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THE RUN HOME 2020

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14 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Adelaide Oval?

Traeger Park?

We struggled at Metricon vs the Dogs. Not sure of its dimensions but if it's wide, we probably won't want to play there if there are narrower grounds available.

This is a brilliant idea if crowds in Brisbane are limited. Good call TU. Low humidity and conditons if at night.

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    10 hours ago, deanox said:

    We don't always have the best support in the NT with crowds often seeming to lean towards Adelaide and others, but I hope that if we nominate an Alice Springs final, that the whole state gets in behind us.

    I actually hope we do too. Its probably the only time Alice will ever see an AFL final,  it would be an amazing gesture. 

    Might not be available because it doesn't have goal line video technology. Of course, it could be added.

    In all seriousness, given the AFL's need to cut costs, I can't see a final being played in the Alice because of the associated travel costs and the lower ground capacity.

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    Has the AFL actually said clubs get to choose where they will play a 'home' final?   Seems unlikely to me given all the other constraints.

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    26 minutes ago, sue said:

    Has the AFL actually said clubs get to choose where they will play a 'home' final?   Seems unlikely to me given all the other constraints.

    iirc the AFL were considering nominating several grounds from which the 'Home' club can choose. 

    The ones I recall being mentioned are Gabba, Adelaide Oval and Optus Stadium which cover the teams likely to be in the Top 4 and play later finals.

    Gabba is a no-brainer.  Adelaide Oval works because the government is allowing AFL teams in on a FIFO bases or stay over (as we did for the Adel/North games).  The stickler as always is Optus if the WA gov't keeps up its full 14 day quarantine rules.  McGowan wants games at Optus but doesn't seem prepared to be flexible.  

    Whether the AFL will be flexible enough to let two teams in the bottom 8 of the ladder and based in SE Qld go to Adelaide Oval or Optus is debatable given the $ cost. 

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    There seems to be a push to have all finals return to the traditional full quarters ie 20 min+ time on.

    There doesn't seem to be a good reason not to as their won't be a condensed schedule and minimal travel.

    I'm certainly for it and think it works in our favour (if we make it) as we are quite fit.  I haven't seen any of our players put hands on knees or crouch down looking tired at the end of a game this year.

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    13 hours ago, deanox said:

    We don't always have the best support in the NT with crowds often seeming to lean towards Adelaide and others, but I hope that if we nominate an Alice Springs final, that the whole state gets in behind us.

    I actually hope we do too. Its probably the only time Alice will ever see an AFL final,  it would be an amazing gesture. 

    I've been to quite a number of Darwin games over the years and we're always outnumbered by opposition supporters (even against Fremantle wtf?) Playing up here was a clear cash-grab rather than an area for growth: more than half of the (small) population (with limited international immigration, especially as to target markets) comes from down south or from the west and brought their teams with them, while much of the local indigenous population has connections to two or three clubs in particular (I might be little off base here, but my father managed a sports club with the Rioli and Long clans as prominent members). But my perception of Alice is that our support is pretty strong outside of the Adelaide-based teams.

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    On 8/30/2020 at 9:30 PM, DubDee said:

    did the predictor, have us winning 3 and dropping the GWS game.  Play the Saints in the first final!

    can't see anyone getting in on 9 wins 

    
                        W  L  D
 1. Port Adelaide      14  3  0  131.2%
 2. Brisbane Lions     14  3  0  119.6%
 3. West Coast         13  4  0  121.5%
 4. Richmond           12  4  1  126.0%
 5. Geelong            12  5  0  131.0%
 6. Melbourne          10  7  0  110.6%
 7. St Kilda           10  7  0  110.6%
 8. GWS                10  7  0  104.4%
 9. Collingwood         9  7  1  105.8%
10. Western Bulldogs    9  8  0  102.4%
11. Carlton             8  9  0   97.2%
12. Gold Coast          6 10  1   98.6%
13. Essendon            6 10  1   87.2%
14. Fremantle           6 11  0   88.7%
15. Hawthorn            5 12  0   85.8%
16. Sydney              4 13  0   80.0%
17. North Melbourne     3 14  0   74.2%
18. Adelaide            0 17  0   59.5%

     

    19 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    So, if it pans out like this, as the higher ranked team we'll host our first final at the MCG, right?

    ...So if it pans out like this, how do you determine who is the higher rank side when we finish on identical win/loss points and % as St Kilda?

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    5 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

    There are some big ifs and buts, but if the cards fell right, I'd love to play WC in an elimination final and bundle them out.  Hate those [censored].

    Yes indeed. Same goes for Geelong

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    53 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

    ...So if it pans out like this, how do you determine who is the higher rank side when we finish on identical win/loss points and % as St Kilda?

    There is a step-by-step protocol in place but I can't recall exactly what it is. I think there's a coin-flip involved at the end. But head-to-head and alphabetical we're good on. 

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    3 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

    There seems to be a push to have all finals return to the traditional full quarters ie 20 min+ time on.

    There doesn't seem to be a good reason not to as their won't be a condensed schedule and minimal travel.

    I'm certainly for it and think it works in our favour (if we make it) as we are quite fit.  I haven't seen any of our players put hands on knees or crouch down looking tired at the end of a game this year.

    Rules changing on the fly again? What else is new. What other sport in the world plays the whole season with 20% less game time then completely moves the 'goal posts' again come finals time? Another example of something from the AFL that is fundamentally flawed.

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    1 hour ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

     

    ...So if it pans out like this, how do you determine who is the higher rank side when we finish on identical win/loss points and % as St Kilda?

    Interesting question. From Reddit

    As we beat the Saints we end up on top (I assume there is another rule that says % is only taken to two decimal places.)

    (iv) Where two or more Clubs at the completion of the Home and Away Matches have accumulated the same Premiership Points and have the same percentage, the following procedure shall apply:
    (A) the position of the tied Clubs shall be adjusted by accumulating the Premiership Points awarded to the relevant Clubs as a result of the Home and Away Matches played between them and placing the Club with the highest accumulated Premiership Points, first as between them;
    (B) where the Premiership Points accumulated by the relevant Clubs remain equal, the position of the tied Clubs shall be adjusted by calculating each such Club’s percentage based on the proportion of points scored for and against each such Club from the Home and Away Matches between them and placing the Club with the highest percentage, first as between them; and
    (C) where two or more Clubs still remain tied, the position of the Clubs shall be adjusted by lot conducted and drawn by the General Manager - Football Operations so that any Club drawn ahead of any other Club shall be placed ahead of such other Club or Clubs    .

    Edited by Diamond_Jim

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    Geez, all this talk of home finals...... How about we just actually finish in the top 8 for starters! 

    Next thing you know we'll be sending out emails for finals tickets.

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    The top 8 is shaping up to be one of the most exciting and close finishes in some time with many teams in contention and a few important 8 point games. There are always upsets each round but I've tried to map out where the Dees and others might land by round 18 ..

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    Important for us to keep winning and try to finish as high as possible (likely 6th or 7th). By finishing 8th, as it stands we'll cop WCE - possibly in Perth?...and we know how well that ended up last time. Finishing 6th or 7th and playing who that does looks a lot softer than finishing 8th and getting the worst of either Richmond/Geelong/Brisbane/WCE. 

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    If by chance we were to get a "home" final I would love it to be played in Alice Springs. I get that we don't always have the larger supporter base there but imagine us sending a final their way, surely they would really love us for that and it would be down to our marketing team to get the word out there to show support for us.

    Otherwise I would like us to choose Adelaide Oval, we just really seem to play it well.

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    8 hours ago, Pates said:

    If by chance we were to get a "home" final I would love it to be played in Alice Springs. I get that we don't always have the larger supporter base there but imagine us sending a final their way, surely they would really love us for that and it would be down to our marketing team to get the word out there to show support for us.

    Otherwise I would like us to choose Adelaide Oval, we just really seem to play it well.

    skinnier grounds suit us as it helps our zone

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    Dees simply must win 3 out of last 4. The win over the Saints was crucial. It’s the destiny in our own hands now. Giants are the danger team imo as they have such talent that they could win all 4 games left. 

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    10 hours ago, Pates said:

    If by chance we were to get a "home" final I would love it to be played in Alice Springs. I get that we don't always have the larger supporter base there but imagine us sending a final their way, surely they would really love us for that and it would be down to our marketing team to get the word out there to show support for us.

    Otherwise I would like us to choose Adelaide Oval, we just really seem to play it well.

    Perhaps we could spin it as a thank you to the Alice for saving "our" season.

    Worked for Queensland

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    57 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    Perhaps we could spin it as a thank you to the Alice for saving "our" season.

    Worked for Queensland

    Im concerned that we will most likely play west coast in perth. Doh.

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    On 8/31/2020 at 11:26 PM, deanox said:

    We don't always have the best support in the NT with crowds often seeming to lean towards Adelaide and others, but I hope that if we nominate an Alice Springs final, that the whole state gets in behind us.

    I actually hope we do too. Its probably the only time Alice will ever see an AFL final,  it would be an amazing gesture. 

    We can't nominate Alice Its either Gabba or zmetricon depending how many games are in Brisbane and when 

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    After tonight this is a pipedream !!!!

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    On 9/1/2020 at 2:28 PM, Hell Bent said:

    Geez, all this talk of home finals...... How about we just actually finish in the top 8 for starters! 

    Next thing you know we'll be sending out emails for finals tickets.

    How's that home final looking??.... Have we locked in a venue yet? 

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