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10 minutes ago, The Jackson 6 said:

Goodwin and the club consciously got rid of him and it wasn’t just because he wanted to go home. Not going to happen.

Correct. The reasons he was traded by us, are the same reasons another trade by Freo is a possibility.

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5 minutes ago, Domgus Petrogan said:

He should have stayed in Victoria. Sure, he may have been fined but apparently wouldn't have to pay

Instead, if news.com.au can be believed, he now has a conviction against his name.

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From the ABC site:

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Mr Dobson applied for Hogan to be granted a spent conviction order, which would have meant the offence would not be recorded against him.

He said one of the reasons for the application was "problems looming in terms of Hogan's employment" and the prospect that he "might end up living out his life in a rugby state where he would never be known."

 

While I doubt the 'rugby state' reference indicates a likely new club for Hogan, I am puzzled why his conviction or not should be relevant to moving to NSW or QLD.    Reads like states can ban people from other states with convictions which is nonsense  Good luck going to the USA though.

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33 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

He should have stayed in Victoria. Sure, he may have been fined but apparently wouldn't have to pay

Instead, if news.com.au can be believed, he now has a conviction against his name.

So Colonwood would be a perfect destination then. 

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Posted (edited)

Gold!

"Mr Dobson (Hogan's lawyer) also said Hogan had been in lockdown for months and in that time had not been with a woman, prompting Magistrate Adam Hills-Wright to ask "he couldn't wait 13 extra days?""

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Now who do we take De Gonee, Hogan or someone from Adelaide.....hmmm


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Jesse Hogan back at the Dees for pick 62.  
Unfortunately Jesse has ongoing mental and physical issues that require high maintenance with specialists required. 
His body language and work ethic is priority number 1 to get him in the right mindset to compete.  
We may already have seen the best of Jesse.  He would be another project !! 

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What a sad end to one of most promising careers I can recall. 

Zero chance we would even consider him. Football is the least of his worries

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Posted
2 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Gold!

"Mr Dobson (Hogan's lawyer) also said Hogan had been in lockdown for months and in that time had not been with a woman, prompting Magistrate Adam Hills-Wright to ask "he couldn't wait 13 extra days?""

And in that time his contested marking improved markedly!

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He seems to spend more time fighting his inner demons than playing like a demon that we all know he can if he could control his head. 
Alas it wasn’t to be , shame, because he could’ve been something really special indeed. 

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I'm probably in a minority here but if Brown were to choose someone else as his desired club I would be quite ok with us luring Jesse back to us, as long he didn't cost us a lot. 

Say whatever you like about him but while he was in Melbourne and fit to play he performed to a high level most weeks. And really the biggest (most consistent) off-field distraction was always to do with when he would be going back to WA. If he came BACK to us surely that would put those questions questions to bed.

I've got zero doubts that he's got internal demons he's fighting, but is he actually better in WA? Seems like he's got worse looking from the outside in.

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Needs a year out of football.

Has been in AFL since the age of 17....needs a break

Always amazed that long term injury players hang around the club. Perfect opportunity with mentoring support to develop as a person


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56 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Needs a year out of football.

Has been in AFL since the age of 17....needs a break

Always amazed that long term injury players hang around the club. Perfect opportunity with mentoring support to develop as a person

Hindsight’s a beautiful thing but I think he should’ve stayed in WA until after he was 18. We could still draft him and perhaps assign him to a WAFL club for development while he might pop over to Melbourne every now and then for updates and the chance to meet other players and coaches. But I think plucking him out of his home state at such a young age wasn’t good for his development as a human. 

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Ahhh the joys of living in a social media “enhanced” world where players live inside a Fish bowl with the public scrutinising their every move...

Do you think Wayne Carey, Garry Abblet Snr and Swartz had no demons To deal with, and never indulged in their preferred coping mechanism.. or two? 
But they did ok on the field, you could even argue it helped them...

Jesse kicked 50+ with reduced games in the last season we made finals... has issues, yes.

Would have him back in a heartbeat.

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8 hours ago, Pates said:

 

I've got zero doubts that he's got internal demons he's fighting, but is he actually better in WA? Seems like he's got worse looking from the outside in.

There is the problem, we all look from outside in and don't know what is really going on. Those looking from inside out, find him too difficult and disruptive to a team game and culture.

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Never heard a word about him being a disruptive influence at all while he was with us. Liked to let his hair down now and again but jeez that hardly makes him disruptive. His body language was poor at times but you could say the same thing about Oliver. Clubs seem to want robots these days.

Fremantle have a poor record of managing players. Plus a new coach comes in this year with his own ideas. Tabernor comes good all of a sudden. He got injured last year and to me it looks like the club didn’t put proper support structure around him. Now all of a sudden we’re hearing how disruptive he is. Freo would be one of the last clubs in the AFL I would recommend a player move to.

Jesse will find a new home easily but I reckon the best place for him is the MFC.  HE was well liked here, produced good football and can fill a need. The only reason we traded him was because he wanted to head back to Perth and we needed the pick for May. And we thought TMac could play his position. Less said about that the better. My only concern would be the foot injury. He’s injured it a couple of times now so it’s a definite risk.

Subject to medical DD I would welcome him with open arms if he decided to come back.

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Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, PaulRB said:

...........

Jesse kicked 50+ with reduced games in the last season we made finals... has issues, yes.

Would have him back in a heartbeat.

Never happened.Hogan never kicked 50.

Why do people keep harping on about this? The most he ever kicked was 47 from 20 games. Career 90 games 170 goals @1.88  

Ben Brown by comparison 130 games 230 goals @ 2.2

 

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8 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Never happened.Hogan never kicked 50.

Why do people keep harping on about this? The most he ever kicked was 47 from 20 games.

 

Yeh but how about if you round it up to the nearest 0? Then it's 50. 

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