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Who thinks that Hawthorn will really relocate to Tasmania?, I think Jeff is just stalling hoping that the Tassie government renew their contract, the Tasmanian deal is what saved the Hawks from non existence.

 
2 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

Who thinks that Hawthorn will really relocate to Tasmania?, I think Jeff is just stalling hoping that the Tassie government renew their contract, the Tasmanian deal is what saved the Hawks from non existence.

Disagree 

The 85,000 members that have signed up Consistently lately are More likely the reason.

Tasmania supported that with members and Govt funding but it's just the same as saying our NT games majorly helped save us from debt. 

 

North Melbourne in Hobart. The Tassie kangaroos.


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56 minutes ago, 58er said:

Disagree 

The 85,000 members that have signed up Consistently lately are More likely the reason.

Tasmania supported that with members and Govt funding but it's just the same as saying our NT games majorly helped save us from debt. 

Right and that is why they still sell more home games then any other team in history, because there fine, I bet lots of those members are arm chair members, because their crowd numbers don't support those membership numbers.

1 hour ago, 58er said:

Disagree 

The 85,000 members that have signed up Consistently lately are More likely the reason.

Tasmania supported that with members and Govt funding but it's just the same as saying our NT games majorly helped save us from debt. 

Tassie gave them a huge financial boost and a home ground advantage that helped them get 4 flags. The premiership then led to the membership boost.

Jeff is likely just being Jeff. They can now sustain a strong Victorian base. Although they certainly don’t want to give up that sweet Tassie money and the home ground advantage. 

 
42 minutes ago, dl4e said:

North Melbourne in Hobart. The Tassie kangaroos.

This is the real debate. How will North survive without the Tasmanian subsidy which I assume in a non covid year is worth around $5M annually.

How will the debate be framed and who will be its protagonists. The problem is neither the AFL or North want to have the debate. Will the AFL call Tasmania's bluff and say it's staus quo or nothing.

There's a deal to be done but I think inertia will win in the end.

PS.. Kennett's stance is all about trying to get compo out of the AFL should his Tasmanian cash cow be slaughtered. Almost laughable in its lack of transparency.

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Hawthorn might do the ok afl we will play 11 home games in tassie and 11 away games in Melbourne with member access to these.


as for the dorks actually moving to tassie, not a snowflakes chance in hell

at best dorks might increase their involvement in tassie, but relocating....no way 

Let me know if you need help packing Jeff. 

The team that would rather die than amalgamate? Don't make me laugh, Jeff! The Tassie Govt are seriously contemplating pulling out on support of both Nth & Dawks deals with AFL. They have made it very clear, they want their own team. Tassie folk are prepared to turn their backs on AFL if they don't get a get date for entry to the elite comp. AFL involvement at the grass roots level has already taken a worrying dive, with junior numbers in BB and Soccer increasing rapidly... Asleep at the wheel, Gill... irrelevant, Jeff!

52 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

PS.. Kennett's stance is all about trying to get compo out of the AFL should his Tasmanian cash cow be slaughtered. Almost laughable in its lack of transparency.

100% this


I hope not. I truly want to like and support the Tassie team, but won't be able to if it's just the Dawks re-branded.

 

lt won't be happening any time soon. However we need a Tasmania in the competition   You can be looking at an AFL club relocating  and l can't see any team wanting to relocate.

Fitzroy supporters lost their team and it is not the same for them. l wouldn't like it happening to this great club. Tasmania will happen in time but IMO it won't just yet . Hawthorn or North certainly not relocating IMV.

Maybe they can bring in a Northern Territory Team and play the team that has a Bye and not for points if a Tassie team is included.

That way they can build a NT team and not throw it to the wolves each week. Give it time to mature before it is also included in the near future.  

It will then be truly recognised as the Australian Football League .

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Imagine if the AFL struck a deal with Tasmania to relocate us down there.

We'd have to change our nickname to "The Van Demons".  :blink:

18 hours ago, waynewussell said:

The Tassie Govt are seriously contemplating pulling out on support of both Nth & Dawks deals with AFL. They have made it very clear, they want their own team. Tassie folk are prepared to turn their backs on AFL if they don't get a get date for entry to the elite comp.

I think this is right. The Tas premier has said that their sports grants should go to Tassie-branded teams, be it basketball, netball, soccer, Aussie Rules, rather than to colonising teams from the mainland propping up their finances, which doesn't really do anything for Tassie sport except allow a few tragics to watch live AFL.

The Tas sport-loving public seem to tolerate the colonisers from the mainland, but  I can't see the greater Tassie community embracing a transplanted club unless it's totally rebranded as the Tassie Somethings, where "something" is not Hawks or Kangaroos, and doesn't come in brown/gold or blue/white.


Just imagine if The AFL spent all that GWS money in Tassie including early draft access and extras

They would be  a proper team and surely competetive

52 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

The Tas premier has said that their sports grants should go to Tassie-branded teams, be it basketball, netball, soccer, Aussie Rules, rather than to colonising teams from the mainland propping up their finances, which doesn't really do anything for Tassie sport except allow a few tragics to watch live AFL

Governments have been funding travelling circuses since Roman days. Nothing unusual about funding a visiting sporting event.

This is Tasmania trying to play wedge politics. Good on them but short of North (or less likely the Suns) relocating there's little financial appetite for expansion at present and probably won't be for the next ten years.

25 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Governments have been funding travelling circuses since Roman days. Nothing unusual about funding a visiting sporting event.

This is Tasmania trying to play wedge politics. Good on them but short of North (or less likely the Suns) relocating there's little financial appetite for expansion at present and probably won't be for the next ten years.

I think it's a simple case of Tassie saying they won't tolerate this half-pregnancy any more. And I agree the only way a Tassie team is going to happen is with a relocation, which seems unlikely.  A North or St K (or ... MFC???) would have to be in such dire straights that it's Tassie or bust.

 
23 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

I think it's a simple case of Tassie saying they won't tolerate this half-pregnancy any more. And I agree the only way a Tassie team is going to happen is with a relocation, which seems unlikely.  A North or St K (or ... MFC???) would have to be in such dire straights that it's Tassie or bust.

Of course they might shoot themselves in the foot and end up with nothing in Tassie. Playing brinkmanship can result in one side losing. I cannot see the AFL adding a team this decade. The talent pool is already stretched too far. 

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3 minutes ago, old dee said:

Of course they might shoot themselves and end up with nothing in Tassie. Playing brinkmanship can result in one side losing. I cannot see the AFL adding a team this decade. The talent pool is already stretched too far. 

..that's the truth.  Post Covid, we have 12 teams on AFL support.  Port, St.Kilda, North, GC, GWS all up to their ears in debt.  There is not the slightest chance the AFL will bankroll another team. 

Tassie's biggest chance is GC.  They have no supporters and operate in an area where no-one cares about any sport.  Rugby and basketball have failed there, AFL will be the same.  Just have to wait until Gil has gone, so that everyone can see the folly of throwing millions in an area with no market.  At least GWS is in a decent population base....


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