answer for our performances as truthfully as possible.

Edited March 11, 20214 yr by Queanbeyan Demon
Typo

1 hour ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Because it's like watching an alcoholic. He swears he's off the drink, this time really off it. He's seen the damage it's caused. He regrets it all and swears it won't happen again. He's sorry he bashed the missus and terrified the kids. It's happened for the last time.

Next week he goes out, gets smashed, bashes the missus, terrifies the kids, and next morning says how sorry he is and THAT was the last time. That was really the last time. No more. He's had enough of hurting the people he loves. THAT was the last time. No more grog, ever. He's off it for good.

Next week ...

We're the battered wives and kids and it sticks in the craw to hear the alcoholic swear he's off it for good.

(Another parallel: we loves ya too much to leave ya!)

Makes us all Al-Anonics MR.

3 hours ago, poita said:

I love Max, but I really wish he would stay away from this kind of stuff. As one of the most senior and longest serving players on the list, he is more responsible than most for us underachieving over the past decade.

And why would he possibly want to drag us until the Lumumba mess?

Wow . . . just wow! How specifically is Max more responsible than most for us underachieving over the past decade? There's another poster on here, Anti-Saint, who is of a similar mindset. What am I missing?

1 hour ago, kev martin said:

Especially on Freo, being our next up game.

Hurt them on the scoreboard Dees.

Bring the pain, to the next game, then the next, and for the whole season.

Give your pain to every next team.

Then I will know that what they say, they really mean, and they will do something about it.

Do they want ultimate success badly enough, or is being on an AFL list good enough?

You’re in charge Max

Make sure the Players feel the same way. You are in the Chair 

1 hour ago, Red and Blue realist said:

Why do people get so angry at these type of articles? It was captains day the other day, so they sit around and talk non-stop to journo's and get their photo's taken. The journo's then go off and write puff pieces about every club, not just ours. Most of the questions will be directed in a way that they know they can grab a headline or 2, and it seems like quiet a few on here have fallen for that hook line and sinker. Journalism/media these days is all about who can yell the loudest or make the most outlandish claims (McClure, Cornes etc.) or who can generate a headline that generates enough clicks. 

There must be some truth to his statement. As is our anger for many seasons.

I want it turned into action and good results.

Though as many have pointed out, I may be dreaming! 

I reckon we've seen every emotion other than anger from this group over the last few years.

Viney and May possibly aside, the only thing you ever see from our players is either jokes and smiles or head down sad sacks who come back a day later full of promises again.

We get it, they have to say stuff, articles have to be written etc, but these words just ring so so empty to Dees fans.

 

1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

I reckon we've seen every emotion other than anger from this group over the last few years.

Viney and May possibly aside, the only thing you ever see from our players is either jokes and smiles or head down sad sacks who come back a day later full of promises again.

We get it, they have to say stuff, articles have to be written etc, but these words just ring so so empty to Dees fans.

 

Nev, we don’t always see eye to eye but completely agree here. 

Round 1 has got trailing by 30 at 3 qtr time only to mount a token comeback and lose by a goal written all over it...

1 hour ago, Red and Blue realist said:

Why do people get so angry at these type of articles

We get angry because we care. 

I want to believe Maxy but unfortunately the words ring hollow puff piece or no puff piece. 

Don’t look back in Anger ? ? 

1 hour ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

How about this Sue?

The players are aware we have a problem winning games we are expected to win. Our performances last year in Cairns were unacceptable. With a finals position on the line against two sides below us on the ladder, we simply choked. Some fans have accused us of 'drinking our own bath water'. Based on those performances in crucial games, they are correct. We let ourselves down but most importantly, we disappointed our fans . . . again. And for that, I say, on behalf of the players, we're sorry. You, the fans, supporters and members are the lifeblood of the club and provide us with a lifestyle most people can only dream about. And we abused your trust, support and love. For that, on behalf of the players, I apologise. 

In 2021 we undertake to play a more accountable and disciplined style of game. This means further developing our individual strengths and minimising the influence our weaknesses have on the outcome of each game. For example, Jack Viney is committed to playing Aussie Rules each weekend, I'm gradually improving my goal kicking and hope to thread at least one per game this year and Maysie's target is to keep all the gorillas to two goals or less in each game he plays. All the players will be held accountable, both internally and externally, for their on field performances. To that end, Jack, Stephen and I will front the media each week, and on behalf of the players, answer for our performances as truthfully as possible.

Can someone email this to max please.

4 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

Perhaps start with feeling ashamed - when the chips were down, the Demons failed to deliver.  It was in their own hands and they stuffed it up.  They should be angry with their attitude and application.  Hold each other to account for once.  Then get over it and play like you want to be there.

The Demons need to sniff the bowl of chopped onions. Clear the head, make very serious and repeated steps to ensure that poor teamwork, lax but well-paid secondary work ethics and questionable decision-making fade into oblivion rapidly. 

The last few years have been immense opportunities to claw into a final. They failed.

If it cannot be politely expected to be a coaching problem, then it is solely a player problem and yet, we have some of the best talent and team mixtures in the AFL.

Get on with it, boys. Become men of the field. 

 

Run both way lads....

Run both ways.