Jump to content

Jesse Hogan on the way out at Freo?


Bizzell Blitz

Recommended Posts

The club has JUST started to apply forward pressure required to reduce the ridiculous ease with which our opposition could waltz the ball out of our backline. Having someone like Hogan in this current team would take us backwards in this area.

I was sick of seeing him sook to the umpires, and fail to put on pressure when he didnt have the ball. 

His trade, where we originally looked like we got unders, has turned out to be good for the club. It hurt us initially, but Jesse has done nothing since he left. I really believe his heart isnt in it. The poor bloke has been through heaps off the field and i dont think we could turn him around.

If culture is worth anything, he probably isnt worth the risk.

 

Edited by ding
  • Like 4
  • Sad 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

38 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

We also got pick 23(?) In the deal, which I believe is Sparrow.

Thank you Jesse.

Yes, we took Sparrow  (ended up being pick 27 after compensation/academy picks).

We dominated this deal.  Of course the flipside is what we could have taken at pick 6.  But if Sparrow continues to become a very good player its daylight robbery, if it isn't already.

Fremantle took a player called Brett Bewley at pick 65 (became 59 after teams passed picks).  Just looked and hes already 25 so was mature age. No idea if he can play

Melbourne

In - Picks 6 and 23

Out - Jesse Hogan, pick 65

 

27 Tom Sparrow Melbourne South Adelaide SANFL Traded from Fremantle; received from Port Adelaide; received from St Kilda
Link to comment
Share on other sites

14 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Reminds me of Jeff Farmer. Was on the brink of becoming one of the all time great small forwards in the game. 

Jeff had said he wanted to be a 10-year player at Melbourne, and become a MFC life member ... then he got a new manager, and within two weeks suddenly harboured a life-long dream to go back to Perth. Like a miracle.

Edited by Mazer Rackham
Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, ding said:

His trade, where we originally looked like we got unders, has turned out to be good for the club. It hurt us initially, but Jesse has done nothing since he left. I really believe his heart insnt in it. The poor bloke has been through heaps off the field and i dont think we could turn him around.

Even when he was with us he looked like a bloke who preferred mucking around with his mates than do this thing he happened to be good at, namely, playing footy. I reckon he'd be more content playing at a lower level for the fun of it, and the after-match p*ss-up, where it's not for sheep stations and there is less scrutiny.

  • Like 1
  • Love 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Would probably end up at the Hawks with our other castoffs (Frawley, Scully, Frost). They love collecting former junior prodigies with unfulfilled talent due to injuries or other issues.

That philosophy has been a disaster for them.  Clarkson too arrogant for his own good in the end.

  • Like 1
  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites


13 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Buddy rolled one a few years ago SWYL!

There was a bit of “ wink wink nudge nudge” about that

I've heard that ships almost as big as the Titanic have gone missing in the Manor Moat Uncle, so ANYTHINGS possible. 

A big YES from me and if not already doing so would be making discreet enquiries to get him back!

  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

I won't keep banging on, don't want to hijack the thread, so I'll make this my last one.

He hasn't produced on the field for 2 season.

He was traded away with no hesitation by Melbourne so I don't understand where you're getting this welcome home vibe from (other than supporter romanticism). It's not up to Melbourne to do things for him, we're trying to be a successful footy club.

People are projecting things onto this situation that just aren't factual.

 

LNev I always regard your input highly but I have clicked like on many of those supporting.

I don't resile from that despite agreeing with all the points you have made.

However either yes or no would strongly  require full and open disclosure of the total decision making process.

We are unlikely to get that and so like you I don't think it's worth commenting further.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I loved Hogan as a Demon and the romantic side of me would love to see him back in red and blue... however the club were more than happy to move him on for a variety of reasons. It seems like it’s been the right move as he continues to have off field issues and injury issues. His best is likely well behind him.

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don’t believe that it’s possible for Jesse Hogan to return to being the 17 year old who walked into the club all those years ago or the 20 year old who won the NAB Rising Star or the 21 year old who was the club’s leading goal kicker for the second year in a row. There have been too many episodes in his career in the intervening years both at Melbourne then at Fremantle for him to come back. There’s a chance he could possibly come good somewhere else like at the Eagles or the Swans but he did his dash at Melbourne two years ago.

  • Like 7
Link to comment
Share on other sites


21 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

I don’t believe that it’s possible for Jesse Hogan to return to being the 17 year old who walked into the club all those years ago or the 20 year old who won the NAB Rising Star or the 21 year old who was the club’s leading goal kicker for the second year in a row. There have been too many episodes in his career in the intervening years both at Melbourne then at Fremantle for him to come back. There’s a chance he could possibly come good somewhere else like at the Eagles or the Swans but he did his dash at Melbourne two years ago.

Are you alluding to a particular incident, WJ? That's normally how a dash is done...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

We did the right thing by Jesse and I think if these issues didn't exist and he was playing good footy and one day decided to do a Trent Croad and decide to come back I think we would be no. 1 on the list. 

But the more time passes I just think this might be something that needs to be let go. The depression aside I feel the injury issues alone are just too big of a gamble and sadly for him I think his time in the game is going to be shorter than it could have been. Much love for the guy but as things currently stand it's a pass.

Edited by layzie
  • Like 3
  • Love 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

He had a really bad run in 2017 with his fathers death and getting cancer himself, He then had a horrible foot injury in 2018 and went home to be with family, choosing to be around his family which from the whispers I heard from friends in with the club was that he was really torn about leaving. He loved playing for the Dees and with that current squad.
When we traded him at the end of 2018 when he had a horrible foot injury (I think it was similar to Vandenbergs) we got SO MUCH for him. 

I don't think the environment back in WA has actually been ideal for him to succeed. It seems like fitness staff never got ontop of his injury, rushed him in and thats why he kept not performing at the level we saw.

Imagine Hogan at FF taking the number 1 defender, leaving Weed with number 2 defender and Jackson playing on the wing or half forward to stretch their defence and chopping Max out in the ruck.  
 
The players loved playing with him and look, I think we'd be fine without him.However if it comes up, it would be silly for the club not to consider it.

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

Are you alluding to a particular incident, WJ? That's normally how a dash is done...

No, not one in particular - just everything that’s happened with him. I’m not confident, if he fails with Fremantle,  that returning to the environment he wanted to leave in the first place will be to his benefit. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    2024 Player Reviews: #31 Bayley Fritsch

    Once again the club’s top goal scorer but he had a few uncharacteristic flat spots during the season and the club will be looking for much better from him in 2025. Date of Birth: 6 December 1996 Height: 188cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 149 Goals MFC 2024: 41 Career Total: 252 Brownlow Medal Votes: 4

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 8

    2024 Player Reviews: #18 Jake Melksham

    After sustaining a torn ACL in the final match of the 2023 season Jake added a bit to the attack late in the 2024 season upon his return. He has re-signed on to the Demons for 1 more season in 2025. Date of Birth: 12 August 1991 Height: 186cm Games MFC 2024: 8 Career Total: 229 Goals MFC 2024: 8 Career Total: 188

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    2024 Player Reviews: #3 Christian Salem

    The luckless Salem suffered a hamstring injury against the Lions early in the season and, after missing a number of games, he was never at his best. He was also inconvenienced by minor niggles later in the season. This was a blow for the club that sorely needed him to fill gaps in the midfield at times as well as to do his best work in defence. Date of Birth: 15 July 1995 Height: 184cm Games MFC 2024: 17 Career Total: 176 Goals MFC 2024: 1 Career Total: 26 Brownlow Meda

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 8

    2024 Player Reviews: #39 Koltyn Tholstrop

    The first round draft pick at #13 from twelve months ago the strongly built medium forward has had an impressive introduction to AFL football and is expected to spend more midfield moments as his career progresses. Date of Birth: 25 July 2005 Height: 186cm Games MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 10 Goals MFC 2024: 5 Career Total: 5 Games CDFC 2024: 7 Goals CDFC 2024: 4

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 6

    2024 Player Reviews: #42 Daniel Turner

    The move of “Disco” to a key forward post looks like bearing fruit. Turner has good hands, moves well and appears to be learning the forward craft well. Will be an interesting watch in 2025. Date of Birth: January 28, 2002 Height: 195cm Games MFC 2024: 15 Career Total: 18 Goals MFC 2024: 17 Career Total: 17 Games CDFC 2024: 1 Goals CDFC 2024:  1

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 15

    2024 Player Reviews: #8 Jake Lever

    The Demon’s key defender and backline leader had his share of injuries and niggles throughout the season which prevented him from performing at his peak.  Date of Birth: 5 March 1996 Height: 195cm Games MFC 2024: 18 Career Total: 178 Goals MFC 2024: 1 Career Total: 5

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 1

    2024 Player Reviews: #13 Clayton Oliver

    Lack of preparation after a problematic preseason prevented Oliver from reaching the high standards set before last year’s hamstring woes. He carried injury right through the back half of the season and was controversially involved in a potential move during the trade period that was ultimately shut down by the club. Date of Birth:  22 July 1997 Height:  189cm Games MFC 2024:  21 Career Total: 183 Goals MFC 2024: 3 Career Total: 54 Brownlow Medal Votes: 5

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 20

    BLOODY BLUES by Meggs

    The conclusion to Narrm’s home and away season was the inevitable let down by the bloody Blues  who meekly capitulated to the Bombers.   The 2024 season fixture handicapped the Demons chances from the get-go with Port Adelaide, Brisbane and Essendon advantaged with enough gimme games to ensure a tough road to the finals, especially after a slew of early season injuries to star players cost wins and percentage.     As we strode confidently through the gates of Prin

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 3

    2024 Player Reviews: #5 Christian Petracca

    Melbourne’s most important player who dominated the first half of the season until his untimely injury in the Kings Birthday clash put an end to his season. At the time, he was on his way to many personal honours and the club in strong finals contention. When the season did end for Melbourne and Petracca was slowly recovering, he was engulfed in controversy about a possible move of clubs amid claims about his treatment by the club in the immediate aftermath of his injury. Date of Birth: 4 J

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 21
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...